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My comment was more along the lines of ‘fool me once, shame on you...fool me twice...’. And it was proven (or assumed) that Pace never really fooled anyone but himself with Trubisky. With Eli and this potential sneaking around, I’m wary of what may come from it.

For some reason, this line seems eerily familiar to me (especially if you change one name). Where have I seen this before? https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/heres-the-fake-name-mitch-trubisky-used-to-keep-his-dinner-with-the-bears-a-secret/

Ewwwww...

I absolutely love this article! Myself a Toyota Tundra guy wishes they had a QB comparable to that. Rugged and will last forever.

I’m expanding my horizons with QBs I’d like to see as potential FAs or trades beyond Carr. Those being Dalton, McCarron or even Alex Smith (if he can prove health wise he’s capable). I don’t think all hope is lost should the team not find an adequate draft prospect. They should at least consider one in the later rounds; like 3-4.

Oh yeah...that’s cool!

I had an odd feeling I was either being messed with by an Admin or hacked...or coronavirus had gotten me.

What the? I did not write that. Not even where the null was. I had actually made a comment about no QBs but realized you were only talking about 2nd round so I deleted it. I’ll even disagree with myself and say no to getting rid of Eddie Jackson. How weird.

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Not any worse than a guy from FLORIDA International Univ. “poor mechanics” and “under throws” I believe you said? As far as strong arms; remember that guy Cutler? Strong arms don’t always equate to great success...not in Chicago. In this instance we may want to consider ‘body of work’ than a bad day at the combine. Trubisky isn’t known for long ball accuracy but between the two, Fromm has more starter (and successful) history. And his “poor” combine could translate to a lower pick like 3rd or 4th round which is good.

Still have to think IF the Bears draft a QB they need to look at Fromm. Granted he’s not completely polished but if you apply the Bill Parcells model of a good QB he checks many boxes. And has a 38-6 record as the Georgia QB... in the SEC. and he’s familiar with Wims and Ridley. Side by side with Trubiksy they have compatible statistics with Trubiksy edging Fromm with a 157 QB rating to Fromm’s 156. Of course Fromm has 43 starts (to Trubiksys 13) three bowl games (Trubiksys zero) and ~8,000 yards passing to ~4,000 for Mitch. https://beargoggleson.com/2020/03/01/chicago-bears-combine-jake-fromm/

Absolutely worth it!!!

I’m sorry, Nate Sudfeld? What? Isn’t the idea for a QB trade to get someone who competes with Trubiksy, not be worse than Daniel?

You got my vote!

But Leno will be starting next year so... ?

As an aside, my fav TE prospect Thaddeus Moss, just announced he’d be having surgery on a broken foot. Bummer. And of note; Missouri TE Albert Okwuegbunam ran the fastest 40 for a true TE at 4.49 (and he’s 258# - yikes!!) With Claypool potentially playing TE and a few other bright spots I’m fairly confident the Bears will be able to find a good TE in the draft if they choose to go that route. Paying for someone like Hooper might be too costly. https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2020/2/27/21156683/2020-nfl-combine-results-wide-receiver-tight-end

Not sure I totally agree. For one, when you get rid of both Patterson and Cohen you lose pretty much your starting return specialists. And although Patterson is not Hester he still can give our team favorable field position whenever he’s out there returning. He’s been doing it this long (3 time pro bowler at it) I think he’s still got one or two more years left in him. And I still think Nagy is underutilizing him in the offense. I’d like to see him develop more plays with him in the mix. Second, trading players away because the Patriots do it isn’t a great practice. For one, you said it yourself the Bears aren’t a perennially great team. And they’re not in a true rebuild mode (yet) where I think trying to trade your good players for value makes more sense. I’d agree that trading Floyd and Cohen would make sense right now. Because neither is contributing enough in their respective positions that their losses would be as noticed. Trading Patterson right now (IMHO) not so much.

I’m with Mad. His ‘flash’ in the pan has certainly flamed out...or at least seems to be headed that way. Hes not on the same level as a Hester or Deion when it comes to returning. They both had side to side elusiveness and speed where Cohen is just straight line speed, which diminishes quickly as you get older.

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Upon further review, found this article on Floyd’s marketability. It makes a compelling case to try and keep him. https://beargoggleson.com/2020/01/07/chicago-bears-finding-a-market-for-leonard-floyd/

I went with the trade option and would say 1a is cut, like what you outlined. Still intrigued by the concept of having JPL as an end rusher. But like you said, there are players like Beasley out there too who could easily outproduce Floyd. Speaking of cast offs...heard rumors that Fangio might be interested in bringing Amukamara over to help his D out. What's to say he might not be interested in adding Floyd as a rotational player? Not sure how the price tag would affect that but they are familiar with one another.

I'm going with option C (1/2 in). I think they bring in true competition and either keep him as a starter for year 5 or backup, depending how year 4 pan out.

Thanks both AZ and Adam for explaining. The idea of waiting until May and knowing you can still get out of it in year 5 makes sense. I just was curious by the phraseology of “5th year option” and whether you had to commit or not. And if you did, why do it prior to year 4? Your explanation of Pace’s tact with regards to Mitch and his options also makes a lot of sense. AZs point of Carr as a possibility still rings true to me too. Especially if the Raiders are able to convince Brady to come to them. Many dominoes will fall if he makes that move. I still think regardless, the Bears need to make a play for Carr if they can.

He said he would still be calling plays. To be honest I’m still not sure adding Lazor and DeFillipio will be all that beneficial. IMHO I’m not overly impressed with either of them. They were both fired from their previous jobs; DeFlip from his last two.

I guess I don’t really understand the fifth year option when you say it doesn’t have to be decided on until May. I assume that has something to do with the season calendar but why would you want to say whether you’d commit to his fifth year before going into his ‘make or break’ 4th year? If you commit to that 5th year too early then aren’t you stuck with him that 5th year? Regardless of how he does this coming year? ?