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I listen to the Score everyday during football season ,lots of football talk. Steve Rosenbloom repeated a great idea. Cant stand Rosenbloom or Bernstien , they both are arrogant, think there always right and negative Nellys. Trade Fields for Tomlin. (see Clab Williams thread). Its been suggested the owner wants a fresh start in Pittsburgh with a new coach. Tomlin has a great winning record but hasnt won a playoff gme since 2017. Tomlin is a coach Bears fans would love. Who knows if there is any legs to that rumor but its nice to think about.
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Does anyone think Tomlin or Belichick are going to lose to get a higher pick? They just both won this week , hell no. Winning creates a winning culture, much more important than a couple higher spots in the draft. That is what losing cultures do, we are trying to change that. Whether we change QBs or not, the rest of the players that are going to be here and they need to learn how to win. There is a 90% chance we are picking #1, that is the prize, not pick 7 instead of pick 9.
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I love Justin Fields and think he is going to be a good QB. I woke up listening to the SCORE this morning and the sports DJ , a former Chicago guy, now working in Cleveland has made the best case for our QB situation. 4042-26-5. That is a good season for a QB. Alex Smith was a good QB and KC drafted Mahomes anyways. He sat him for a yr and then Mahomes got his shot. Poles came from KC. No matter how you want to look at it Justin , he is not going to be Joe Burrows, Williams has the chance to do that. You dont have to hate Justin Fields like half the fan base to think another QB can be better. The DJ used Baker Mayfield as an example, Cleveland drafted him to be the guy, he didnt make it but is playing well in TB. He thinks Justin will end up being better but isnt the QB that will take you to multile SBs. Justin will take us to 10 wins next yr but not going to the SB. Justin will get better but then you have to pay him 50 mil and the rest of the roster starts disappearing. The days of a great D and a good running game taking us to the SB are over. As you accept Justin , you just look around at your other options and try to tear them down to prove your point. Are we doing that with Williams? Or maybe Poles thinks its Maye or Daniels? I think he is in the best position to figure that out over us. I was using the argument that you have to develop him for a yr or 2 and then play him. Burrows took Cinn to a SB in his second yr and we have a better roster than they did that yr. I am listening to the draft Caleb Williams talk and still love Justin Fields. You can do both. If we get a 2nd round pick for Justin, Poles will trade him. Poles may talk someone into a first, he's lucky like that. If its only a 3rd, he may bring him back for one yr because he is cheap at 6 mil. I can see the scenario where we are winnng next yr with Justin and he gets hurt for a few games and Caleb plays and never gives up his job. Trade Justin at the trade deadline and then get a 1 for him. We should want Justin to win with his special talent (trade value), then we make the playoffs and live happily ever after. So if he takes Williams with the first pick, my best case scenario is we get Bowers with our 2nd pick. If that doesnt work there are a couple other special WRs in the draft. Nabers- Odunze. Poles brings in a center and another saftey in FA. Another DL would be great. If he takes a DL with the second pick. Newton, Dallas Turner, there are 8 WRs in the draft that would upgrade our WR room. He could trade back with the second pick , pick up a second round, and still get Bralen Trice or Jared Verse. Our first 2 picks have to be difference makers , weapon or pass rusher. LT is a thought but Jones is improved enough that I dont think he is redrafing positions, (Wright and Jones). There are a lot of guys in FA to get but , Poles is only giving out 1 big contract ( cap health), and that may be JJ. If thats the case, he may be bringing back Justin Jones and a few current rostered players. Another WR, Mooney wont be here if Justin is gone, he's just not paying one a big contract. I am a gambler at heart and sticking with 2 pair (Fields) is okay but Im going for a royal flush . ( Williams). If Poles thinks that Maye or Daniels, so be it.
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To early to think about that, teams change a lot with FA and the draft, maybe trades.
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On that list there are 7 teams that probably try to get a QB, so our trade value goes up with the first pick, if we get lucky enough to get it. If we win one more game no way we have a shot at Daniels if we fall back past 7. No way Poles is taking the 4th or 5th best QB with our other pick. He will load the roster and try to find a prospect in the second or third round. (trade back)
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Week 17 Official Game Thread ATL @ CHI, SUN 12/31, 12PM, CBS, CHI -3 O/U 38
Stinger226 replied to adam's topic in Bearstalk
Neither one of us are good teams, so you have a lack of consistency. We are good against the rush , it was 93 even with a good rushing QB today. That will force them to throw. Atlanta had 177 yards on the ground today, if we hold under 100 , they will have a hard time beating us with the pass. Only 6 passes out of 23 went to WRs today. Everything will be throw underneath and you will have game like today. Fields will need to win it for us.