Stinger226

We finally made it. if its one in a million, I'm all there.

I would like think that hug means something but it doesn't. He will do what's best for the Bears, but it may be to bring him back.

What I find is its amazing how you have argued for both sides of Justin Fields and have made compelling arguments . Im not sure how you feel? You are probably right on Poles have already made a decision on his future but dont think the coaches are all in on a decision thru poor coaching. I hope for us to win and Justin to do well but know he is flawed. For me I have seen progress but it may not be enough to stay here. On saying that I worry that they pick the Bryce Young and not Stroud when he makes that decision. I think the progress of Justin may be more valuable for wins next year than a raw rookie. Poles needs to win next year and starting over may not achieve that. What ever way he goes will determine him getting fired or a contract extension, I am glad I don't have to to make that decision , I'm wrong a lot.

What a coincidence , I was thinking the same thing. All of this started when I posted a Tim Lewis video about him praising Justin on an analyze of one of his games. you have for along time let everyone know you dont like Fields so I mentioned you probably wouldnt like the video. Then you blow up on the thought I attacked your fandom. That's when the the loser, ignorant, blind statements started flying. You have literally called Justin a turd , terrible on so many occasions I lost count. You can post all of these deep evaluations of his play all you want but I will support him as long as he is our QB. Several times I have mentioned how bad he played and if he doesnt improve I will be out on him but you say Im this ignorant Kool-Aid drinking fan that worships him. I have no problem with your opinion but your constant attacks and name calling doesnt sit very well. If anyone else on here disagrees with you and you say you have no problem with different opinions as you try to convince everyone that your opinion are so righteous. I want us to win and Justin to succeed, I get he isnt perfect and has issues but all your comments are anti Fields. Then you posting( you want the team to lose) lost me on trying to have a conversation with you. I asked you to lets just stop responding to each other and of course you ignore me. Not you want to kick my ass. You are one hosed up dude, I ask you again to let's stop . We dont like each other I can live with that so stop with your attacks. I have disagreements with other people on here , no one goes to name callings and loses their mind because I say favorable things about Justin.

I did mention after your last hissy fit , I offered a peace treaty , that we just dont respond to any of our posts but of course you ignored that but now you just wont engage . What a great idea. 7:32-- 12/2/2023 you arent engaging anymore.

I absolutely never made that statement. So how do I go back and find it when i never said it. You are right that would be a very time consuming project. If you want I do have written down the posts where you called me a moron, ignorant , a loser, ect. If you want me to post your remarks, I already did the research. All of these remarks are because I dont see Fields as a turd and dont have your opinion. But now ,as you say to other members on here, that you have no problem with different opinions. Your best statement I seen on these threads, was in in the( Week 12 thread- page 4-last post) where I quote (Bears win we all lose) that was after Fields threw a game winning TD.

I cant find anywhere on here that someone said ( that Fields doesnt hold the ball too long, and doesnt have a problem pulling the trigger .). My whole counterpoint about Fields is he has shown growth on some of his weaknesses, and we have 5 games left to see him improve. Its a big grey area of good and bad, He does some things well and somethings bad. He absolutely needs to improve on getting the ball out quicker but there has been times that he did that. Consistency is the most important aspect about getting better. I keep getting the impression you think he never has which isnt true. Play calling and an inconsistent OL play have affected his performance. No where have I ever said he doesnt hold some responsibility on his bad play. The difference between you and me is, I think he can improve, you do not. Many factors come into play on whether we drat a rookie to take over at QB. If Carolina wins a couple games, the #1 pick will no longer be a topic of Williams or Maye. Poles said a QB would have to blow him away to draft at the top of the draft. If its Williams or Maye, I would prefer Maye, Williams not playing well against better coopetition, his fumbling issue (same as Justin) and his attitude . (only going to play for 3 teams and being emotional on the sidelines after a loss). Williams seems more of a maverick instead of staying in the pocket. (same as Justin). Yes he sees the field better but they say he is 6' and 211, smallish IMO . the combine will correct that information. Maye is 6'4" 229 lbs. Has more disciple staying in the pocket and sees the field well. Both have strong arms. There are several other options at QB of which I like Jayden Daniels the best. Poles will do a much more complex evaluation than any of us fans can do. If he thinks the franchise QB is in this draft and moves on from Justin, I will totally support that. I dont think we should just draft a QB for change sake.

Not in any particular order: 3T, edge, swing T, OC, FS, WR, TE, QB prospect

Jones is a clear bust but not sure you can say that on Tyler just yet. Some take time to develop.

When he threw 16 completions in a row, I didn't realize those were all broken plays. I get he lacks consistency but to say he can't do something is a little far fetched.

We have all of this conversation and if we don't get either of the first 2 picks, totally a different story.

I question his conservative play sometimes on O .Not sure If Getsy has full control of play calling or if he gets involved. With all the losses, his team hasn't quit. Imagine being worse in the league in run defense to be first in one year, that's amazing. I think if he wins 3 or more games, he will end up staying.

If they bring someone else in , it wont be someone that wants to change the defense to a 3-4. It will find regression in building a defense and then have to redo the defense again. they will bring in a like mind.

The NFL draft is April 25th. They will have work done on the draft and if they dont get there guy, then they can pick up his 5th year. If they trade Fields it will during the draft. Then if they dont will surely give him the option. They could target a QB , not with the first pick and if they dont get the QB prospect they want. just bring Justin back.

They have a cheap LT, DBs once Jackson is gone . ( If JJ) doesnt come back. They have the room to keep him if need be.

Those are all good names. Walker is one of our better lineman and I think he should stay. Jones, Green and Yannick are gone. We cant gut the DL totally that will be regression.

My history has rock and roll littered all over it.

It's OK to have different opinions, we just have different views on what may be best for the Bears. It's not about being right or wrong, Poles is the ultimate say on who will be and I will support what he decides, we are just not finished with the season yet, and I view my team with hope.

I get it, he doesn't do everything right but a handful of plays doesn't define any QB. He will never be Burrows or Mahomes Not sure he will be as good as Curt Cousins as seeing the field but that doesn't mean he doesn't have value. Several QBs have not looked good against the Vikings pressure defense, they are ranked 8th in the league. Also the first winning team we beat in their house. As several former QBs have stated , they see improvement, I am not sure he is growing fast enough to save his job. You did a great job of proving what you are trying to show but the short coming he has are improving. to go along with his good traits. Maybe in your mind , he needs to be a top 5 QB, but he is not a typical QB that can still have growth happening. When condemning Justin they want to say but he lost all those games. It's a team sport, it started out with a bad roster and inconsistent coaching. Of course some of those loses are on him but the key question is can he get better? I think he can but it may not be enough to save his job. The second question is there a better QB prospect than can be a top 5 QB ? That is what GMs get raises for and fired for. It still has to play out. This whole scenario is very complex, it's just not as simple as he didn't make his first read or see an open WR in a certain situation. If Poles moves on, just like Justin is our QB, I will support the new QB with as much passion as I did this one. It's not the blind Neanderthal just supporting any team player, I see things you do, it's just the season isn't over yet. Chase put the tape out but he did not end up with the same opinion you have, why is that?

Pick any player in the league and you can do a highlight film and find enough tape to do a lowlight film. Fields isn't there but to ignore good plays isn't realistic. There is such a thing as players get better. Fans have tons of opinions, but former QBs opinions carry more weight. They have been there and done that. Are they all idiots claiming Fields is getting better? I think they know what to look for , everyone is entitled to their opinions.

We could only pray for that.

I dont think I said he said (he's the man) just that he is playing better.

Adam is a stats guy and a big IF we win out, its a math thing. . If we end up with 7 wins I would be over joyed, that is what progress is. Even last year I always rooted for us to when every game, after we would lose, I would say at least we have a chance at the first pick. I never root for us to lose. I can always find something positive to say about our chances, but the Bears seem to always find stupid reasons why they lose. hard to not think about that.