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I think Bagent gets 2 more games and then you get evaluate Fields 8 more games. Fields has higher upside if he succeeds plus Bagent isnt going anywhere. You have to see if Fields can get better.

Depends if someone makes an offer you cant refuse. BUT he's injured right now. Getting a 3rd or lower for him wont be worth it.

I think more realistically would be to trade Justin during the draft, more likely to have more value.

Like or dislike Fields , there is merit on both sides of that argument but one game on Bagent just isn't enough of tape to judge. The best case scenario is Bagent looks good in a win and then Justin balls out the rest of the season. Then trade Justin for a 1 st rounder and load the team with blue chip players and roll with Bagent next year and draft a QB prospect in mid rounds. You will still have a few first round picks in 2025 if Bagent doesn't work out.

I think if he wasn't hurt and was able to the play the 2 games well, A high pick was up for discussion but then we might be thinking about keeping him. It would have to be a team that could make the playoffs in need of a QB. Jets? SF? Prudy hasn't been looking good lately and they have a coach that could do a offense to suit Fields. Washington, with reasons you stated, and NE. Belichick has the ego to think he could turn Fields around and the need. The only way you get a #1 is if two teams run up the cost. The big stumbling block is he has to get paid in 2025 and the need to win now. If you're going to get a Chase Young back , I doubt they offer a # 1 back also. Would the new owner want make a splash? Maybe

A couple of years ago i would have loved to have Sean Payton, this year doesnt say much for his legacy. Hopefully Poles and Warren figure out the best Coach to bring in. Does anyone think Flus would be fired and have the character to accept the DC job here? I think he is good at that.

The trend is he will be gone but he can change that trend if he balls out the rest of the way.(highly doubtful) He does have some talent, his 2 good games this year looked promising but he has to continue that. The potential of taking a good QB and since we will win some games it has to be Panthers playing bad. That is out of our control. I believe some of his bad can be contributed to bad play calling and a hurt OL. A great QB should overcome that. What if he's just okay? Lot of just okay QBs in the NFL. Cousins, Goff, Prescott, Carr, Geno Smith, and Stafford. Some of them have won in spite of their talent. I think Poles will evaluate the situation and make the right decision.

Im all in if there was a Andrew Luck clone in the draft but that has not proven to be the case yet. Some experts calling (Williams or Maye) being generational QBs doesnt mean its true. When Mahomes came out, I dont remember any experts calling him generational. He got drafted by a good coach with a good team and sat for a year to learn. He became a great QB. If he was drafted by the Bears at the time, he would never be as good as he is right now. Lots of things have to be in place for a QB to achieve greatness but it also includes good coaching and development. I dont think the right coach is here yet. I think maybe Poles creating magic by trading our high pick and building the team first then maybe drafting a JJ MaCarthy and develop him for a yr. i think lots of choices on the table and maybe sticking with Fields with Bagent backing him up may be the best choice but that still remains to be seen. Adding MHJ, a LT, Bowers, Verse or Turner may be better for our future. By the end of the year the picture may be more clear.

I've been a Bears fan since the late 1960s. Pretty well been losers except some Ditka yrs and when Lovie was here. I dont care who is leading the team , its about winning. The Fields debate is very simple, he has the rest of the year to prove himself or be gone. Im going to root for him as long as he is here. He has bad tape and some good tape , hopefully he gets better. Poles doesnt owe him anything, play well or he will replace him and I am good with that. I see what you see but think he can improve. Why write him off when he isnt gone yet. It only benefits the team if he does well.

I still think the main purpose of this year is to see if Fields is the guy. I don't think that evaluation is done yet with 10 games to play. He will get the bulk of games to show us what he can be. What we do know is we have a good backup. So if we move on from Justin your idea of letting having him run the show as a rookie learns. I could accept that for a year knowing we are building a good team around a QB. If he wins the QB job in that time so be it.

This is what building a team looks like, it gets better the longer it goes. We have the pothole of lots of injuries that has slowed the process. I guess we are lucky we havent had full season injuries but maybe Braxton Jones is that case . I hope not, a good Oline is the key to us having a consistent offense. When we do win , people say it was a bad team. We actually have a lot of bad teams on our schedule. Chargers looked like a hill to big to climb before the season started, they are 2-4. Saints are 3-4, Panthers havent won a game yet , then we play the lions, they just lost 38-6 to a team with a running QB. We are not a good team yet so we will lose as many games as we win but we are going to win some more games. Sadly that MIGHT save our head coach. What is the win total that will save his job? 5 more?

Yes but the team is already built much easier to succeed.

Finding competent QBs is so hard to do . High picks have a higher % of hits but also a higher bust rate. Jalen Hurts was a second round pick. Just saying to build the team first and put a QB in a better situation.

I agree with that, always throwing rookies to the wolves may not be the best way to do it. Because they were drafted high, doesnt mean they are ready for prime time./ With someone like Burrows it worked except now he is beat up because they didnt build the Oline first. No matter who is playing QB build the team first then get your QB. Its rarely a quick fix.

Washington has to decide who they are going to sign Young or Sweat. No way they sign both, their free agents next year. We don't need to trade anything. That would be close to 400 mil invested in their DL with the need for a QB.

Maybe he can become an Alex Smith type of QB but I doubt you ever win because of him . Build a good team and play to his strengths, then you can win some games. He's just not ever going to be an Aaron Rodgers or Joe Burrows. It's nice to have a competitive # 2.

Fields has some bad traits and we will probably have a new QB next year but I would like to see them have the same kind of game plan for him. Our strength is our running game and we are starting to play defense. Quit trying to make him something he's not. I guarantee you if he was in Baltimore, he would look different because Harbaugh does the offense to fit a players strength, not try to make him Aaron Rodgers. Lamar Jackson is similar to Justin but Justin can throw a better deep ball than him. He may never be a top 10 QB but he definitely can be used better than he has been with Getsy. Roll the pocket, RPOs, and play action. It's not 4 level chess.

Actually with a couple of plays outcome different we could be talking about winning 4 in a row. I think the tank narrative will be on hold for awhile.

Just seen this posted on X,. I could buy into that. Hear me out MHJ, DJ Moore, Mooney/Tyler Scott Brock Bowers & Kmet Braxton-Davis-Van Pran-Jenkins-Wright RoJo, Herbert, Rookie RB Fields & Bagent Then on defense Chase Young -Dexter -Pickens -Ngakue Sanborn, Edwards, Edmunds JJ, ‘Rique/Terell Smith, KG6 Brisker, Micah Hyde

We could easily be talking about winning 3 games in a row right now. A couple of plays back in the Denver game and it could be 4 in a row. We are getting better. The Fields injury could be a blessing in disguise. Not only are we seeing a competent backup but Justin was watching this game to. Coaches can tell you all day to get the ball out quicker but he got to watch how successful that can be. Fields is going to play better going forward. He is a very intelligent QB , he just learned something today. Injured players are starting to come back. Flus may not be a good head coach but the defense has been much better since he started calling the defensive plays. I've been doing mock drafts and dreaming of the top 2 picks. That may be a little pre mature.

JJ earned a 15 mil a yr contract today.

Actually they need to blitz more, he is getting to much time in the pocket.

I think they are just not asking to much from Bagent, if Peterman gets hammered if doesnt affect everything. Just put him in positive situations helps.

The only reason we can play like this because we are playing defense. Good play calling helps and the fact we can run the ball.

The kid can throw on the run, roll him out to avoid Crosby.