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This is a top 100 draft list by some respected football people. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10098827-2024-nfl-draft-big-board-br-nfl-scouting-depts-latest-top-100-player-rankings

I thought Field's Vikings game was a negative except for the final drive and won the game. We have been asking for that all season. On his report card, -1 for that game. Every game has good and bad, his bad outweighed his last good. Poles may already have his mind made up , but if that is the case , who is he franchise QB? If he's Williams, that makes me worried. Against good competition, he hasn't looked good. He has piled up stats but they were always behind , empty calories. Plus he is 2" shorter and 20 lbs less. If you applied that this year, that's Bryce Young. Would you be okay if we drafted Bryce Young? Of course you have to give 3-4 to accurately judge a draft pick. The last 5 games are important for what risk factor is lower , A rookie QB or Field's improvement. No matter how the rest of the season turns out, I still think doubling down is the best scenario. You e!iminate the risk of going somewhere else and being good. Now if you trade back and recover another 2 nd, 1st round next year , you still have 2 1st first round picks and the rest of your draft to improve your roster which helps a rookie or Justin. Decide who is your QB other than the top two, draft him with your 2nd first or if you think he can be gotten in the second. Take a QB , sit behind Fields and he will get his chance to play. If Fields fails you have another shot at the ring with a drafted QB to work with. All of your choices have risks, I think the 2 QB choice gives the Bears the best chance to succeed.

I agree that his worst trait is TOs, if that continues, the rest of the stats wont matter. Agree with the 1-1 report card.

I dont think he has to win out but definitely where we can see the growth. The team is healthy but its largely affected by the coaches, something that can make or break that growth. Its all about the last 6 games.

You are always the voice of reason. Well at least sometimes.

Im not trying make excuses. Lets say we drafted Mahomes, no way he finds the success he found in KC if he were here .He had a great coach, a built team , sat for a year to learn the NFL. Here he would probably be a good QB but not the icon everyone compares to. The other circumstances matter in the development of a QB. Is Fields where you want him to be , no, but you cant dismiss a 4 TD - 334 yards game either. With all QBs its about consistent play, Fields is not there, I am not blind to that but we have 6 games to see if he grows or is lacking. Players can get better as they get more experience, Tua is a good example, he didnt get better until they gave him Hill and a better running game. Plus they hired McDaniel. This is his second year and all of a sudden, Tua is playing exceptional well. Poles needs to win next year, what option gives him a better chance ? I think 2 QBs rather than take a risk with either choice. My problem is Williams or Maye generational? I dont think so but I trust Poles to figure it out.

If we stopped today, Fields is considered a failure. BUT we still have 6 games to go , if you add 3 (Detroit ) games and 3 (Minny) games . then where does the upside land? I dont count his first year of a year under Nagy, no first team reps, and then got thrown in the fire with a 9 sack game. Totally a wasted year. So I look at a depleted roster last year with a first year coaching staff that finally adapted to his skill set and had some success. Now this year, he started bad with an injured OL, a OC forcing him to sit in the pocket. Then several games pop that show progress . Denver, Washington, and Detroit. How he plays the last 6 games will determine his progress. The key to this progress will be a new coaching staff and probably MHJ next year. Now how much better will he be next year? we dont know but also dont know the prospects of a new rookie QB. So what is better for the team next year a better Fields or a rookie QB. It could be a Bryce Young or CJ Stroud, the problem is there is risk in that option to, you have seen progress in Fields. The last great QB taken was Burrows in 2020. Tua developed in his 4th yr. , Justin Hebert, good but still a loser, Jorden Love ???. then Hurts picked at 53. 4 years into their development Burrows always hurt, Hurts and Tua playing well . In 221 Lawerence is still developing and everyone else has failed, only Fields is still a starter. In 2022 out of 8 QBs taken , only a 5th round pick and last pick in the draft have shown success. Howell and Purdy, one year wonders so far. the point is who is the right QB? That answer could make you get you fired or hired. What I think we should do is keep Fields ( in case he finally develops) and draft a prospect not one of the first 2 picks. That way you double down with 2 shots at the brass ring. Having 2 QBs didnt seem to hurt when the Packers had Farve and Rodgers sitting. there are several prospects in the draft this year. Its not Williams-Maye or bust.

I listened to the SCORE all day and the afternoon crew proposed a either or for the QB situation. They didnt go into depth but keep it simple. You have 2 choices: A: Trade Fields and draft Williams, you have a losing record for 2 yrs but in his 3rd yr he is the 5-10 best QB in the league. B: You go with Fields and have a winning record for the next 2 yrs but he only become the 10-15 QB in the league but you get to draft MHJ. To answer that honestly, there are several variables I would need to know but in this context, I would take B At this moment in time Goff is in 5th and Lawrence is 10. I used the NFL passing position which is based on yards. If you went by actuality Mahomes ,Burrow, Hurts, Allen ,Jackson, Herbert in some sense of order. 10 to 15 would be Cousins, Goff, Wilson, Watkins, Purdy. I used a CBS poll for reference.

go bears , we're getting better.

He's making 4.5 mil this year with bonus. (OTC) The top 5 kickers are over 5 mil a year. He's 15th in the league in pay now. AYS. Give him a 3 yr fully guarantee at 5 mil a yr?

I tried to put forth a peace treaty but you dont seem to be interested.

I found where the top pick in 2024 draft gets 8 mil a yr , day 1 but cant find where the money is in future drafts. That's 2 mil more than Fields 4 th year salary. ( if i read all of that right. ) Does anyone have that info?

That's the website that I do all my mocking on and some scenarios are unrealistic. They adjust as the season moves forward but there will be several QBs taken in the first round, they only have 3 now I think. Maybe Nix makes it there also.

What do you call when someone starts name calling? No where did I bad mouth you until you started the bullcrap. Stop responding on my posts and ill quit responding to yours. If someone else posts something and I respond , stop thinking it's about you and everything will be fine.

Been saying the same thing lately. If the last 6 games are lacking, move on. If there is still hope, keep him and draft a prospect. It would suck to cut him loose and choose a top 2 QB and it not work out then Justin becomes who he has the talent to be. Another thing I saw was in 2025, if it's a QB drafted at #1, the pay goes up to 21 mil a year. I need to check if that's true but someone posted that information on X. I know X isn't the most reliable source for information.

Just stay away from name calling and I have no problem with your opinions. Your last fit erupted when I posted opinions of ex QBs that praised Fields play against Detroit. Trying to make the point, im not the only one that likes some of Fields play. It's okay to compliment someone when they do good , I say it when he plays bad and that doesn't mean I want him as the QB next year. If the season stopped now, im with you but we have 6 games left. I want to see if he can improve.

I want to throw Todd Monken into the ring. OC at Baltimore. Played football in Galesburg and has ties to the Chicago area. He's making Lamar Jackson look like an all pro. His brother coached at West Chicago high school.

I think Braxton is going to be our LT going forward. There is better talent in the first round but why add players you already have developing on the team already.

I would hate to be Poles this off season making the right decisions on which way to go with HC and QB. They're several options and something to say for every option. What I do know is he will have a new center, a swing T, a FS, another edge and 3T.

Thanks for not making me dizzy this time. I'm all in on #4. MHJ, OL, DL, and Beck.

Whether here or not, I liked this.

Adam, kudos for being the stats guy. Never thought about that.

Everything you said is realistic. So at worst 2nd and our pick 8-10. Still nets us a couple blue chip players.

Probably doesnt help but he had fumbling issues before he injury.

Knock Flus all you want as a head coach but going from worst run defense last year to top in the league is a huge turnabout. Poles gets kudos for adding more bodies to get where we are at. We are seeing more pressure on the QB and now the TOs are starting to pop. We are another 3T and edge away from a dominate defense. Jackson isnt even playing well, color him gone. Getting a new FS will be a key this offseason.