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We have 4 capable bodies in the RB room. They are going to see what they have before they add someone. .

I don't think he's getting fired just because you want him to.

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I do too but the information they give has value. I I read and watch a ton of stuff to form my opinion. I don't think anyone has a Bible on football evaluation. Some pundits that watches every bite of tape of a player has a better perspective than my highlight films and a few games. The poll is just a pushback on desert boy because he constantly dismisses them because they don't agree with him. I was never serious about the poll

Poles stuck to a plan and got some extra assets to add to the roster. I would have loved Skattebo but after getting assets to turn around and give them away to grab a specific player was good judgement. They estimate how the draft falls and adjust. Getting Monongai in the 7th will prove to be a great bargain. If you watch his tape, he has quickness but not long speed. He was 4th the nation in broken tackles. A violent runner. In 2024 Rutgers had no passing offense and stacked the box in every game and he still finished 2 nd in the league in rushing.

The last month before the draft is lying season. You can't take anything any team says as Truth. Poles holds his cards close. No one has given me a reason to believe that someone that has a leak of bears information actually has a source. I think most people start rumors and speculate. Poles obviously showed he was drafting Caleb, no secrets. He said he was getting an upgrade at center. Easy to put together that was Dalman. No one had the Thuney or Jackson trade information. I didn't see anyone suggest we were taking Loveland over Warren. A few picked Loveland in mocks but it was because Warren was gone.

This is a on going stupid conversation. Adam , how do I do poll to see if members think Bearfan or Dan Jeremiah, Dane Brugler, ect have more trusted opinions on player evaluations. Bearfan doesn't like that I inject other names in forming my opinion. I guarantee if I told everyone that I was smarter than known ( experts that spend all year evaluating players) no one would bother reading my posts.

I say negative things sometimes. I'm speaking to a general overview of a person's responses. The majority of mine are positive. No one would conclude I'm a( look at the bad .). Pick someone on here and look at the comments in numbers, it will tell you what side of the spectrum they belong. Mostly negative outlooks or like me mainly positive. I was just making an observation on Adam, he goes both ways.

I expect this year to be different from last year plus we have the coach that put that offense in the position to flourish. We don't know what to expect from any of our WRs, TEs, or RBs with Johnson pulling the trigger. I'm optimistic it's going to go well . I wasn't comparing one player to another player, just the overview of the offense.

That could happen but with great coaches, upgraded roster and a 5 star QB, you think we are going to have losing seasons going forward? That's the only way he's getting fired.

Yes hard to speak to actions we don't know anything about. Newman also mentioned he came in for a 30 visit that no one reported. That in itself is odd if they tried to hide those things . Pre draft visits doesn't mean we draft them or not but the year before had 4 of 5 draftees having visits. So it's just something to look at. They met with Loveland at the pro day and don't know if he came here or not. They didn't expect Burden to be there so they didn't have a reason to previsit. Since we didn't get any indication who they wanted or didn't want, easy to speculate on anything.

I didn't like who or when either. We just don't know if they screwed up or not. I do like the 1st 4 picks and Monongai. As contributors early in the year.

I was referring to the overall numbers of players Caleb has with quality traits. And it's an opinion. You disagree, it's okay. We don't have Gibbs but that doesn't mean we can't have an effective running game. Williams has speed that is unique to the league but we have ( projection) 3 quality WRs and 2 quality TEs and ( I could be wrong about this) a better QB.

You just keep it up, I was responding to Adam and you have to throw your bullshit into the conversation that has nothing to do about football.

That's inherently the problem, one pundit puts it out there and everyone jumps on it like it's true. We will never know but , in the past, if Poles wanted someone he would trade around to get him. Last year the war room video shows him being nervous about Rome not being there and wanted to trade up and Cunningham talked him out of it. Poles doesn't leak information, ever. This draft proves that, you were the only one that had a name we drafted, Burden. Everyone was thinking we might take Warren at 10 , bingo Loveland. no one knows for sure but we didn't trade up. Poles would have did a Pace move and given up a ton if he really wanted him.

No that's just you being you. You always say ( I don't mean it to sound like an insult ) right before you insult me. I have accepted your insults a long time ago. When I give my opinion I don't have the ego to insult people's intelligentence by saying my view of a player is better than well respected football pundits. Other people bring the same people up when talking about players but I'm drunk because you keep repeating to nausea on a point but I don't understand. You are not the only person on this thread. Other people are not going to pay attention to my posts if I don't support them with experts opinions that they respect. I don't care if you do. Banks was the 3rd T taken in a weak LT draft. The point of my talking about him was always , I didn't think the bears are taking him. A lot of my posts aren't always constructed well because being 12 hours different in time, Im looking at stuff in the middle of the night when I go to the bathroom. My brain isn't functioning quite well in brief comment moments. I told you ( I don't like you) was just being honest. Your response was ( I don't dislike you) is bullshit. I will say your insults are much better now than the ( you're a pedophile ) because I live in Thailand during the winter.

I'll take that. I like this thread better when you're around. You put up a lot of content. One day you're Peter positive and another day Nikki negative. I think one player ( have no idea who) becomes Caleb's favorite target. I think Kmet and Burden have more contributions. They will have the least talented DBs on them so will be open more.

We easily have more firepower than Lions had last year on an offense that scored 70 TDs. If Caleb is up to the task, he should be closer to 5000 than 4000 with 30+ TDs. Johnson said the offense will run thru Caleb but a running game will complent it. Let me be the first to say Monangai will end up a fan favorite. Because of disappointment on a well known name and as a late round pick, he is being dismissed. I'm not. I heard some people use Deboo Samuel as a comparison to Luther Burden that averaged 50 carries a year. We have plenty of ammunition to have a good running game.

Rating drafts this time a year are totally worthless but it's a fan thing and sports journalists exercise. They literally picked no one i liked. I hope they did their job well.

We need to look at the overall off-season to see what Poles has accomplished this year. Got the best coach on the market and spent good money on assistants. Added to both lines with quality additions. Added contracts for Gordon and Jackson who were on last years. The draft gave us 4 quality players in the first 4 picks. 2 potential all pro types and 2 first year contributors. The rest of the draft gave us high risk high upside players. Dane Brugler has the most complete draft guide on the market. Well respected in football circles. We ended up with 4 top 100 prospects. Loveland -11, Burden-27, Turner -56, Trapilo -79 He had mentions of all our draft picks on his draft guide. I thought they were obscure but people were aware of them. Hiopolote 35th LB Zak Frasier 23rd CB Newman 22nd OG Monangai 20th RB. I think this were high ceiling high risk type picks. It's going to be 2 years before we can start rating this draft. Lots of people saying Monangai is a dark horse good RB that fits what the bears are looking for. We have a front row seat to a winning season whether fans think it still has problems or not. The off-season is not over yet, now rumors of Nick Chubb. It never stops. Enjoy the ride.

The Banks argument is mute, he wasn't available. When I mention a football pundit, you don't like that because I should think for myself. I combine everything I see and read to form an opinion. I get the impression you think your opinion is because you're great at looking at tape. Then on several occasions you referred to draft buzz ratings and what Phil and his dad said. That's not any different than what I do. Your opinion is a composite of everything you learn about a player. Same same

It's still just an opinion, don't get what you don't understand? Anything I see doesn't prove a conclusion. Anything you think is exactly the same thought process. It's just opinions.

I think in any draft you have a plan and back up plan. Most fans and journalists would be happy with Ersery at 39 and Kaleb Johnson at 41. I think they planned on trading back in a deep draft. Waiting until the the 4 th round wasn't getting you another 2nd round pick. Burden pick popped up and they couldn't pass it up. He literally could be the best WR in the draft. So that left 41 to trade back . I think Trapilo was next inline if Ersery was gone or they liked him better. He's a RT that will get the chance to try LT in the NFL. I'm guessing here but they next targeted Cam Skattebo in the 4th. He got taken so they got more picks and had Kyle Monangai as their next choice knowing he would be there late. This is not the year one player puts them over the top. They had certain players they wanted so they stuck to a plan. Their draft board isn't put together with what media and fans thought was the best players. They actually have their own scouting department. Belicheck said once if you pick who the fans want you will one day end up in the stands with them. ( Don't remember the quote exactly)

Imagine a DC trying to cover Burden, DJ Moore, Rome plus Kmet and Loveland. Someone is wide open every play. Now does Caleb find that player is the question.

I think he makes the roster and DA uses him n blitzing situations.