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After you get by Goff, Rodgers and Brees, who are on the team, then who? Wilson is the only other one to come to mind.

Actually if he improves that much, I would have to say we would have 2 pro bowl OLBs and probably made it to the SB.

I noticed he didnt either, the post was not meant to condemn anyone, just showing that with NFL standards we are at the top even though we dont seem to go deep very much.

5 Pro bowlers. Hicks Jackson Mack Fuller Cohen In addition to the five voted onto the roster, seven players were named alternates: Mitchell Trubisky, Roquan Smith, Trey Burton, Danny Trevathan, Cody Whitehair, Leonard Floyd and Charles Leno Jr.

I am not sure it was you but some remarks were made about us not throwing downfield in the game. I am not trying to find stats to make or break an argument about how good MT is. Out of the top ten in this stat we are 4th with %, so even though it does not sound good, it is compared to the rest of the league. KC has the best % with 44%. I was just making a point that we are high in the league of downfield throws.

MT had a nice safe game but didnt throw downfield. I just seen a stat where we are 5th in the league with 20+ plays on the year. 68 with 35% completion margin. So much for complaining about that.

Remember a couple of those games were with Chase at QB, so you can throw those out as an example. I think Nagy attacks other teams weaknesses and different players are called upon to show up. I think MT had a bad game and then this week did not throw down field so Miller number wasnt called as much.

That would be the best case scenario. Hopefully this team feels communal in their conquest to be better and not to many teams chase them, they want to be here. He is not worth 13 million now, but might be if he keeps improving. With the big money contracts we have on the team, we need some cheap contracts to keep this team together. Coward? RT next year. If Callahan ends up getting a big contract offer somewhere else. We got 4 DBs on our PS and hopefully someone steps up. McManis is playing well but at 30 can not count on him to be our future at that position. If would be nice to get Amos back but anything more than 4-5 a year will be out of reach. The problem is we have no depth at S. That is why seeing Bush play is a good spot to get a good reading on his improvement.

here is the Bears locker room celebration. You think they like each other? Their going much farther. www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNFNmYjK5J8

Floyd is here through 2019 and then they can pick up the option year.

A few game notes: Floyd is starting to become one of the better players on this D. He is all over the place, Since he got the cast off, he has 4 sacks, 1 interception for a TD and plays the run exceptionally. MT was calm and consistent, his running skills are amazing and keeps drives alive. One of the reasons for this run is the fact we have good luck with injuries, the best in the league for lost starter games.

I heard on the SCORE that Jackson has a ankle sprain and said its no big deal. I say he doesnt play the next two weeks and gets ready for the playoffs.

Finally a game where everybody is happy even with all flaws. Enjoy the ride their is no guarantee we get this far every year no matter how bright our future looks. The Vikings and Jaguars were coming off of great seasons and look at them this year.

The reason I became a Bears fan was in my teens watching Sayers and Butkus and the asshole neighbor Packer fan. Cohen isnt Sayers, but a very good player and is the most important weapon on the field. Dont get me wrong, A-ROB is a #1 and we have good skill players, but he makes all DC know where is on the field. He makes the rest of the offense go. Very important to this offense.

All of this was suppose to be next years results. Since we have come this far, puck it, might as well make a SB run.

I know when these gadget plays fail it makes Nagy look bad but Nagy's play calling has given life to this offense and a few misses isn't going to be a big deal. It will come in to play that ones of these type of plays might lose us a game but some of those type of plays have won us games to. He is way ahead of the curve on those fluffy plays. MT was quite back in the groove, not great but consistent and no TOs. My only complaint(we won) is he is using Mizzell to much, I dont get it. Cohen and Howard both are much better players.

Next year we have 26 million if we just cut Sims. Enough money to bring back Amos and Callahan. I would say Long comes back but they will have someone in line to take his pace because of his injury history. Along the line we have Sowell, Coward, and Willie Beavers to take Massies place. They are all signed for next year(Beavers is on the PS). With Long back we still have need a backup which may be Wizzman comes back but that would be cheap. Also Dejoin Allen is on the PS, he may be a starter after next year for Long. I think they are grooming him to possibly be a starter, I heard they like him but needed to put on weight and get stronger. We also need to resign Lynch for a backup which will have a low salary. I think next year that Nall could get boosted to take Howards place and they trade him at the draft for a low round pick.(we dont have a 6th, that may get it done) The draft will get us some needed depth at S and OL, and maybe another OLB. They could also grab a RB or CB, although we have 4 CBs on the PS plus Tolliver, so the backups may come from that group.

I would say he should be playing well at that time and 23 would be a cheap price for a quality QB.

AZ if they pick up MTs 5th year option we get him for one more year. I tried to find the cost of which that would be. Do you know what that would be? 2017 23 $465,000 $465,000 $4,813,625 $0 $0 $0 $5,278,625 3.2% 2018 24 $892,238 $1,784,656 $4,813,625 $892,328 $0 $0 $6,598,281 3.7% $23,753,811 ($17,155,530) 2019 25 $152,156 $3,104,312 $4,813,625 $1,552,156 $0 $0 $7,917,937 4.2% $17,155,530 ($9,237,593) 2020 26 $2,211,984 $4,423,968 $4,813,625 $2,211,984 $0 $0 $9,237,593 4.6% $9,237,593 $0 Total $3,721,378 $19,254,500 $4,656,468 $0 $0 $29,032,436

I think the problem is their are some positions you have to have cheap options when the big contract kicks in for Mack. We have Coward behind Massie,, so that would be an easy transition but little depth behind Calalhan and Amos. Hopefully we can get favorable contracts from them going forward, I suspect they will want to stay here.

I think this is a best choice to replace. He has played as well as anyone at slot corner all year but will be doable overall. Better than Prince, Fuller, or Jackson getting injured.Probably even Amos considering we have no depth at S. We have signed Marcus Williams to replace him on the roster but will definitely see McManis starting until further notice. Other options are Tolliver.

thank you, remember I am not the one that started this thread going, just added my opinion just like you and everybody else. There is two ways to look at things in life, some people look at something to find fault and some people look at things to feel good about.

Bill, MT is being developed. Since we have a dominate defense, it seems like now MT is expected to be good every game. Developing a QB does not work that way. Next year he will be more consistent and make less mistakes, unfortunately their is no fast track to making a QB good, it takes several years. He had his worst game of the year coming back from an injured shoulder. Ride his ass after a few games if he isnt playing better, dont think is the game we start the a dump Trubisky swansong. Keep in mind with a new coach, new system and several new players, we were not suppose to be good until next year, this is just a bonus, enjoy it.

This is stupid to be talking about you being a negative person, everybody has known that since you have been on here.Its ok to criticize , we all do , its just your theme song. You have made comments all day and no one said anything. The comment Mongo was referring to was at the end of game. Look at the timeline. You should learn to enjoy life a little, we beat a very good team and everybody was excited, and you throw your little comments in and then spend days trying to back pedal. Posted Sunday at 09:41 PM Somebody tell me again how much better Trubisky is at running the Offense than Daniel? If it weren’t for the D...this game would be a pure disaster.

MT deserves to be criticized, I think the general consensus here is we just beat the best team in the NFL, just rushed for a ton of yards , and had a dominate defensive effort against the highest scoring team in the league, and the first thing out of AGs mouth is (to criticize MT)? I think most people would be excited about the victory and you can do the criticizing later in the week. Its fine to want and expect more out of MT, but he is a developing QB, he will have good moments and plenty of bad ones. He just come off a injury, two weeks off and it was freaking cold out. Those are all components of having a bad game.