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Everything posted by Stinger226
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Complete was a means of saying filling the roster for this year.
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I dislike players that display a lack of motivation. It shows he dont care. Risk is lower there but would rather have a player that wants to get better everyday.
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I didnt say we were going to the Super Bowl. We will add one more WR this year. Does that mean it is top 5 in league, I didnt say that. This is what we will got to war with this year. We will have some UDFAs in and maybe one more WR in FA after the draft, but we aint adding much more high end WRs. What you think we're going after Bryant? no way.
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I really think Brown is just a waste. Lacks work ethic and drive., the rest looks great.
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He will be there at 8. If you put the man beast on the line, that would give the OLBers more room to roam. He would be a plus add. We may be surprised.
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Our roster is one WR away from being complete. A draftee. He will cost to much for what you get back. Is he better than Bellamy, Gentry, Fowler, and probably White, of course. If they didnt want to pay Merideth 5 mil, they surely arent interesting in paying Dez that.
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Who gave you shit for saying we had a lousy group of WRs? White and Merideth were the only two worth keeping. We got Bellamy and White. Thank God for FAgency.
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I think he may be the best pure pass rusher in this draft. He may be more of a situation pass rusher, but probably would not take at 8. I think Edmunds would play inside and some outside in passing situations but will take a few years to develop. Landry could contribute day one is passing situations.
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I think it come down to a questionable medical, how much do you want to pay the 5th pass catching option, and wanting more of a speedy wideout. Robinson- Burton-Gabriel-Cohen----? Then still have Shaheen and Howard that will get some targets.
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If we can get a IOL starter and OLB starter quality out of the draft, the rest of the picks would be depth and growth. Another WR prospect, OT prospect and ILB prospect. It would be a good draft.
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It all comes down to money. A cheap deal , he would be worth a shot, we dont need another Brandon Marshall type. Its about money, and bad attitude.
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He is 6'1" 217 with 4.38 speed. 36" vertical and 10'6" broad jump. mainly a slot guy, but has some upside.
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I think out of this draft we need a IOL starter, a future OT prospect, a OLB, and ILB--- and now a WR prospect.
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I like all the names you have, I just think they address IOL in the first few picks. I hope either Morgan or Kush turn out to be very good, I just think with the injury history of Long, they add to the mix in the middle, to not have the problem of both OGs injured at the same time and be left with shifting Whitehair again.
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We may be taking R. Smith with the #8 pick. Cobbs run a 4.64 at the combine,. we will be adding a speed guy not a big.
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You may be right, but I doubt it. between OC and OG, we need to add depth if not a starter. No way we don't add to that position in the draft.
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I think what Nagy still needs in the WR corp is more speed. Gabriel is the only true speed guy they have. Cohen is a 4.42 guy but we need depth. In the slot you will be seeing Burton and Cohen a lot, so I think we need more of an outside backup guy. White cant be relied on but he is the perfect match for what we need. I lie Burnett, Moore and also Cedric Wilson from Boise State.
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So where is the OG we need to start this year? We at least need to draft someone between OG/OC spot. If Kush or Morgan can start and develop, that means Grasu is our back up center and that is not acceptable.
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Again I mention, this was not Paces decision on Cam. If Nagy wanted Cam he would be here right now. Because our WRs were so lousy last year, we put him on a pedestal. I hope he does well in the future, but their are several risks for someone that had one average season for a #2-#3 WR. I want him just for better depth, but they have a plan and because they are not sharing it with us does not mean it is a bad plan.
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they will not be drafting a WR in the first two rounds. A prospect has a chance to grow in our O. scheme. I think I am spot on in the first 4 spots, the rest are question marks as to how much they will be used. I think Burton and Cohen will be playing a lot of slot position. Howard , Shaheen , and Sims will have big question marks. Depends on volume of offensive plays will be able to perform. I think early in the year it will take time to jell, but from 5th game on, we have the chance to be a top5 O. Remember I am a optimist, so probably will be less for my expectations.
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This is not on Pace, if Nagy wanted him he will be here. They will be adding a FA and a draft pick. Neither will be making over a mil a year.
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They could be bringing in a FA at a vet minimum. There really is no need to be paying 5 mil to a WR that make be the 5th option in the passing cycle. We have Robinson that will probably be getting 80+ receptions. Gabriel will get 50+ Burton will be getting 60+ Cohen will be getting 50+ Howard will be getting 40+ Shaheen if used properly will be 40+ Sims is still in the mix and at the least will see 30 + targets being on the field. You have the wild card of Kevin White that everyone has wrote off but Nagy feel real comfortable with. We are paying 5+ mil, whether we use him or not. We resigned Bellamy, more for STs than WR but will have some value in the scheme. We have no idea what Nagy thinks of Tanner Gentry. He may think he can be our 4th or 5th WR. AND we will be drafting one in the 4th or 5 th round to add to the mix. So did we need Cam? Apparently Nagy did not think so, or he would be here.
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The possibility exists that they want to explore a cheaper option at WR in the draft. There should be plenty of prospects in the 4th round to add to the mix. We have no idea what they think of the other players on the roster, other than Robinson or Gabriel. They may think there is an option there we don't view that way. They have 4 good pass catching options on the team. Rob, Gabriel, Burton, Cohen, also Shaheen, Sims, and Howard will be used more. Now the problem is we do not have the depth if we have some injuries. I am for bringing Cam back at the price since we have a cheap QB and RB groupings. They are short contracts so when we need to pay MT , we can work everything out. They may like Tanner Gentry in this offense, never know what Nagy thinks of the WR group.
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That would be perfect to boast our weaknesses. Starter at OC, Jones replaces Massie in one year and two LBers in the mix.
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I would agree, mediocre would work, but how much will that affect his playing time? He is a excellent runner, so if he has 40 catches at a 75% drop rate, he is doable. How many complete RBs are in the league right now? Out of the 10 RBs that had over 1000 yards last year, 6 had better catch rates than Howard. Gurley's catch rate was 73.6% and Howard's was 71.9%. Elliot, Gordon and Fournette had worse catch rates, so I guess they all suck as RBs.