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At the combine, Arians remarked he would like to keep him, so that bodes for something. It is always about money.

I think it is clear Pace is commited to building through the draft and is bringing people in the get us through the next couple of years while our drafted players develop. His first year here , was not great, he still did not have his draft people in place, his crew was left over from the last regime. His second year was great in the draft. Besides Whitehair, Howard, Floyd, we still have some upside players still developing. Bullard, Bush, Hall,Kwaitoski ,Robinson-Harris,Houston-Carson. He brought in LeBlanc who appears to be able to play. Truth be told, several of those players still have the opportunity to be starters and some may be stars. Second year players that still have something to prove, White, Amos, Goldman needs to be healthy. This year we have high picks, so the legacy of Pace will be in the draft not in FAgency.

Today Darius Butler in today, would be a total upgrade He was playing safety his last 4 games and have stated that is where he wants to play. PPF has his coverage skills as the 4th best when playing the safety position. We are seeing older guys coming in which I believe is just a stop gap while our draftees develop.

If we look at last year, we signed one larger contract Trevathan and a bunch of middles type contracts. This year our one major sign was Glennon, and now back to improving the roster while being fiscally responsible.

Marcus Cooper isnt a household name but his stats last year was very good In 2016, Cooper appeared in 15 games for the Cardinals recorded 69 tackles, four interceptions with one being returned for a touchdown and 11 pass defenses. He wasnt a starter but had 4 int and 11 PDs. Clearly better than anyone we had on the field last year. Arz is known to have good DBs and guess who led the team in ints? Cooper He was a pro bowl alternate last year. He is 6'2" 192 Here is stats as a draftee At Rutgers' pro day, Cooper ran the 40-yard dash in 4.45 and 4.46 seconds. He had a 39 1/2-inch vertical jump and a 10-foot-9 broad jump. He ran the short shuttle in 4.42 seconds and the three-cone drill in 6.89 seconds. He performed 20 lifts of 225 pounds on the bench press. Tom Compton is being signed as a swing OT, he has played on both sides, clearly not being signed to start but to add depth.

Read where we're close to signing tom Compton/OT formally from Atlanta and Marcus Cooper/CB from Arizona

We're disagreeing about a woulda , coulda, he wasn't here so you might as well pretend he would have led the league in rushing.

Actually we have two new WRs, I forgot we signed Rueben Randle, I dont think we should not think he could be a #3 type WR on this team.

If we protect the pocket, he will do well, if he gets pressure all the time,not so much.

I am not sure he rates players according to what we think he should be doing. Last year we got Sitton that was a huge upgrade, it wasnt planned but turned out well for us. The problem is we dont know who their after, they may be making offers but that doesnt mean they want to come here. Lets face it, Chicago is not a destination place for Free agents wtihout huge money on top.

He didnt want to be here, it was his choice, not what we offered. I also read Minn offered a better long term deal that we did, but he choose the one year deal.

This is not realistic according to what I see in print but this is what I got. Draftcountdown (Scott Wright) just came out with his top 300 draft list. So I did a draft with no trades and took absolutely the BPA in each round according to the list. Your score is: 14568 (GRADE: A+) Your Picks: Round 1 Pick 3: Myles Garrett, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (A+) Round 2 Pick 4: David Njoku, TE, Miami (Fla.) (A) Round 3 Pick 3: DeShone Kizer, QB, Notre Dame (A+) Round 4 Pick 4: JuJu Smith-Schuster, WR, Southern California (A+) Round 4 Pick 10: Eddie Jackson, SS, Alabama (A+) Round 5 Pick 3: Damontae Kazee, CB, San Diego State (A) Round 7 Pick 3: Zane Gonzalez, K, Arizona State (A) Garrett wont be there, and probably not Kizer but this was a fun draft and it scored very high.

We dont know what would have happened if Forte stayed but truth is, he tailed off big time, and 75% sure he would not have did that well by what happened to him in NY.

He will do well there, Rodgers has the room as a leader plus he will get a ton of passes.

They wont be taking a QB at 3, with Glennon, that gives them the chance of taking a plum player there. As of now, Allen is back in the picture, the other choices will be Adams-Thomas-Lattimore I can see things fall this way barring a trade down. 1 Allen/5T 2 Peterman/QB 3 Justin Evans/FS 4a Fabian Moreau/CB 4b Ryan Switzer/WR or looking at a QB nobody is talking about 1 Allen/5T 2 Budda Baker/FS 3 Kevin King/CB 4a Cris Goodwin/WR 4b Chad Kelly/QB I read where all of his off field red flags came from a bar fight, since its not domestic violence , draftable

Im starting to pay attention to some of there stuff. If things work out he will be our # 2 or 3 CB ,so we have nothing to lose with adding CB depth. He IS the best CB on the roster right now. Maybe in another year D. Hall blossoms into a starter.

Alshon was not wanting to stay. His contract in Philly is 9.5 mil with 4.5 in incentives. I would have took a 5 year 60 mil-24 guarantee before that but if you want to leave, you aint staying.

IF you were on the ledge you probably had a 12 pack, so you had plenty of time to come back.

We are now in Paces wheelhouse, day 2 signing between 6 to 10 mil. We did not have a chance at Gilmore, NE is superbowl champs and paid him big money. bouye played well last year but was his first year as a starter and will prove out, he got over paided with the money he got. Ryan was not a shut down corner, but would have improved our CBs drastically. We still have players to get. Poe would be someone we could fit into what were doing but truth be told , he did not have a good year last year. 27 Ts, 1 and 1/2 sacks and one FF. I see us bringing in someone like Sylvester Williams as a depth at NT with Goldman the lead guy at a low price.Last year he had 29 Ts and 1 sack and will come much cheaper than Poe.

The whole key to this season as far as WRs, White is the savior or the goat, period.

I am disappointed at missing out on one big signing of a playmaker, but lets look at last year first. Everybody got excited at signing Trevathan but we missed out on Malik Jackson and Javous Jenkins, I dont remember people complaining much. We signed Hicks, Freeman and Sitton that all made our team better but I dont remember people celebrating such great free agents. Massie ended up being an okay signing. Hicks was close to being a pro bowl player, Sitton did make the pro bowl and Freeman played like a stud while Trevathan got hurt. On day one we didnt get blowed away but if we look back to last year, I would have to say we did quite well. You can not fix everything in one offseason. We were moving on from Cutler for better or for worse and other than trading for Jimmy G , we got the best free agent QB available, something we had to do. There were three teams bidding for him and the other two teams stopped at 10mil a year. So when were negotiating, how do we know what they are bidding? So Pace offered what he valued for the position and on hindsight we paid to much. The problem is on the first day of FAgency, you overpay. We do not know if he will be good or bad, but since making the choice there are a lot more people saying nice things about him than expected. So now we have a new QB and will soon draft a future prospect. This will prove it self out but if he ends up being the 15th rated QB in the league, I would say that is a win win. We all thought Jeffery was leaving for a long time and it finally happened and we're shocked. Truth is he didnt want to be here, I heard the contract we offered was the 11-12 mil for 4 to 5 years and he choose 14 mil from Philly. One thing to consider is Grohl was there his previous WR coach here when he got here. He wanted out and bet on himself. If he produces like he has the last two years, we will say we won that. There were better choices for S out there than Demps but what I heard is they needed a leader in the backfield and that is what he was in Houston. If you figure Hall, Bush, LeBlanc, Houston-Carson,Amos and Jones-Quartey all improve in their second year, we will look back on this as our best FAgency signing. We forget We have some upside on players we bought in last year, Bush, Hall that could potentially be NFL starters. I wanted Doyle but it is clear, he was given the Cots starting job when they traded Allen, so if we offered the same money or even a little more he didnt want to move. Sims is a blocking TE we didnt have last year, Paulson was suppose to be that guy and he sucked. If we are going to be running the ball more and a lot more two TE sets, we had to have a player like this. Is he a star, no but he can help to improve the over all performance of our offense plus we will draft one some where in the draft. Personally I think Brown will ascend as a TE this year and split time with Miller to help preserve him for the whole year. Wheaton has upside but having a down year because of injury, he could be sneaky good as our slot WR with top end speed. We will have to wait and see who else we get but this will end up being a good signing if he stays healthy. So in review, we had our one big signing at the most important position on the field. Glennon, the year will determine how good a choice this was. We added a WR but lost Jeffery, we have to wait and who else we get. If we end up with Pryor, I will not feel so bad about this. If we end up drafting Zay Jones, I will be excited for next year. Sims was a needed blocking TE and we have it, did we pay to much,Yes, this is free agency. Demps played as well any of the Free agent Ss did last year with 6 interceptions and if he adds leadership in the back of the defense this is a win win. There will be more signing and when its all over, we can start complaining but after one day, I am not sure we should be.

Seen where yesterday Fangio and the Dline coach were in alabama checking out Allen. I dont think they would be there if there was a bad medical on his shoulders. Also I read one statement , the reason they brought in Demps is to help develop the young guys. He is a leader in the locker room and a good guy. (Reported)

The money doesnt mean anything, its how the deal is structured and guaranteed . if its 12.5-13.5-16.5 with 16 guaranteed. that would work

Hooker would be on that list but has the injury history also.

By what Hoyer got , I would say the Glennon will be 3 year-35- with 16 guaranteed-12 the first year.