Stinger226

Im all cool with you,I have called you out on some things you have said, but I never meant it to be personal, as you have witnessed, I say stupid stuff sometimes(or a lot) . There are a lot of different posters that ride each other on this site, but that is what makes this interesting, the passion at which people have with their opinions. Sometimes I say things with out putting a lot of thought into and dont always do the research on every point I try to make, but having said all that I still make contributions on here. 6 of the 17 threads posted on here now are I ones that I started. If everybody drank the same koolaid, and agreed with each other, this would be a boring site. I am happy to say, this is not a boring site to visit.

Im all cool with you,I have called you out on some things you have said, but I never meant it to be personal, as you have witnessed, I say stupid stuff sometimes(or a lot) . There are a lot of different posters that ride each other on this site, but that is what makes this interesting, the passion at which people have with their opinions. Sometimes I say things with out putting a lot of thought into and dont always do the research on every point I try to make, but having said all that I still make contributions on here. 6 of the 17 threads posted on here now are I ones that I started. If everybody drank the same koolaid, and agreed with each other, this would be a boring site. I am happy to say, this is not a boring site to visit.

I called myself a dumb ass for taking the thread wrong, it doesnt bother me. As far as the "plumber boy comment" I dont have any problem with that either. If you have ever called a plumber you will realize they make good money doing shitty work. Although I usually do hospitals, schools, industrial work, I still get my face dirty once in a while.

I get all that, but the point I thought he was taking was (it is easy to do after the fact) When he referred to the next few weeks of compiling the lists, I thought he was talking about doing in now, as I last checked this is part of the off season. Hell lets go back a few years and redo the draft of the Bears and we all can look like heros. If were going to play GM, they dont usually wait until after the draft to put a draft board together. I thought we could play this realistically, but as I reread it you guys are probably right and Im the dump ass. It isnt the first and it wont be the last.

PEOPLE KEEP INJECTING OTHER POINTS INTO A SIMPLE POST; JUST PUT A LIST TOGETHER AND LETS DO IT,ENOUGH WITH THE UNNECESSARY POINTS.

You should completely wake up before you answer a thread, he is talking about doing this now,(as the Bears would do it) before the draft(.It's a way to pass some time over next few weeks and it will also build the official 2013 TalkBears draftee list.)

Your right so leave that out of it.(That what if comes from left field, keep the ball in the infield) The list I gave is what is possible to be there. If there is a run on OL and DE that gives us different players to choose from.If there is a run on QBs that changes the list. Like the Bears, we have to put a list together that might be there, it changes as the draft goes on. So because Austin may be gone do we leave him off the list? It is a probability thing. It will be a consensus of what we all think, so just make a list and AZ puts it together and we make a pick.

That all sounds good to me. Now in compiling our list we have to be realistic on who will be there at our pick. Everybody would take Dee Millner, or Dion Jordan but they wont be there. I have been looking at Big Boards lately and most of the same names fall in the first 20 most of the time. I tried to post a thread where everyone would take a shot at who would be our first pick( 17 days to go-pick our 1st rounder?) but everybody got off track from that. I will give it the first shot at that list-of players who could be there-and our list. I look at several big boards and they vary quite a bit. GBND, Draftcountdown, NFP, Walters, and that consensus is what I am using as a general format. Travin Austin- Since we have filled some needs in FAgency, and Emery has talked about playmakers I think he has fallen to the top of the list. He regularly falls in the teens as far as rating. Desmond Trufant- He falls in our range on almost all BBs so I think he will be a player that will see some time on the field and be a starter after this year. With all the passing teams in the league, you can never have enough CBs. Alex Ogletree- We still need youth at LB and he could be a stud at the position, I guess we need to determine if his off field trouble will lower his rating. If we decide that Arthur Brown would slide into this spot. Sheldon Richardson- We still need one more DT for our rotation and is a high rated prospect that could easily be there when we pick. D.J. Fluker- I think he will be to good of a player to pass on, but is not at the top of the list due to the log jam at our RT position. When we resigned Scott, and Webb and Carmi, I think we might address other needs first. My take: Austin will be a play maker that we wont find later in the draft. Trufant is generally rated the 2nd best CB in the draft and will make a contribution all season. Ogletree could be the next big thing at LB for us. If Richardson falls to us, he would be to good to pass up. Fluker could be taken if the others are gone before us. FOOTNOTE: COPPER AND WARMACK WOULD BE AT THE TOP OF THE LIST, BUT I DONT SEE ANY SCENARIO THAT THEY FALL TO US.

I believe he is making 9 mil right now and that is probably what he is worth, but totally agree with you on he will a lot better this year and ends up in the 15 mil at the end of the season.

That is a good article, and Im sure the scouts were watching (The Biggest Losers show) when they noticed him. In the article the writer commented on the reason Russel wasnt in the NFL was because he lacked heart and desire. I am not sure that is who we want for any roster spot on our team.

I can live with that choice. I think there is going to be a stud type player fall to our spot, it may be LB, DE, DT or CB. I hope we pick a player that also fills a need, but no matter what position it is , if he is a stud, we all will end up being happy in the end.

If they draft a CB with our first round pick it will be to eventually replace Tillman or Jennings not Moore. If we draft a DT that high it will be the BPA and if the situation arises that Melton doesnt get a long term contract deal done, to replace him. I am not against those positions just dont feel it was for the reasons you suggested.

I am referring to the statement I made. If you look at all threads they oftentimes go off of there subject all the time.

I still dont see us grabbing a TE that early, but I do think Emery will suprise us in the draft.

The point wasnt talking about a third string QB , it about the pointless discussion of our priority should be replacing Moore and Idonije in the draft. Not a very intelligent outlook on our draft. DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WE NEED TO DO,WITH OUR FIRST TWO PICKS IS REPLACE THEM? Thats just dump.

Your right, if the OL guys arent there, but another CB would see a lot of playing time in our pass happy NFL of today. Smart people in the draft, draft quality players at any position, they dont draft for need. Anybody this side of a QB,RB will improve this team in our future. If we get a stud-anywhere- I cant see myself complaining.

Just something to talk about. I list this in the same category as (replacing Moore and Idonije as the priority in the draft) conversation. Non important issues were discussing on here right now.

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I keep seeing Jarvis Jones/LB dropping and also B Werner/DE. This were players rated much higher than 20th, would everbody be pissed if there our picks? If BPA holds up one of them could be our pick.

The problem with your suggestion is , it isnt what we think about it , its what the Bears brass thinks about it, and its looking like they arent interested in your suggestion.

So by your logic we should be pining for Ryan Leaf to come out of retirement to be a better backup to Cutler. SOMETIMES high rated players just end up sucking, as you pointed out somewhere the experts dont hit 40% on there picks.

The whole idea of this thread was for members to throw names our there that they think will end up being productive pros, that seems to have went sideways.

I agree that is NOT what I want to happen. I just think the quality players I think available at that spot might not be what I desire and they go with a BPA scenario and that is what we end up with. With all our CBs out of contract at the end of this year, this is a REAL possibility of happening.

I think all the OL people we would draft will be gone. I think we would like to draft Austin and he will be gone. I think the players that drop down to us will be DE/DT types, but I think Trufant is ranked right around our pick in the big boards I have been looking at and think he will be our pick. This is not the player, I would like, that would be Ogletree at this stage but, think with his off field problems, we let him slide.There is a real good chance we move down but for sake of this thread, we pick Turfant/CB.

I think they cut Hester or make him take a pay cut this year. We will save 2.1 if we cut him with 833,000 dead cap. That is to much money for a KRer. I think you are right on with Peppers next year, they redo his deal and stays another year. I think next year the dead cap money would only be 3.2 mil., so cutting him out right is probable . Bennett becomes productive, we keep him but redoes his contract. He is paid way to much for what he gave us last year. I think Forte has a big year this year and we keeep him around. I think Briggs stays to finish his contract, and gets a Urlacher deal. Take it or leave. I also think we end up cutting Gould this year and redo his contract. He will make 2.9 mil, and with all the vets getting cut, we could get one for a mil. I also think after this year Podlesh is gone. This year the dead money would be 1.2 but next year they will be no penalty. Micheal Bush has his guaranteed money done after this year, so that could be a spot to free up money next year. Bottom line is next year will have some sweeping changes and will have more money that we think they will.