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I dont disagree but the only push against that narrative is the new people running things, mainly Poles. He has did many good things but will all be underminded by retaining Flus. We get to see how the yr plays out. He clearly did not address the OL well enough to work. We have added talent and have a (maybe) franchise QB, the most important acquisition (maybe) in our history? The rebuild is 2 and 1/2 yrs old, he is not finished yet. He stated it will take 4-5 yrs to do a complete rebuild. We have never seen that before in our history. This is what it looks like. He addressed the OL but it isnt working. He will get one more yr to finish building the roster. Flus wont be here, does it help CW to get rid of him now? You cant do anything about the OL in season. The fanbase will like it but will it matter? Fire Waldron , make Tom Brown OC, Flus give DC play calling to Williams and be the HC only. I think that iis the best scenario we may have. We dont have a person in the coaching staff that can turn this around.

So what happens tomorrow ? I think Waldron gets canned and Flus gives up DC play calling to become full time HC. Everyone needs to be fired but that probably isnt going to happen now. Hard to believe that a 4-2 (played bad) lost to a good team on the road to a Hail Mary play and it wreaked our season.

Is this your first post this season , I havent noticed you until now.

Im done for the day. good luck

I dont think he drafted the wrong QB, but lots of things blowing up on this offense. Bad injuried OL, bad play calling. I hope on the no huddle offense he is not letting Caleb call those plays. If true, Flus needs to be fired when the game is over. The kid aint ready yet and this situation isnt developing him.

The all 22 replay is not going to be kind to Caleb.

Witth Booker and Kramer playing the left side(bad), quick pass or roll outs to the right. Run the ball, do not stick CW in the pocket. Is it too early to talk draft?

Really, are we going to throw the ball 50 times against the worse team in the league? Run the ball , short passing game, roll outs? If we lose this game, you fire Waldron, Flus, and bench CW until our OL gets healthy.

Did Swift and Johnson get hurt?

5 straight running plays in a roll, Is Swift making the play calls?

More OL injuries, I know what our whole draft will be next yr. First 4 picks have to be OL

Quick throws, perfect.

Let m rephrase that, the QB position between Waldron trying to please CW to much and CW still in the rookie stage of his game. This is all going to get better but needs to happen today.

Im like you ,I like and want CW to be our all pro but we cant close our eyes when he plays and pretend he doesnt make mistakes. I must have watched 20 podcaste and football shows and many people bought that up. I dismissed it but the first series showed that. Another big problem is they said, that I believe true, that Waldron is calling games that give CW to much leaway to do what he wants. Its quite simple, run the ball, keep it simple for CW and dont let him play Caleb ball.(not my term) kyle Long They do it for Daniels and he is florishing

Clearly the main problem is CW. Had time to throw, holds the ball to long. Swift was check down and open.

31 to 12, NE (kidding)

Lots of people saying things that are guessing. I THINK, no matter what happens, it will be after the season. I also dont think we are going to go on a 11 game losing streak. We are a better team than last yr. After 9 games, we were 2-7, after tomorrow we will be 5-4. We have a rookie QB that has had a few good games and lots of bad games. We wouldnt be blaming playing play calling if players were exectuing. This all looks bad, but I believe the Hail Mary play created a huge over reaction to everything. We are still on track to hit 9 wins which most people predicted. We still have good players on this roster. Barring lots of injuries, we can still win 9, with CW playing better maybe 10.

Allen does play out of the slot most of the time. If you go 2 TEs, one of them come off the field. DJ is playing on the outside but CW is not getting him the ball cleanly. Hard to blame DJ on this when CW has a 43% or 49% (cant find the post)miss rate throwing to him. With all the blame being thrown around, CW is the worst QB in the league over the last 2 games. Dont understand why people avoid critizing him, he deserves it.

Its just someones opinion, doesnt mean their right. They were not good but at least showed up in the 3 game winning streak. Now injuries has made them terrible. Looks Borom/LT (bad but healthy now), guess its better than a PS call up. Jake Curhan as backup? Jenkins/LG cross your fingers he stays healthy. Kramer is the backup? Shelton/C the very average player is now the foundation of our line. Kramer Bates/RG I think he comes back now, has been practicing. Kramer or Davis as backup? Pryor/RT I think he moves here and Curhan as backup. The best think we can do is run the ball, easier for the line to adapt to NE doesnt have a lot of talent there. You can have 2 TE scheme and help chip the ends. Simplify it for Caleb, he is 8th in the league on holding the ball time, quick throws, roll him out, give him two reads or run. He clearly will be in trouble trying to make 4 reads with a lousy line. Play action if the running game is working. The only deep threat he has a connection with is Odunze, so put DJ at the Slot. His big game last yr was wihen played the slot.

He may wait until the end of the year but the next 3 games will decide what he does. I think we agree. Just dont think he's firing him, if he does, till the end of the yr. Now if he has 5 game losing streak ( 2 already), he may have too. I think Herbert fumbled the ball his first carry with the Bengals.

Just seen a Adam Rank post that said NFL insiders told him, he was keeping Flus no matter what happens this yr. I find when people say they support a coach it is a kiss of death. I think, winning record, he stays, losing record he leaves.

I have just read , not verified , that he originally signed a 5 yr deal when everyone was thinking 4 yr deal. Next yr is playoff time on Poles schedule and if Flus isnt winning, they aint worring about a couple million when they probably have the right QB. Like you said speculation on almost everything, 3 more games will define this yr.

Everyone can be traded, but you dont get rid of your best Offensive player because of one play. He is frustraded like everyone else. CWs miss rate to him is 39.4%, worse in the league. He is one of the highest character players on the team. We will never be a winning team if you keep getting rid of good players. He was great last yr and a history of above average stats with crappy QBs. our biggest problem is a rookie QB playing bad. We looked good when we ran the ball well and CW played confortable. The OL has a big effect on everything right now with major injuries. Play calling comes into play but it will never look good if players dont exicute.

They talked today about signed thru 2025, but Im not sure. Poles aint going to worry about 1 yr left,r it comes down to having a winning record and developiong CW. If he doesnt win, he will be gone. Not the right question at this time with a potenial 5-4 record. Its the division strerch that will sink him.