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I was more referring to their recent treatment of coaches more then anything else.

Worst coaching, worse front office, etc. All the way down. Players not bought in, basic mistakes, basic scheme. Its just awful. It is why there has to be a fresh start all the way through the organization.

It all starts with a clean slate. This organization needs to bring in new football people from the top down. Case closed. We will not get to the next land without doing that. No clue whether they make the right decision but our current crew is incapable of doing so and I hope we continue to play this bad so it makes it very easy for everyone in the league and ownership to understand why the decision has to be made (so no one has to fear about looking like the Browns or Raiders).

I agree with you guys but I also think it is pathetic how our head coach has handled this. He continues to not get it. By the way, great post AZ.

Talks about how Briggs talked about how he just looks at the clock during meetings to see when it will finally end, etc. Also goes on to talk about how Trestman just doesn't understand discipline and is just so blaze regarding how to send messages to players and the lockeroom, etc. Bottom line, it demonstrates his overall lack of leadership in the sense of what it takes to lead a football team as the head coach.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/rosen...106-column.html

Tresty is probably the quickest thought but I think that has a lot to do with the fact that of all of them, he had probably the most pathetic track record from the standpoint that most of his recent successes in a league that mattered were over a decade ago. Lovie was a good candidate, Wanny was a legendary coordinator and well thought of, Jauron was pretty well respected (albeit we all thought we were hiring someone else). Trestman was totally out of left field and at the time there was Andy Reid, Chip Kelly, Mike McCoy, and Bruce Arians...all guys with a recent track record of success.

Especially when he had a QB named Steve Young who ran his system with a lot of success while leveraging the bootleg. It also is yet another mechanism to help your line as you don't allow defensive lineman to really know where the pocket is going to be.

I want to point out. I don't care how loud our coaches scream or how calm our coaches are. I just found it laughable that he legimately thought he needed to tell the team that its okay, i evaluated all the film and we practiced hard. I just don't think that is a key message. I think the message we keep sending is things aren't as bad as they appear. That may be fine and dandy but we have done a lot of things to lead to this point in the season and a lot of them need to be corrected. I just don't see Trestman as a leader or at least not one that can lead and be the head coach of an NFL team. I hope I am wrong. PS: I am dead serious. I just want best coach; quiet and even keeled or ticked all the time, I don't really care, just be good and win.

Specifically the one where he mentioned that during the bye week the coaches and him analyzed practice film and decided and told the team that they practiced hard and blah blah blah and that everyone was working hard to fix the problem and we'd get through it. Are you really kidding me. You decided you were going to tell the team, don't worry, I looked at our practice tape and decided that we are all practicing hard and blah blah blah and that all of the coaches are putting in the time, etc. No wonder he is losing the clubhouse. I wouldn't have been able to keep a straight face if that was one of the key message points after the break. You'd think it would go, we analyzed a lot of things and have a plan. While we think we are working hard, we know we need to fix the following and have ideas of how to fix it and it can be done. If you want past examples, look at teams X and Y (NY Giants who won a superbowl, etc). Talent is here but we need to do the following, be more disicplined, protect the football, blah blah blah and here is how we are going to do it and we are all going to recommit to it, etc.

Ok...I agree this is a good sign but the bigger question why is it we are first looking into this a year and a half into Trestman's tenure.

Yes, we have had a tough schedule but that doesn't mean we can ignore some of the brutal excuses and issues that have happened and have lead to losses. We can't also ignore the fact that the front office have made some very detrimental decisions that put us in a very difficult position to contend these next few years (mainly Cutler and hiring Trestman).

Very good article below with commentary from an ex front office guy and Cowher. Insights have a lot to do with massive issues on roster construction and they blast our oline as well. In summary, Bears problem has more to do with the fact that our defense and special teams are putrid and the personel moves have been bad. We missed the boat on most of our FA signings this year and even last year didn't get the impacts we expected. We also seemed to miss the boat in the evaluation of guys we brought back / opted not to replace (e.g., any of our linebackers). Those things can't be excused. http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/footb...1029-story.html Again, I am coming more and more to the conclusion that we have the wrong people running the show and need a total overhaul. Pay the money to bring in proven football people and let them run this franchise.

Absolutely. It is kind of crazy that they didn't. Now maybe Rod didn't give any indication but Rod is a pretty upstanding guy so I'm fairly certain he would have said, most likely I will be moving on or something along those lines.

By the way, if anyone can't read the article, here is the trick. Paste the link in google and then click on it through there and then you will be able to read it.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/colum...028-column.html That is absurd and just ridiculous. Again, Arians had an actual clue (as did the other top candidates) of reality where the Bears clearly didn't and they ended up hiring the one coach, desperate enough for a position, and out of touch of the reality that was the friendship between Rod and Lovie. The fact that Emery and others were so surprised just tells you how out of touch they were with the reality of the situation. Again, I say, a bunch of clowns, and for those that know my posting history, I'd like to think I'm pretty even keel by and large (with exception to Tucker and Joey D who I've consistently bashed since midway through last year and for good reason).

I agree with you. Unless there is a scheme issue or something else driving his poor play, it seems to me that any pick for him doesn't make much sense. And if it is a scheme issue, I don't have any faith in our coaches to solve it here either.

Completely agree with this post and your thoughts on Trestman. He appears to be so far in over his head. It also appears that Emery is as well.

For those that talk about the smoke with Harbaugh. People don't like them, thats okay. He isn't a bad person and he expects a lot of out his players and a professional attitude and his teams have performed very well. He took a horrible team and since he came in they have done nothing but win. We could only be so lucky. In fact, I'll go as far as compare him to Belliceck with the exception that the Niners ownership is more meddling then Kraft is with Belli. A lot of people don't necessarily like playing for Belliceck but you either buy into the Patriot way or you are out. The results speak for themselves. By the way, Chitown, great post. The first 4 points are just spot on, especially #4. Emery can not be absolved for these failures. He is just as much a part of them as Trestman. I also agree with you the best thing for this franchise is the offense gets rolling and kicks ass and the defense / st stink. It means we still have a QB that is semi worth the money and can really focus an off-season on bringing in a new DC and continuing to rebuild the defense vs. having to rebuild everything while being saddled with some horrendous cap blows (such as the Cutler contract).

One thing I will say that about Allen is that he is an upstanding guy.

This is from Biggs trib article, 10 thoughts, which is usually one of my favorite reads. I really like Herring and I said all off-season that our LB corps were total stinkers and was a huge position of need. I'd say it is the weakest position on the entire roster. Herring would seem to agree. I bolded one part for added emphasis.

Let me ask you this. Are you happy with the results from Houston and Allen thus far? I for one am not and that was a lot of money spent on those two players in particular. Are you happy with the talent we have at the LB position? I am not. I will give him credit for the Fuller pick and it appears our dlinemen we drafted are improving but even if you look back to last years draft, you still are looking at a lot of players that aren't that great (outside of Long). That said, I think Bostic and Greene stink so for those that don't, they might think last years draft to be a bit better.

My plan is similar to yours ML. It starts with hiring Harbaugh. If that means Emery brought him in, fine. If that means he is the GM, as much as i don't like the idea of a coach / GM, I am okay with that. The culture of this organization needs to change at the top. If Jim wants to keep Cutler, fine, in Jim I'll trust, but my preference would be to end this experiment (unless our offense ends up finishing up very strong and it turns out we need to focus on defense / special teams which in theory would be much more ideal cause it would leave us with a lot less dead cap space). Right now though, Cutler & Marshall have to be gone as do our entire coaching staff. We have failed in all three phases and it isn't because of a lack of talent. That is why I debate keeping / cutting Emery. That said, when Emery went so far outside the establishment to hire his head coach, he too was taking a much bigger risk. All this said, somehow we'll beat the Packers this week, haha. This is the worst I've felt about our franchise since the Wanny / Jauron era.

It has kind of came out subsequently that we are talking about 2 particular runs turned to pass so we'd have 4 vs. 2, which isn't a big deal. It seems that the bigger issue is the predictability of our play calls and the fact that Cutler might be staring down the targets as well. Both of which are problems, one of which is on coaching, the other on our team. Trestman also seemed to indicate the problem wasn't with the audibles, rather, he just wanted to focus more on the rushing the ball regardless of the looks they saw. Excellent point regarding the bootleg. I have never understood why we don't maximize and design more plays to do this, but for whatever reason, we don't.

We have given Jay this money and need to use him. We need to try and get the most out of him. Talent is clearly there, we'll see on production. It is year 2 in this sytem and they can't ignore that fact. We should see progress. Ups and Downs will happen but we need to see long-term progress. Lets see how he responds to the adversity but given the financial commitment, going to Claussen now would be a downright disaster. Our chance of being competitive the next 2 years rests on Jay. If the year really goes down the tubes, then we draft a QB early and evaluate how much of these failures are on Jay vs. how much are on Jay & Trestman.