jason Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 RG-Best in the NFL? RT-Above average? Move him back in the middle and find the starting OT in the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 I agree, park Long next to Grasu and fix the interior of the line. I'm tired of watching Omameh get moved around, and Grasu doesn't have the strength to hold up. An athletic and strong RG like Long can fix a lot of what's wrong inside. What do you think about some of the FA RTs? Andre Smith (Bengals) could be a really good RT. I have no clue how well he's playing this season but he has the physical talent to excel but IIRC he's been a bit of a head case with regards to his conditioning. Mitchell Schwartz? He likely want to get out of the circus that is Cleveland and he won't cost a lot but he's also not a top tier RT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 I agree, park Long next to Grasu and fix the interior of the line. I'm tired of watching Omameh get moved around, and Grasu doesn't have the strength to hold up. An athletic and strong RG like Long can fix a lot of what's wrong inside. What do you think about some of the FA RTs? Andre Smith (Bengals) could be a really good RT. I have no clue how well he's playing this season but he has the physical talent to excel but IIRC he's been a bit of a head case with regards to his conditioning. Mitchell Schwartz? He likely want to get out of the circus that is Cleveland and he won't cost a lot but he's also not a top tier RT. I think they need to draft a OT in the top 3 rounds. Tunsil, Stanley or Conklin would make a nice addition. I would re-sign Montgomery again to push Grasu, who needs more strength and better technique. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 I sure hope it's over... RG-Best in the NFL? RT-Above average? Move him back in the middle and find the starting OT in the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connorbear Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 Yeah, I'd move him back. Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackerDog Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 RG-Best in the NFL? RT-Above average? Move him back in the middle and find the starting OT in the draft. Not sure he's even above average there. I think it wasn't an experiment so much as a need that Kyle was willing to fill. Yes, move him back and draft or buy a RT. No question. I had reservations with the whole thing in the first place. Still think he's one helluva football player. PS. It didn't help that the coaching staff never committed to this configuration during preseason and moved him without much real experience in the spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 RG-Best in the NFL? RT-Above average? Move him back in the middle and find the starting OT in the draft. The Ducks RT will be a Junior next season. 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted December 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 I agree, park Long next to Grasu and fix the interior of the line. I'm tired of watching Omameh get moved around, and Grasu doesn't have the strength to hold up. An athletic and strong RG like Long can fix a lot of what's wrong inside. What do you think about some of the FA RTs? Andre Smith (Bengals) could be a really good RT. I have no clue how well he's playing this season but he has the physical talent to excel but IIRC he's been a bit of a head case with regards to his conditioning. Mitchell Schwartz? He likely want to get out of the circus that is Cleveland and he won't cost a lot but he's also not a top tier RT. No thanks on those guys. I'd rather see the Bears go with an OT in the first round. And, guess what? We just happen to be in prime position to do that. I'd love to see Stanley with our #1 pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chitownhustla Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 No thanks on those guys. I'd rather see the Bears go with an OT in the first round. And, guess what? We just happen to be in prime position to do that. I'd love to see Stanley with our #1 pick. Check the latest mock draft I posted, you will like for sure! I have watched very little of Long, the plays where he screws up I typically rewind and watch a couple times to see what happened. From the major mistakes I would think he needs to move back. I would love to know how he is grading out from the Coaches perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 I tend to agree...lets put him back to where he can be the best at his respective position and find a new tackle. Additionally, it definitely appears all the coaches were right on Grasu needing to get stronger. Hopefully he can do it and become effective cause right now he is brutal. Looks like a guy who doesn't belong on the NFL field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChileBear Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 I tend to agree...lets put him back to where he can be the best at his respective position and find a new tackle. Additionally, it definitely appears all the coaches were right on Grasu needing to get stronger. Hopefully he can do it and become effective cause right now he is brutal. Looks like a guy who doesn't belong on the NFL field. Agree on Long could be a leader on the line for a long time as a stud RG with the option of moving him out to RT IF NEEDED. Grasau is getting valuable playing time. With the addition of RT and LT (God, what team doesn't need em?) via FA or draft, this OL could be set for many years. Grasp the possibilities! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 Agree on Long could be a leader on the line for a long time as a stud RG with the option of moving him out to RT IF NEEDED. Grasau is getting valuable playing time. With the addition of RT and LT (God, what team doesn't need em?) via FA or draft, this OL could be set for many years. Grasp the possibilities! Yep...I think the whooping Grasu is getting will be further validation to listen to the coaches and put in the work this off-season. Still, I hope he is able to show enough that the coaches see a guy who can be a starter with added strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 No thanks on those guys. I'd rather see the Bears go with an OT in the first round. And, guess what? We just happen to be in prime position to do that. I'd love to see Stanley with our #1 pick. SHOCKER! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted December 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 SHOCKER! Until the issue is fixed, and it hasn't been since I don't know when, the issue remains. The flaws remain. The holes remain. And the Bears will continue to have a mediocre offense that can't cach up with the rest of the NFL. THE "OL above all else"-theory has not been disproven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackerDog Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 Until the issue is fixed, and it hasn't been since I don't know when, 1980 something. Although Wanny had some decent lines, IIRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 1980 something. Although Wanny had some decent lines, IIRC. Lovie had some solid lines (back when we signed Miller and had Ruben Brown, Kreutz, and Jonathan Tait). They got crappy later on but early in Lovie's tenure Angelo had been pretty succesful dumpster diving on some free agents (in addition to the big Tait signing). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 Check the latest mock draft I posted, you will like for sure! I have watched very little of Long, the plays where he screws up I typically rewind and watch a couple times to see what happened. From the major mistakes I would think he needs to move back. I would love to know how he is grading out from the Coaches perspective. On Long, it can't be good, I saw a stat the other week that showed QB Pressures allowed, and Long was in the top 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted December 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 1980 something. Although Wanny had some decent lines, IIRC. Yeah, I think 2006 was the last time the Bears had a complete OL. Tate - Brown - Kreutz - Garza - Miller All above average and competitors. Kreutz was a leader and a monster. Garza was in his original position. Surprise, surprise...the Bears were third in the NFL in offense that year (yes, I know Hester had something to do with it) and went to the Super Bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 No thanks on those guys. I'd rather see the Bears go with an OT in the first round. And, guess what? We just happen to be in prime position to do that. I'd love to see Stanley with our #1 pick. I'll disagree on this. I'd get the best OT out there in free agency to give flexilbilty in the draft. I personally think pass rush is the number one deficiency on this team with OT being a close #2. If your pass rusher is not there and a great OT prospect is; load up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 I'll disagree on this. I'd get the best OT out there in free agency to give flexilbilty in the draft. I personally think pass rush is the number one deficiency on this team with OT being a close #2. If your pass rusher is not there and a great OT prospect is; load up! Re-watching some of the recent games, ILB seems to be our absolute biggest weakness. At least the DLine was occupying a blocker, our ILB's played the Cover-0 most of the year (as in covering no one). RB and TE's have gashed us up the middle and Gabbert's long run was a low light. However, I don't think you have to draft in order of need level. You have to take the best available in a need area, so we could essentially go OL, DL, LB, CB, or S in the first round and it will fill a need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackerDog Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Yeah, I think 2006 was the last time the Bears had a complete OL. Tate - Brown - Kreutz - Garza - Miller Not bad. Not perfect but yes, above average for sure. I'd take that for our current roster any day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackerDog Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Re-watching some of the recent games, ILB seems to be our absolute biggest weakness. We just need guys who can fricken TACKLE. Don't know how many times we needed the second or third guy in to actually bring a runner down this season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Re-watching some of the recent games, ILB seems to be our absolute biggest weakness. At least the DLine was occupying a blocker, our ILB's played the Cover-0 most of the year (as in covering no one). RB and TE's have gashed us up the middle and Gabbert's long run was a low light. However, I don't think you have to draft in order of need level. You have to take the best available in a need area, so we could essentially go OL, DL, LB, CB, or S in the first round and it will fill a need. A serviceable, experienced ILB is not near the premium of a pass rusher or OT. He can be on the team before the draft easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 A serviceable, experienced ILB is not near the premium of a pass rusher or OT. He can be on the team before the draft easily. Unless you can get a Luke Kuechly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 I was going to say move him to LT, because that should be his more natural position, but I like what I've seen from Leno J.R. I'd move him back to guard and look for a more suitable RT in the offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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