ASHKUM BEAR

The Patriots have put a price on Jimmy G, seems a little steep to me. They are looking for a 1st and 4th; what do you think? https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/now-that-...-162636351.html

Exactly my thought. If no QB is worthy of drafting Rounds 1 or 2, then do not draft one at all. They would be no different then what we currently have in Barkley, Shaw, or Fales. If this is the case, then the trade we should be making is for a FUTURE 1st RD pick in 2018'ss draft. Arizona: Round 1-11 = 1250pts, Round 2-43 = 470pts, Future 1st (equal to a 2nd) = 470-500 pts Total: 2190-2220 value Bears: Round 1-3 = 2200 value Draft: 1-10 Derek Barnett OLB Tenn 2-35 Cordrea Tankersly CB Clem 2-43 Budda Baker FS Was 3-67 Jordan Leggett TE Clem 4-100 Chad Wheeler OT USC 4-108 Malachi Dupree WR LSU 5-136 Julie'n Davenport OT Bucknell 7-245 Best ILB prospect:

With 48-60 million, the Bears will be big spenders. I think the target fix this off season will be with the DBs. Dee Millner CB and Tony Jefferson SS would be two good pick ups. I would still consider Calais Campbell DE or Melvin Engram OLB to solidify the front pass rush also. Sign those 4 and the draft opens to a wide variety of options were we may be able to trade down a few slots and take Jamal Adams FS and gain enough ammo to get back into the first to grab a QB. Free agency will be a big part this offseason, wish I can see Paces wish list.

Going off needs, QB and CB. Top 2 talent may be DE and OLB, so maybe we go there.

I cannot say none of these guys are not franchise types yet. My intial thought is Trubisky looks the part, but I will wait until I start seeing final grades. Pace seems to know his QBs if reports are correct about him targeting Marriotta and Wentz with trying to trade up for them. If the Bears are serious about the position, round one is where you start the process. The top two may go before we pick, then you look further down.

As much as I would love to see a premier defensive end or OLB added, QB should be the Bears top priority. Trubisky's name will be at the top of the board, but Clev and SF will be looking hard at him too. The Bears invested high in White and have a steal in Howard, it would be great to finalize the trifecta with a QB to go forward with.

Miami beating Buffalo helps that second 4th round pick some also. Definitely need to get a QB after watching Barkley today.

I like Humphrey, he is in my top 5 right now. As late round CBs go, Kevin King has been interesting too. Another late guy I liked is climbing Chidobe Awuzie, Colorado.

I stick to mainly CBS or Matt Millers boards on fanspeak. Miller seems more like a midwest homer as he tends to rate ND and bigten players higher which takes some fun out of it. To be honest, it is still to early to feel where players slot, but it is fun to play out. Like your draft alot, but I would almost sacrafice the TE Leggett for an OT if someone liken Wheeler was available. Kupp is a steal, would make a great compliment to Kevin White if he ever gets back to what he was supposed to be. I still think Falk can be one of the best QBs in the draft. Have that Derek Carr feeling with him.

May have to try and trade him. Sucks bc we probably only get a conditional 6-7 rd pick. Wonder with him being a NFL family guy if he is getting lousy advice from family members? The guy seems to be holding out or maybe he really isnt healthy.

I am ok paying big in fa and front load it. The amount of cap we will have will be huge, especially if Cutler gets released. 48 mil plus 14 if Cutler is cut (62 total). They can sign two big fa's and a handful of middle tier with that. Jeffery will have to be signed or taggedbecause they should not let him go with no return.

I agree, the Bears should take him on bpa status alone. It is not the greatest need but it would make the defensive front 7 scary to face and how the 85 team was made. It would also help the dbacks because the ball would have to come out quicker. I am not against it, but playing devils advocate here, I start to think of the Jets. As long as the Bears can still draft a worthy QB, it can work out. Maybe we luck into the Raiders situation when they got Mack and Carr. Our Dbacks are young except for Porter and some (Hall/Bush) haven't got much of a chance yet to grow.

If Calais Campbell DE ARZ hits the open market, the Bears should jump all over him to fill the gap until Bullard emerges or falls. Sign Campbell at DE, go with our current OLB's and draft QB or CB.

Unfortunately, Royal will be back at some point until he clears a physical. They cannot cut him until then, same with Cutler I believe.

It is early, but I see Cleveland going OLB #1 (Garnett/Barnett, 49ers QB (hopefully Watson if Kelly is still coach), Jax is tough because they fired Bradley, so could be OT/WR (Ramzyck OT/ Mike William or John Ross WR)to help Bortles if they havent given up on him too.. Bears may be looking at Kizer/Trubisky, Humphrey CB, Adams S, or Allen DE, Barnett/Garrett OLB. Bears will definately be looking at some good choices to make a difference.

I see Cleveland going BPA with their first pick and if no QB of their likings is available, then make the trade with New England for Jimmy Garapollo. They recently established a trade working partnership for Jamie Collins at OLB for a 4th rd pick. Pairing Garrett with Collins would give them a great set of olb.

I do not see a plethora of ILB's, unless Trevathan makes a miraculous recovery. Not sure why there is discussion of cutting one? Like you said, I think we have seen enough of Timu and Anderson and can use another young talent in the mix. After 2017, if the young guns look like starters, then you can look at saving cap by releasing Freeman.

Trevathan's injury (torn patellar) is very serious, he may be missing a portion of the season next year. That is one of the hardest injuries to recover from with a small return rate. Marc Columbo tore both and it took a couple years, V Cruz took longer than a year and Jimmy Graham about a year. I think we may need another young ILB as depth this offseason.

Damn JAX, had a lead and blew it. Clev lost and SF is losing to ATL early on. Bears still sitting at pick #4, would take a miracle to get any higher.

The Bears need to draft and develop there own QBs. We may think there is no talent in this draft, but NE would draft one and be trading him 3 years down the road. It takes having the right system and without it, trading doesnt matter. Look at what we got out of Jay.

Starting to jump on the Barkley bandwagon. He has earned a chance to return and may be the best QB we have over Hoyer/Shaw, assuming Cutler is out of the mix. **side note Jacksonville is up 13-0, Bears losing today may move them up to the pick #3 slot.**

Hard to say, I think Ramczyk will be the top 10 prospect, but who knows until we get closer to April. I used fanspeak to run the mock using CBS' s big board and they had him available. I ran it again and he was gone but Roderick Johnson FSU was available. It would be nice to get 2 starting caliber OTs to either push our current starters or to replace them.

That's correct. Only read he was not happy. He knows teams look at successful teams for HC candidates and this current team is not making him a front runner. That is good for us though.

His first go round was horrendous, but he will hit the carousel again as a top candidate. I would prefer to keep everything intact as they chose this path for a rebuild. It would only set the franchise back by changing schemes etc with so many young players. Loggains is also learning and seems to be ok when anybody but Cutler is at QB. Love to see Mike McCoy at OC though if he doesn't survive SD.

Did some hypothetical drafts, now that I had time to run a few mocks on fanspeak. I ran two offense and two defense using CBS and Matt Miller's to play this out. Defense-using CBS 1-Derek Barnett OLB Tenn-come April, he will be pushing Garnett to be the top pass rusher when NFL scouts start to chatter. He will compliment Floyd well. 2-Desmond King CB Iowa -this was tough, bc he makes a great zone CB but should grasp man coverage also. Considered Tankersly from Clem but went with King bc he is a higher rated prospect. 3-Budda Baker FS Wash- hard to believe he fell as they had him ranked around 55, but if he falls he is the answer at FS. Looking at Eddie Jackson Ala also at FS, but only with the RD4 first pick. 4-Quin Blanding SS Vir -Another SS prospect to push or start. 4-Eddie Vanderdoes DE UCLA- 3-4 End to mix with Bullard, Washington, Unrien. I would also sign FA Calais Campbell from ARZ to start and let the young guys spell when needed. 5-DJ Jone NT Ole Miss-big run stuffer to anchor the middle and spell Goldman. 7-Ben Boulware LB Clem-was a higher prospect last year and fell off some this year. Offense-also used CBS here too. 1-Mitch Trubisky QB NC- raw prospect since he has one year of tape, but can make all the throws. 2-Mike McGlinchey OT ND- the Bears interior is a strong point and upgrading OT is huge priority to protect any QB. 3-Chad Wheeler OT USC- has great movement and plays aggresive. The Bears have two top OT prospects and will have to work out which side each will end up. 4-Jeremy Sprinkle TE Ark- He may be the most complete TE in the draft for blocking and receiving. 4-Artavis Scott WR Clem- Scott would replace Royal in the slot. Re-sign AJ and Hopefully White can stay healthy. 5-Brian Hill RB Wyoming - another RB to push Carey. 7-KD Cannon WR Baylor- like the name. Another slot WR who is rated high on some mocks. Maybe bring along as a KR too.