
ASHKUM BEAR
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Funniest part about this, Matt Miller was one of the first to project Leonard Floyd to the Bears in January 2016. Most other mocks had him anywhere from pick 20 to the 2nd round. Floyd wasn't on anyones radars until after the combine because of his measurables, not because of his production. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2604402...jection/page/12 http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/20...quon-treadwell/ http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/mock-drafts/...zierlein/275603
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http://www.cleveland.com/datacentral/index...acks_picke.html He might want to double dip on the position to better the odds. This article puts perspective on those odds to succeed picking the right guy. I forgot Cade NcNown only made 15 starts. One way or the other, they need to draft a long term solution and hopefully theentire organization is on board to do this correctly.
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I think Pace is safe. Fox on the other hand will be on the hot seat next year unless there is improvement. Pace was given a 5 year deal and Fox a 4, which indicates he will be given another coaching hire if Fox fails. The Bears are not too far off as competitive as they been with a 3-13 record. They played most of the season with backups and had chances to win alot of the games. I really don't see this Joe Allen getting picked round 1 to be honest. More likely it will be Trubisky/Kizer if they do go QB. I would be fine going D (Garrett/Jon Allen) RD 1 and QB RD 2 also.
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I could go with Jefferson at SS and Johnson CB. Short at 5T would be sweet as Bullard comes along. Trading down would be great, Robinson is a for sure top 15 talent, scouts are not sure if he projects better on the RT though in some reports but start him off at LT. Hooker just declared today, thought he might stay another year. He may be a top 15 pick also, would be a great in the 2nd. I am not big on Hodges as a 2nd RD pick, he lacks blocking and is more of a WR. He reminds me of Funchess that Carolina took. He would make a nice red zone target, so depends on if other TEs are available. I would think Leggett or Engram may be around at the top of the 3rd. Kaaya in the 3rd is fine, he was the early on top qb prospect. His inconsistancy under pressure hurts him, but is great with protection. With better coaching, he may be able to fix his issues. The Bears will obviously plug some of there biggest holes before the draft, which will give them freedom to take some talent we may not key in on. Hopefully Pace can repeat his 2016 class.
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Barkely might be our only option. Hate to see it, but it will either be him or Hoyer. Cutler is a slim possibility, but I think his door is closed here. It is ok to take a QB in the first and start him off holding the clip board and hopefully at some point get him under center before seasons end. The draft shouldn't be about day one starters, but about starters long term. QBs rarely are NFL ready and the way college football is now played it is harder to find one. They have to select a QB between picks 3-36, they are up against the wall. As for Joe Allen QB, I am sure by the next mock draft version it will be someone different, he is throwing a name out there and seeing what sticks.
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Watson has some good qualitys too, I envision him as Russell Wilson in a way with the ability to create plays with his legs and as leader. I am not sure he is a top 20 player though. All the QBs will be raw and not NFL ready imo, but eventually you need to develop one. It would be great to trade down to 10 and get Kizer or Joe Allen if he declares.
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It will be interesting come draft day. Having that QB need sucks because you can really add some great talent if you didn't have that glaring hole. If only Cutler could have matured his game to know what it takes to win.
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http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/26838...son-projections Matt Miller does pretty good work. He writes for bleacher report, is on the score once in a while and I follow his twitter. I am not sold on Josh Allen, but he says he is raw, has the tools to develop. He has Watson going to Buffalo and Kizer to Cleveland at 12. At #3, I would prefer to take Jon Allen DL, but understand the QB logic. 1-Josh Allen QB 2-Sydney Jones CB 3-JJ Shuster WR 4-Cole Hikutini TE 4-Jake Replogle DL 5-Jordan Willis OLB 7-Cole Croston OT
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I agree one QB has a chance to go, but look at this board and it seems most are against the Bears taking QB with the #3 pick. If that is the case, why would Cle or SF jump on a QB ahead of us? The Bears main focus point should be finding a long term solution at QB. The only way I see them not taking one at 3 is if Allen or Garrett are available.
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Bears take Allen? Matt Miller who does interesting work today released his new mock draft and has the Bears taking QB Josh Allen. I don't think he declared for the draft yet, a really don't know much on him.
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I agree Allen and Garrett are the top prizes to be had, good chance one slips. Cleveland is in a great place to get some top prospects and turn there franchise around. They will not take QB at #1 and have been linked to Garrett already. I do not see them trading up either with the 2nd 1st. They will stand pat and take one if they like there or ship that with a 4th to NE for Garapolo. San Fran is in a complete tear down and rebuild, some how, they have an abundance of picks again. The new GM will have QB high on his board, but will he pass on Allen? If they look to trade down, it may be to a team that would have a QB and wanting Allen. That leaves either Allen, the QB of choice, or hopefully a trade down. We may not be excited about the QB class, but come April they will be hot commodities. QBs always rise on draft boards and for a good reason.
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If the Bears want to turn the corner, they need to start a path and go with it. Without a QB they are only making circles. They should hire Mike McCoy to be the OC if he does get fired, re-sign AJ long term and draft offense. On Defense, they have some pieces and are respectable but can use a DE, CB, and S to take that step into top 10 talk. Sign the top dogs as a year or two patch like Calais Campbell DE, Eric Berry FS, and Trumaine Johnson CB. If there is still money, maybe make a run at Mevin Engram OLB also. Hoyer may make a decent veteran bridge QB so you have some experience there also. draft: 1. Deshone Kizer QB -has the size, athleticism, iq, and arm. If he had the same WR/oline as last year he would be a #1 prospect. 2. OJ Howard TE- top te who can block and stretch the field. Seems like a good tool to give a young QB to develop with. 3. Chad Wheeler OT- Great movement and nasty attitude. Keep building that oline 4. Cooper Kupp WR- good size with great hands, would make a nice safety blanket 4. Ryan Switzer WR-slot wr that can take on return duties also 5. RB that is a change of pace but also big enough to be durable and block If they get behind RB Howard and get off the bus running while the offense grows and the D is a strong point they may be an 8-8 or 9-7 team. Next draft invest heavy in D to fill in for the aging vets like Campbell, Freeman, and Berry and let them learn behind them one year. Who knows, if the team stays healthy and adds the right pieces can even be playoff worthy. I know not everyone is on board going QB this high but I think long term it can work out.
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I wish I seen that game. If he declares, he should be in the mix. I liked some earlier video on him. The biggest thing in my books on a QB prospect is how they lead and how they learn if they have the other tools you state. I don't want the Bears to have FOBO, when it comes to making a decision.
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It will probably come down to a QB or pass rusher if we cannot trade down. I have a feeling Kizer will end up our target. However the draft goes if we stay at #3, we will get the top DE, OLB, or QB.
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I think Garrett and Allen go 1 & 2. Cleveland has been open about their Garrett crush and SF may take Allen to bookend with Buckner (and Allen will rate the highest player by alot imo) or trade back a little and still go QB. That leaves the Bears looking at Fournette or Cook at RB who will be rated top 10. Peppers who won't fit the scheme. Then Derek Barnett OLB, Jamal Adams S or Humphrey CB who are all interesting. I really think the Bears go QB unless one of those top two to fall.
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I do know the Bears heavily scouted Kizer and he may be their pick. I can see trading back up into the bottom of a round to insure you get your guy, but not more. Luke Falk would have been a good 3rd RD pick worth trading into the bottom of the 2nd for, maybe that is why he is returning for another college season. One way or another, we need a starting caliber QB from hopefully this draft.
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I think they would take that also. You always have to throw your highest asking price out at the beginning.
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The Patriots have put a price on Jimmy G, seems a little steep to me. They are looking for a 1st and 4th; what do you think? https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/now-that-...-162636351.html
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Exactly my thought. If no QB is worthy of drafting Rounds 1 or 2, then do not draft one at all. They would be no different then what we currently have in Barkley, Shaw, or Fales. If this is the case, then the trade we should be making is for a FUTURE 1st RD pick in 2018'ss draft. Arizona: Round 1-11 = 1250pts, Round 2-43 = 470pts, Future 1st (equal to a 2nd) = 470-500 pts Total: 2190-2220 value Bears: Round 1-3 = 2200 value Draft: 1-10 Derek Barnett OLB Tenn 2-35 Cordrea Tankersly CB Clem 2-43 Budda Baker FS Was 3-67 Jordan Leggett TE Clem 4-100 Chad Wheeler OT USC 4-108 Malachi Dupree WR LSU 5-136 Julie'n Davenport OT Bucknell 7-245 Best ILB prospect:
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With 48-60 million, the Bears will be big spenders. I think the target fix this off season will be with the DBs. Dee Millner CB and Tony Jefferson SS would be two good pick ups. I would still consider Calais Campbell DE or Melvin Engram OLB to solidify the front pass rush also. Sign those 4 and the draft opens to a wide variety of options were we may be able to trade down a few slots and take Jamal Adams FS and gain enough ammo to get back into the first to grab a QB. Free agency will be a big part this offseason, wish I can see Paces wish list.
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Going off needs, QB and CB. Top 2 talent may be DE and OLB, so maybe we go there.
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I cannot say none of these guys are not franchise types yet. My intial thought is Trubisky looks the part, but I will wait until I start seeing final grades. Pace seems to know his QBs if reports are correct about him targeting Marriotta and Wentz with trying to trade up for them. If the Bears are serious about the position, round one is where you start the process. The top two may go before we pick, then you look further down.
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As much as I would love to see a premier defensive end or OLB added, QB should be the Bears top priority. Trubisky's name will be at the top of the board, but Clev and SF will be looking hard at him too. The Bears invested high in White and have a steal in Howard, it would be great to finalize the trifecta with a QB to go forward with.
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Miami beating Buffalo helps that second 4th round pick some also. Definitely need to get a QB after watching Barkley today.
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I like Humphrey, he is in my top 5 right now. As late round CBs go, Kevin King has been interesting too. Another late guy I liked is climbing Chidobe Awuzie, Colorado.