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The brass found something in Alan Williams behavior that deserved him being fired. They offered him to resign to save face. Not sure any organization is going to tell everybody what happened in real time. Does anyone have the exact information or is everyone just speculating? If it's a criminal offense that might come later, we still might get the story. Bears put a not to talk about it order so I'm sure the story won't be in a press release. I compare this to your (of age) son does something inappropriate and you don't say anything but have him move out of the house. For the Bears it's a catch 22 situation, you look bad no matter how you deal with it.

Something to think about. Viking are 0-3 with the leading sacker in the league, Danielle Hunter; top QB in passing yards, Kurt Cousins; Leading WR in the league, Jefferson. Kevin O'Connel was an OC from the Rams that won 12 games his first year. Its about changing the whole roster over 3-4 years, so Poles might still be on the right path, we just havent seen the results of that 3-4 year rebuild. Viking have everything we hope for and they are 0-3 also. Its a complicated formula to be a consistent winning team. As a long time Bears fan that has seen bad for most my fandom, i need to find patience for 1 more year. Dont know how I will do that at this moment in time.

Washington just lost 37-3 with Sam Howell going 19/29 170 yards and 4 ints. Is he the answer? Terry Bradshaw needs to retire and go away, his time has passed.

Im a retied plumber, is anyone else in here a plumber? Adam are you? Im the person that always looks for the silver lining. The problem is , I dont see one right now. Is the silver lining getting 2 top 5 picks and we draft Caleb Williams and Marvin Harrison Jr ? Or Jon Alt (LT)? Was there any coach we could have hired that would have had different results? Sean Payton was hired by Denver and they just lost 70-20. I think we are stuck in LaLa land with complete makeover of the roster. I dont think whoever we brought in would have had us a wining team right now. Last year with the worst roster in the league we played well enough to be in 11 games and won 3. The sad reality is it will take 3-4 years to show results of 3 drafts to turn this around. Had Poles not traded the second pick the next 4 WRs drafted were Mingo-Jayden Reed-Rashed Rice-Marvin Mins. Would any have them made us a winner right now? If we took Carter instead of Wright with our first pick , we may have a better DL but the OL would be in worst shape than right now. The point Im trying to make is this team would have been bad no matter who we drafted. The one key to have a better future would have been a better coach than Flus but no way we are a winning team , so we have to continue to suffer this year. If we dont turn it around Flus will be fired and Warren and Poles ( not going anywhere) will make a new hire with 2 first round picks. We dont know yet if that will be better.

Poles is running the everyday show, not sure he fires himself. If this continues, I can see him firing Flus but it would probably be over the bye week and then who takes over? It would probably be Getsy, is that an upgrade? No one on the staff has been a HC before. Warren could step in but he is not bringing in new coaches 3 games into the season. If they finish the season with 5 or 6 wins (5-9) or (6-8) the rest of the way, do they keep Flus? Is that enough progress?

The world is predicting a mega blowout against the Bears, I almost think I am forced to take the Bears and the points. History tells us that games never go as predicted. 27-24 KC

The story is going to turn ugly, instead of supporting Williams going out the door, the Bears are in lockdown to not talk about. That's very strange.

This year Poles will see if Fields is a franchise QB. There is still time to figure that out. The good thing is , if it doesnt work out we have 2 first round picks to get a new one. I wish Justin well but it could easily fail and remind myself we are still early in a Poles remake of the roster.

Cris Emma from the SCORE mentioned it in an interview and seen two people note it on a few X accounts. It very well could not be true but when I see it mentioned serval times ,I assume it is. but you may be right I seen many people say Williams house was raided and that wasnt true. It seems like when two friends say goodbye something like that is normal behavior. If you have the Audcy app you can go back and listen to Score segments. I think it was when Grote was on before a Cubs game.

Anyone watch the game last night? Lots of horizonal plays for the 49ers. The difference was they made plays that we are not making.

Yes to your opinions but 2 games is just a small sample size to make long term decisions, its just isnt trending well right now. Plenty of time to right the ship.

They have started well in both games but penalties , missed blocks, bad decisions have derailed them from drives and like PHX said defense is on the field to long and fatigue sets in and things blow up. Once they go back to the run and simplify the offense we will see better results. If they avoid TOs it will keep us in games.

It is a strange situation when a team has lockdown orders to not speak about Williams. Clearly something bad is going on for a lawyer to speak with guarded words. It is probably under some kind of investigation that results have yet to surface. When people mention raid that would mean they have concrete evidence but that would already be public knowledge. Lots of speculation with people just thinking they know what's going on. In time it will surface but one thing happened when Flus met with Alan on his way out the door, they hugged and Flus teared up. Several journalists stated that. Not good vibes.

Agree with all of that.

I'm not sure they want to answer on behalf of Williams. Not sure because they didn't mention it means it happened. I refer to his lawyer that spoke publicly on several interviews that stated no raid occurred. The only way to verify a raid at his home is with a local police or a FBI report. No one can produce that. I spent an hour trying to find out what city he lives in to check that and couldn't find that information. Don't think it happened.

There is also a disclaimer at the end of his show so they dont get sued. His source is X accounts that have no source. I think there is more to the story but I dont think its from a raid.

You know I hope you're wrong but you probably are spot on. Mahomes is the bomb but they dont have any difference makers in the WR room. Also they dont have a good running game. Crossing my fingers.

Time will tell who is worth keeping and who will move on in the future. I understand that some of his reps need to be from the pocket but they need to roll him out and have simpler reads mixed in. I guess this is their way of developing a QB . I think this week will look much different. Everyone needs to do better.

Everyone here is making good points, prey they see what we see.

I agree the bears have a history of odd behavior but George had turned over the franchise to Warren-Poles-Cunningham then it trickles down to the coaches. we need to critize the new regime for this. Let it play out and then start throwing darts.

We are in our second year, 2 games into a 3-4 year rebuild, am I wrong to think Poles should at least get a pass until next year's draft? I realize he has made some mistakes but its about the endgame next year not the, fire his ass now verbiage. The great Shanahan, traded 3 first round picks for a failed QB and everyone praises him because he has built a winning team. he did not do that in 19 games. In his first year in SF he went 6-10. He started 0-9 to begin the season. In 2018 he went 1-7 at the beginning of the year and finished 5-12. I get he had a good track record going in but he was given time to build a winner. Poles cant get past 19 games?

I think they are trying to grow him into a more prolific passer and why the stay in the pocket verbiage. Its obvious not working so they go back to playing up to Justin's strengths. I think they all get on the same page and present a better product on the field. https://x.com/danwiederer/status/1704847789866307971?s=20

Until we see how this plays out on the OL and how they play Sunday, this is going to a doom and gloom week leading up to the game. Is all of this going on going to create a ( rally the troops) kind of game and they look good Sunday? Probably not . I dont think there will be signing at OT that is going to come in and save the day.

It seems like Williams went to Flus last week and told him he had some problems at home and needed to go home. The lack of communications started between Williams and Flus . Didnt get better when he told Poles. I think Flus was trying to be protective with his 6 year friend and was vague with the brass at that point. So the story got lost in transition from there. Williams has 3 boys that are probably teenagers' ( couldnt find that information) . He's 53 so I am speculating on that. Could something have happened with one of his kids and that's why all the secrecy? I know if there was a issue with one of my children I wouldnt want to tell the world about it. So Alan himself doesnt have a criminal issue but maybe something is going on with one of his children? The bears lost two in a row, and the LT occurs an injury that no one was aware of so everything hits the news on the same day. It turns into a bizarre news day. All speculation on my part.

They moved OT Avante Collins to the 53 man roster and added OT Austen Pleasants to the practice squard.