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I've beenwatching hours of tape on him and he could be literally generational talent. My only concern is wanting to be treated special and how that translates to the NFL. As a rookie, he more than likely needs time to get up to speed. DCs will design defenses to counter him, great players everywhere and the fan base will be brutal if he takes a few years to develop. Does he have the stomach to handle that?

No matter what happens at the QB spot. Caleb, Derek, Jaylon , JJ or Justin great things are happening with the Bears. Jump in with your opinions we welcome new voices here.

That's going to happen very soon and we can all relax and enjoy the wins coming this year.

He's been playing with it for two years. To his defense, he offered Joe Noteboom and Brian Allen a contract in his first year and tried to get Bates, failed on all accounts. Drafted Braxton Jones. His backup plans didn't work out.

Adjusted cap space is 38 mil after the rookie pool and in year money.

If Kap is your example of proper behavior, you may want to look at other videos he has out there. I can send you 40 videos of football people suggesting we keep Fields but that would be wasted time. You're not changing your mind and I'm not changing mine. When Poles makes his choices, I will move on from Fields. If he chooses Fields we will hear about Williams every week because you won't accept it. If he chooses Williams, I'll be all in on that. If we draft Williams, I hope you're right about everything, I don't need to do that while I still have the opportunity to have a different opinion. It's getting closer to not having an argument anymore.

Poles will answer lots of questions by the decision he makes. If he drafts Williams or a different QB, I'm all in in that. He is fully venting his choices fans and writers don't.

Finally, we have common ground. I totally respect your opinion with the keep no keep Justin. It's your condescending and disrespectful attitude because someone doesn't agree wit you . People aren't ganging up on you, they just don't like you telling them their a cult, stupid, silly. .Just stop getting personal. People know you can't stand me, I wouldn't be comfortable if you did, you don't have to keep bringing me up every time someone doesn't like your disrespect them. Odds of Justin being here are slim but still an option on the table. Until he's traded or the first pick is traded it's a heated topic. Its not just here but every where,. Great things going with the bears right now, let's enjoy that.

On a lighter note, Justin Simmons got released by Denver. There are a lot of good safeties available , who can we get for a 10 mil type of deal? He's not over paying for anyyone.

The NFL is a composite of huge egos and JJ having a great year pushed him up the ladder. He's on the SCORE weekly during the season and he's a good guy, he signed because it's a good deal and players are realizing Poles won't over pay. Plus he wanted to be here, on to the next story.

If we're going to have peace on here, stop bringing my name up every time you have to defend your remarks.

In the last 20 years only Peyton Manning has won a SB as a elite prospect. That's not chump change . . It's a little hard to pretend that's a random stat. The morale of the story , more have been busts than great with the first pick of the draft. Not to say you can't get a good QB there but it's not set in stone.

Very fair deal for both. We knew Poles wasn't setting the market with JJ, to many nagging injuries and only TOs came this year. That's a good sign he's going to try to win this year instead of pushing the wins down the road. We have to keep in mind they project the cap to go up by 50 mil next year. The QB money is pushing cap up every year.

Totally disagree, he has made progress. In the last 7 games , he was the 14 th rated QB in the league. Not saying he's all of a sudden, very good but he's not even close to Zach Wilson.

F3 AA I'm not big on picking specific stats to push a narrative but just thought this was interesting with so many people calling Caleb generational. Simply put, A history of not winning SBs . one in 20 years is not a wishy wash statistic. I think it says more about the analysis process putting labels on QBs. Brady was a 6th round pick that became the best QB ever and Mahones was the third QB taken in his draft. I think they are just hard to find and hard to win SBs.

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Seen this on Twitter. Brady and Mahomes were never considered generational. Who ? Andrew luck - no Trevor Lawrence - no Joe Burrows - no Eli Manning was never stated to be generational Aaron Rodgers was never called generational Russell Wilson was never considered generational Matt Stafford wasn't Can anyone think of somebody? Maybe Peyton Manning, was he considered generational? In the last 20 years only Manning won one SB that was considered a generational prospect.

If they draft a QB and sit for a year, they will just keep Justin. Poles isn't going to wreak the culture he has built for a QB vet . This has nothing to do with the argument who is better. Drafting a QB and keeping Justin for another year affects nothing but you bring in a different QB to have for the year? Totally will lose the team morale. Whether Wilson is better or not, no one on the team supports that. IMO

Rd ð That's interesting, someone wants to pay Wilson but Justin cost to much to keep for one more year . I'm all in on grabbing a QB and having him sit for a year and having ( logical choice) Justin play here one more year. That's what u think is going to happen.

Seriously? Look up the definition of turd, that's not even debatable. So I can't cheer for Caleb because I May think Justin ( could ) get better as a QB,and like his intangibles? If you have ever seen the movie ( The World according To Garp ) you know what it's like having you on this website. You try to control everything. All anyone has to do is to look at your responses to when people disagree with you and it explains itself. You think you get to say anything but if people respond to it , their starting trouble. How do you know what I say when you have ignored my posts?

Administrators can do anything they deem necessary to keep peace on here. I'm all in on having a passionate yet non chaotic place for discussion. Just disagreement is no reason to have conflict. I never tell people what to think, will just agree or disagree. Everyone has a right to their opinions.

Seen and article by Aaron lemming on cap space after in season spending and rookie costs we have 39 mil for FA. That's effective cap space. Forget the big money deals that was JJ.

Thank you for clarification, Justin is a piece of shit Justin is a turd. I'm a plumber, I got the terms confused.

If they take a QB that only leaves 2 high picks to look for starters. The fourth rounders could contribute but not expected. He's trading the first pick and probably both.

Lets just look at him as a vet backup and 4 mil is the going rate for that type of player. He can play several positions. Poles is not done with the center position. Doubt we ever get to draft JPJ but maybe Zach Frazier. Brian Allen was released but has injuries concern, maybe he brings him in with Bates as the backup plan.