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Good watch, glad we have some positive posts to go along with worlds collided Wednesday.

The problem is they came out of the box with 2 loses and then everything that happens is blown up. Davis story-Claypool issue-Williams leaving- Justin not running. Most people predicted them to be bad anywhere from 5-8 wins and now everyone is surprised. I think by mid season we will have some wins and things will die down.

I think the organization was respecting his personal life. Its up to him to tell media if it becomes a story. Everyone got on Davis for being lazy and then his mother was dying , then died. Its not a law that sports teams have to report on personal issues of their employees. I admire that they dont. The lawyer is Chicago based and was friends with his agent ,when all this (its a criminal nature ) came out he addressed the media that its not true. All of that seems logical to me. PHX can you show the media story of the raid that happened? I read the Tribune everyday and I cant find that story.

Can you copy and post that story, his lawyer is on the SCORE right now. He said he has health and personal issues and the team have been respecting his personal life. It's not a legal issue. All of this according to his lawyer.

I'm going to defend the regime a bit. They don't plan injuries, Jenkins and Jones are out. They said Nate Davis is back this week. It will be Borom or they said JaTre Carter could play there, he was a left tackle in college. It's a mess but we'll see how they handle it. I suspect there will be a lot of power runs and Justin running more. Easier to run block than pass block.

No one raided anything. I jumped on Toney being cut the next day and was wrong. X is a bad source to find news and we just need to wait for the true story.

It's official, he resigned. No details yet. Seen !mentioned health issue. Someone seem Flus hugging I'm and tearing up. They were also friends besides coaching together.

We don't know what exactly has happened. Some writers are blowing this story up. There was no police at Halas Hall today. Williams has a health issue.

I think if he doesnt show the proper improvement, they will draft a QB and work out some kind of draft day trade. No way they draft another QB and keep him on the roster. I know its wishful thinking but at some point they will see what they have in Bagent and he will be the backup next year. If it ends up being a Brock Purdy situation, it may be a different story.

So lets say Fields doesnt get better, what trade capital will he bring? I would say it would be draft day and what draft pick? There will be several coaches that will think they can fix him. Does someone give us a #1-#2?

Dan Campbell was 3-13-1 in 2021 and went 1-6 coming out of the gate last year. I dont remember, did Lions fans call for blood at that time? They had more draft capital because they were so bad for a long time. The lions are now considered a up and coming playoff contender. I think I can say safely that every situation is different . Poles came here with the worst roster in the league and a terrible cap space . We didnt have a first round pick and had serval over paid vets on the team. Unfortunately when you're losing everyone gets hammered and everyone deserves some blame for a poor record . I am sticking up for Poles at this time because he never promised a rose garden 19 games into a rebuild. He said 3-4 years to completely change the roster. It is clear to see Flus doesnt have a quality roster yet.. He said he wanted to rebuild the roster thru the draft 2022- Brisker-Blackwell-Gordon-Carter-Gill-Hicks-B Jones-J Jones-V Jones-D Robinson-Sanborn Kramer 2023-Bagent-Dexter-Q Johnson-R Johnson-Pickens-Scott-Sewell- Stevenson-Wright Didn't put anyone on the practice squad on this list. At this point it looks like the Claypool trade and V Jones were mistakes but actually the jury is still out. He hired Flus and whether that works out is still up in the air. There is still lots of questions but Flus has yet to get a stellar amount of talent to work with yet. The key will be if young players get better and we start to win more games. He will get this year to right the ship. Last year a lot of people were worried that we might lose Getsy because of? The jury is still out and clearly has blame . This is something that could be changed in season but I dont think we are there yet.

Good coaches don't call their players out in public, like AZ said you do that in private. A good way to lose your team is call them out to the press.

I don't remember it was so long ago but were we in both games until TOs turned into points for the other team? It may not, be as bad as the final score showed. Does anyone think we played better in this game than the first? I realize it was still a loss but can you lose and still play a little better? I think so. If we go 0-3 and then go 6-8 or get a lucky 7-7, are we growing as a team? As Adam said Justin is on a pace to get over3600 yards passing and DJ Moore is on pace to be a around a 1000 yard WR. Are we a better team?

I always say PFF is just a tool to help measure a persons worth. It's like saying 4.4 speed guy is slow and then you watch him outrun a 4.3 guy that is faster. I just watched the slower guy win a run to the end zone. The eyes can speak to.

Its called compassion, not about the size of your hammer.

He finished last year on a high note playing well the last 5 games and started strong but a broken hand got in the way. Rookies rarely play consistently until playing against NFL players slows down for them . He will be just fine, at least he didnt have a knee or leg injury that would slow his speed down.

See you are an optimist, you said (when Carolina loses).

That's fair for a pessimist.

I rewatched the game and Justin did well with the scripted plays and then was getting pressured or WRs not doing their job going forward. They all get blame. Here is all his dropbacks for those of you with X accounts. https://x.com/GBraggsJr23/status/1703624151645250014?s=20

Its nice to dream that's why I play FF.(so I can pretend I'm smart). X and sports radio today are having Bears doomsday . Poles is in his second year of a 3-4 year rebuild of the worse roster of 2022, plus cap hell. I dont remember him saying we were going to the playoffs or be a SB contender 19 games into a 51 game rebuild. He said this is year 2 of a 3-4 year rebuild and he has more work to do. He didnt lie to us. Yes he will make a few mistakes along the way but will that matter if we end up being a winning team for several years in a row. Experts predicted any where from worse team in the league to 10- 11 wins (me). If we end up with 5-9 wins , will any of that be progress ? A win is if we find out for sure if Justin is that superman or a bust. He has the draft capital to draft a new one. A win is if the new players get better as the year goes on. A win is if DJ Moore, Nate Davis, and Edmunds are the players we thought they were. A win is if we have 6-7-8-9 wins in a season. We are not going 0-17. Its a little premature to fire GM,HC,OC,DC, and Justin Fields. I was doomsday man yesterday but today I stand with more patience.

For all the good things Shanahan has done ,he has a Claypool incident, it cost us a second, it cost him 3 first round picks. Everyone screws up, its about the endgame. Maybe we fail but maybe we end up being s long standing winning team that is 19 games into a 51 game rebuild. We will see.

You hammer me in Talkbears FF league and then try to present yourself as a nice guy? Im not buying it.

Here is a experts take on Fields-game 2.

Is it fair to say I like being an optimist compared to actual thinking we could be 0-17. You say maybe 5 wins and right now I think 8-9 is still possible. I sleep well at night, how are you sleeping these days?

Our choices right now are : let Fields play it out until the bye week and if he shows no progress ,play Bagent and see what he has ( see Prudy) or draft our QB next year. Anyway it goes we have the draft capital to have a win. YR 2 in a rebuild.