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Totally agree .

Lots of factors go into teams that win SBs. 2023 SB, great QB, great coach, above average talent. 2022 SB, good QB, great coach, above average talent. Anyone can say they won the SB because of a great QB but they also had great coaches and above average talent. Herbert is considered an elite QB , has he even been to the playoffs? Josh Allen is considered an elite and hasnt been in a SB yet. We dont have a great coach and a roster being built. If you know an elite QB is in the draft then it would be dumb not to take him but who is he? Williams, Maye ? Zach Wilson and Trey Lance were top 5 picks, they arent even starting QBs in the league. #1 we have to get the one of the top 2 picks to even consider that. #2 one of these QBs need to an elite, that's up to Poles to decide that #3 we do not have an elite coach #4 need a above average roster, we are not there yet. I think Poles will make the right decisions, its just sports talk until the end of the season to have any realistic opinion on our future. 5 games away. If we lose 5 games, its set in stone what to do, but what if we win out, the conversation changes.

From year to year, different QBs have good and bad years. Goff, Cousins, Stafford, Prescott, Murray, are 2 nd tier QBs that have had good years. 1 st tier for now are Mahomes Allen, Herbert, Jackson are e!ite now. Hurts, Lawrence, Tua are trending that way but not there yet. Who did I miss?

Winning is the ultimate measure of success and many things figure in to that scenario. Good coaching, team talent, and a good QB come into to play. The top 8 teams in the league right now starting QBs. Phil- pick 53 Balt-pick 32 Dallas- pick 135 Detriot-pick 1 Miami- pick 5 SF-pick 232 Jaguars-pick 1 KC-pick 10 Of these QBs only 2 were #1, 3 more were first round, 6 were 32 or later. Goff is not considered elite, Lawrence has yet to be given that status. You can find stats to make any point you want. More QBs are picked high because of the nature of the position , other rounds are never taken with the concept of being elite. If we go by the success rate of first round QBs then we probably should keep Fields, he was pick # 11. We should also pick a QB with one of our first round picks. Why not do both?

You the man.

Did you find a list of first round picks that failed? I'll try to find a list.

When I say draft a QB, I'm not referring in the first round, that would say you want to move on from Fields. I think we trade back with the top pick and get a 2nd rounder to consider one prospect that clears the first round run on QBs. There could be a later pick that may have upside. Pratt, Ward, Milton, Sanders, a lot of other choices. When Purdy, Browning look like NFL QBs and people like Cousins, Hurts , Prescott, Wilson , Carr were not drafted in the first round, it's a possibility.

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If i remember doesnt Goff play bad in cold weather? just saying, he's not at home and it will be cold.

I've been saying that for some time. Hedge your bet on Fields and also develop a QB in the process. I think that is the best situation for us to win going forward. Fields is smart and has a great attitude , no way his ego is crushed if you bring in another QB to compete. It may help him to become a better QB.

Jake Browning had a great game. Went undrafted in 2019. This year is his first year on a roster. A player that worked hard and got better . QBs can be found other than the first round. Also giving time to grow can play at a high level . These are reasons you stick with a player and also don't use a #1 pick on a draft. This year we can go with Justin one more year and also draft a prospect. Hell Bagent may be that surprise player in a few years. Never count out players that work hard and have a desire to be great. The more shots you have a shot at the brass ring , the better the chance you get a winner. IMO Anyone that likes Browning , he is a FA this year, he would probably love a team that has questions at QB, where he does have the chance to start. That's not in Cincinnati .

Seen this on X, what an idiot.

Lawrence now hurt, 7 starters out for the year, Trevor doesnt look good. I think we need to have another QB in the wings with a rookie draftee plus Fields and throw in Bagent. Never enough QBs.

I think our best option is what you suggest, if Fields fails ,you have his replacement in waiting. You always trade one or the other depending on success in 2024 or 25.

I forgot about Sanders , I think Williams has the highest ceiling but also the highest bust rate. Intangibles matter, would rather take a risk on a lower talent than have a first pick bust.

First, I wouldn't pay Young, to much of a injury risk plus don't think Poles ties that much money in DL. More so to draft one.

QBs ( after the first 2 ) could go in any order. It just depends on the team. Someone choose Young over Stroud, someone choose Wilson, Lance over Fields, its amazing how GMs view prospects and fail. My order of preference is Daniels, Maye, McCarthy, Penix and Nix, in that order.

The no call pass interference at the end of the game was fireable. 35 was dancing with Chiefs WR.

Ross Tucker was on the SCORE this morning and he made a lot of sense. What you do in the past counts but people go by your last impressions that gets their attention. If Fields plays well 3 or 4 games ,he thinks he probably stays and if Flus wins 4 or 5 games, he probably stays. He personally thinks Fields is back with a new coach. We are a( what have you done for me lately) society.

It's a crap shoot with QBs if you go by recent history. Penix would be a good prospect but probably not a first round pick. If we trade back and get a 2nd round pick in return maybe a QB they consider. I still think the double down on QBs is our best option for success. I think Maye, Williams, Daniels and McCarthy are the first round picks. Nix, Ewers, and Penix are the wild cards. Late first or early second. We could take a prospect there.

The problem with officials. cheating can be offset by the review booth and other officials on the field. That would be difficult. I think it's just incompetent refs.

I think if we trade out of our first pick, Bowers pick comes into play. With 2 TE sets that's only 2 WRs on the field but would be a nightmare to defend. At the top of the draft 2 Qbs, 2 LTs and MHJ. After that Bowers is the most likely choice. I think Braxton Jones is playing well enough to not take a OT. Edge or 3 T come into play if we drop back in the top 10 picks.

Next week will be key. Arguably the best team we play and then it's one game at a time. It's strange that we could even be talking about this after a 0-4 start. If we finish 8-9 or 9-8, the whole narrative about changing coaches and QB will change. That would mean both did something special.

I've heard that saying before, my dad came from Croatia . You're not Slavic are you?

If we end up with 8 or 9 wins, that is quite a turn around for a 0-4 start. I know that's dreaming but nobody we play are world beaters.