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Do you guys think Washington tags him? They have to try to get a QB, their paying Jonathan Allen 21 mil in 2023, and only have 7.3 mil in cap space. I think he will be available.
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I just read that 100 players were drafted that was in the senior Bowl last year.
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I'll try to find it on YouTube, I think you have to have a Twitter account to open.
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The Bears have already been meeting with players. From the Hula bowl Jordan Ferguson/ edge Justin Ford/CB Got this information from Eric Kramer so I hope it's accurate
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More importantly I think Flus and Poles likes him. With lots of choices in free agency, it will drive Montys price down. He a team leader, hard worker, and brings physically to the offense. I think we led the league in rushing, not sure we need to change anything. Yes a Pollard or Barkley would bring more to the table but I think he invests cap money in both the O and D lines not in the RB position. Bring a late round pick to compete with Ebner. Plus I suspect the development of Velus will add to the running game also. If Monty leaves its because someone offers him more money that Poles. I suspect it will be the 6-7 range per year.
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It may move some players up on our board a few rounds but definitely Killa is spot on.
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Jones ended up being an equal option for much less. I would say Poles expected more than he got either way. If you look at comparable players in the NFL, Jones is a good player, just not a difference maker.
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Whoever takes care of this site does a great job running it. I've been on here for 13 years and can only remember a couple of outages.
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To be fair, Cine injury wasn't planned, and most rookies don't shine in the first year. Its an incomplete but it does say a lot about Poles getting 5 starters out of his first draft with no first rounders.
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I don't remember all the years since the late 1960s when I started watching the Bears but is this the first tear it down rebuild I've seen? I think everything else was reload on the fly? Maybe when Finks first got here. I do know this is the first time I watched them develop a QB.
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Poles created a lucrative cap situation and put us in the position to get the first pick in the draft by making the defense terrible. Brisket is going to be an all pro one day. Poles obtained Sanborn to replace Smith w/o loss of production for under 1 mil. We have picks to improve this situation.
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Rodriquez is probably not an option but I loved watching him run over people. One run in the Georgia game had 6 broken tackles. Doesn't have the speed or pass catching ability. But as a 3rd RB for short yardage situations? Chase Brown is a complete RB that could fit our system. 4.42 speed Devon Archane would be my favorite pick but probably a 3rd round pick which isn't where we will be drafting one. 4.24 speed, kind of a Tarek Cohen type, not lead back.
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I think he keeps Monty but if he moves on , several good RBs in mid rounds. Chase Brown, Chris Rodriquez, Kenny McIntosh, Duece Vaugh. Watch tape on Rodriguez from Kentucky, he's impressive.
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I agree, he doesn't make enough wow plays to merit being the highest paid off LB. If Sanborn plays the whole yr, I think his stats will be similar to Roquan at under 1 mil. I think Poles knows what he's doing around a draft table. He got 5 starters out of his first draft W/O a first round pick.
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Is there problems with the website or is it me because I'm in Thailand? It's happened several times.
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Last year we needed OL and WR and Poles drafted two DBs. At the top of the draft are 2 DTs and several Edge rushers. I think the first pick will fall there if BPA is still Poles style. If we trade out of top top 6 that could change. Free agency comes before the draft, who he grabs there will affect his first pick. DE and WR are weak in FA.
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I was thinking if we get the daily double ( two trades) we should make them throw in players. Trade with Houston, make them add Keynon Green/LG, he was the highest rated OG in the draft last year, picked at 15_in first round. That means we could move on from Whitehair at cheaper money with big upside. Trade with Indy and have them throw in Alex Pierce/ WR, young , fast and cheap for a few years. High upside.
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Both QBs were drafted in 2020. Last year the Jaguars had the second most money in FAgency to spend. They had picks, 1--20--65--70 took edge Travon Walker, LB Devin Lloyd, OC Luke Fortner, LB Chad Muma. In Free Agency : Brandon Scheff (all pro OG), Oluokun ( ( leading tackler in 2021 NFL), Fatukasi/ DT (above average), Kirk/ WR ( high #2 ), Zay Jones/ WR, Evan Engram/ TE. They needed to rebuild their OL and WR, add playmaker. Sound familiar? They added 2 starters on their OL and Kirk, Jones and Engram. We have more work on defense but offensively we have already started with bringing in Claypool in the mix. The key will be what Poles does on the OL. Engram is a FA , so we can have him if we want. I doubt they let him leave , he helped turn them around. The last two years, Engram had 119-1174-7. The last two years Kmet 110-1156-7. We have our TE. Kirk got paid 17 mil but I don't think anyone considers him a #1 even thou he had 84-1108-8. Both Mooney and Kirk had similar numbers in 2021. I think Mooney could have similar numbers next year. They made the playoffs this year in a lousy division. Our road will be harder but we could win more than we lose next year. 9-8.
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I've been watching all the film on Pittman and Pierce I could find. Pittman has better hands but they are similar players. Pierce is faster and young. Pittman will be 26 in his last yr of contract. OTC has his value at around 15 mil. I think Poles would ask for Pierce in a deal because Pittman would give him another WR contract he would have to deal with this yr. Pittman was rated higher coming out 4.52 speed and good hands but Pierce has upside. I doubt Indy would throw in 2 high level players, but I would ask for Kenny Moore, productive, knows Flus system already NC.
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There are things about PFF that bother me but they are a site that you can use to compare players. In a couple of categories, Jones was the 12th rated OT in the league. Also ESPN has some run and pass win rates, where he was top 6 in both categories. Compared to first round rookie OTs , they all had some struggles. Poles is going with him for another year and I think he will improve. He literally played every snap, in these days that's rare. Jenkins still has health questions, so pencil him in but Poles will add a backup plan to cover if he fails. Don't know anything about Kramer at OC but Poles must think he has something to offer. He adds 2 vets and one high draft pick and sorts out the top 5 from there.
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Step one who do we extend ( current players on the roster)
Stinger226 replied to Stinger226's topic in Bearstalk
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Poles is going to address who he wants to keep before going into free agency. David Montgomery Poles already said he loves what he brings to the team: work ethic, leadership, toughness. Because of a gluten of RBs, he'll sign for a team friendly deal. Say 4- 27 mil with 14 guaranteed / last year void able. Essentially 3- 20 mi Cole Kmet. Poles called him a blue chip player say 4- 37 mil 16 guaranteed He brings back DHC 2- 5 mil Tevor Wesco - vet minimum Josh Blackwell - vet minimum Armon Watts- vet minimum Byron Pringle- 3 mil with no guarantee_( will let him prove himself)