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Highlights film can be misleading. I think you first use the stats of the players to gage what they are. Productive players would at least tell you of their consistent play. Sanborn led Wisc in tackles with other quality LBers on the team. He was rated to be around a 5th round pick but got lost in the draft transition. If he was drafted in the fifth would we think differently of his ability to start. Since the SAM LB only sees 30% of the snaps, he doesnt need to be a blue chip player. Strong against the run and some coverage ability of which he seems to have. Our options at SAM are Caleb Johnson, L. Mack, C. Snowden and Sanborn. I think they have their starter already on the team as to bringing in another vet. Also they brought in a Matt Adams who would have to fit somewhere but more of a ST player.

I think the age thing is being to scrutinized. Obviously you've more mature at 25 instead of 22 but it only matters in service time. 7 yrs instead of 10. He was under used as a WR until he went to Tennessee. The WRs at USC while Jones was there, Michael Pittman, Drake London, Amon Ra-St Brown, JuJu Smith Schuster. That's a tough group to try to get reps from. Just a note, Devin Hester was 24 when he entered the NFL. He has skills he showed being all conference STs player of the year in both the Pac 10 and SEC. He is a physical clone to Deebo Samuel and is compared to being able to run and catch passes. His route tree is limited but so was Deebo when he came out but produced right away. His skills translate into being used in screens, jet sweeps, out route, slants, reverses, and go routes. He is much faster than Deebo 4.31 to 4.48. I think they envision him for what he is capable of doing over what other coaches used him for. In football terms, he's a boom or bust prospect. I think he was more of a 4 th round value than in third but never got a trade to slide down to the 4th so they took him there. They clearly targeted him over other WRs left on the board , since they valued speed. If he had been a 4th or 5th round pick, he won't be talked about as much. In the first place , the first 3 picks you needed starters over players that needed development. They did that. Pringle can play on the outside while they slide him into the slot, so you have your 3 starters. If he gets 50 catches for 640 yds with 250 yrs rushing and 8 TDs , we have a winner.

In Indys defense last yr. The MLB, WLB, Slot Corner, 3T tackle were the top tacklers on the team. The starting SAM on the team was Zaire Franklin and he only saw the field 18% of the time. Even without a clear starter designated at SAM, the rotational 3 T is the weakest spot on the defense. As a team they only had 33 sacks. Buckner led at 7, Al-Q Muhammad was second with 6 and another DE had 4 , Kwity Paye. If Ogunjobi does come back here , our weakness disappears, otherwise Jones only had 3 sacks last year. Even if he ascends, 6-7 sacks is all you could hope for. Flus has never had this kind of talent in the pass rush. Quinn, Gibson, Al-Q Muhammad and hopefully Ogunjobi, if he comes back. I can see Jones sliding over to the NT starter if Ogunjobi does come back, at least they gives you some pass rush ability at that spot.

Poles said they really won't be able to evaluate the OL until they get them in pads. So LT has Borom, Davenport, and Braxton Jones as our options. They could also move Jenkins back there. RG has Dozier, Mustifer, Thomas and Ja'Tre Carter. So if they bring in anyone it will be at RG. Actually Daryl Williams could play both OT spots and RG if he had to. So he might be the best option because of his flexibility. What they have to do is bring in a X WR. Who out there that has better potential than St Brown? Landry and Beasley are Slot WRs..TY Hilton and Will Fuller are the best options . I wouldn't trust Fuller to stay healthy. So do you want St Brown or TY Hilton.I would just go with St Brown. We need a better option at 3T , Jones and Edwards or Sam Kamara. Who ? I would say they bring Ogunjobi back, he hasn't taken any visits to other teams, so maybe it's already been stated. I think the SAM LB is already on the roster. Johnson or Sanborn. Maybe Mack or Snowden can play there.

A few tidbits I picked up on . Velus Jones has did KRs every where he went. In his career he never had a fumble or muffed punt. That's unbelievable. Never missed any games due to injury. Brisker and Gordon didnt have a penality both of the last two yrs. Between the two , only gave up one TD in the last few yrs. C J Avery-Jack Sanborn and Jaylan Alexander all lead their teams in tackles in 2021.

Cliff has always done a good job but wasnt good enough for Pace. I could never figure that out. Maybe Pace wanted more control over the money.

I think Poles throws darts at the board, and see what sticks. The more darts the better.

As we saw the last few years, player development was sketchy at best I think Fluxes has coaches that value player development. They had a couple of gems on the Colts D that shows that. I think one of the 4 OL ends being a starter this year. It may not be day one but he drafted with upside. Also don't forget the punter show win that job.

Pringle has lined outside before so they will put him out there. Jones Jr, in the slot with Mooney and Pringle out side.

I'm not sure I had this optimism with Pace and when Nagy came here. Pace always talked a good draft but constantly giving up draft picks to move up. Also never addressed OL as much as he should have. Said he was drafting a QB every year and didn't do it . Whether it works out or not, I like the way he's doing it even though I wanted offense early and often. Not paying out big contracts, taking possible ascending players. Seems old school but like it that way.

If we end up getting Ogunjobi back the only spot left to fill is SAM LB spot. Could already be on roster. UDFA Jack Sanborn . Led a Badger team in tackles. Solid player. This definitely would be a better D than last year, even thou Hicks and Mack were on team, injuries affected their play.

Monty is a good football player, not a star but a blue collar fight every step of the way player. They will offer him a team friendly deal, if he moves on, Herbert and Ebner are better fits in this offense anyway.

I like your take on the prospects and will say about Jones, he is limited as a WR as far as route tree but giving him 10 to 12 touches a game will show big on film. Jet sweeps and screens. The go route, slants , and catching swing passes , he will kill people. As soon as they see his speed and have to give him room, you have him do curls all day. Why he would be good for Fields, other the go route, those are all quick passes, Fields doesn't need to think about them just 3 steps and throw. Flus was excited to get him, they targeted him, they have a plan for him. Just watch some Deebo Samuel tape, it will show you how their going to use him.

I love Monty, fights for every yard, can catch the ball well. I've been watching tape on Tristan Ebner and he's got game. If people got hurt , would have no problem him being our #1 for a few games. He can play, reminds me of T. Cohen on his skat type running. They say he is 4.42 40 guy but looks faster on film. He could beat out Evans as the third back. On film all he does is run away from people.

30% of NFL rosters last year were UDFAs. I think we keep 53 players and 12 on the practice squad. So 30% of 65 is 18 UDFAs. Ill start and add as I look at tape. For arguments sake I'll say 12 do. Players that make the roster: Chase Allen/TE Jack Sanborn/ LB

The more you read and look at film of these draftees, the more you like Brisker and Gordon. In the last two years, combined, only gave up one TD on pass plays and no penalties. Leaders on their teams and big hitters. Besides being day one starters, could be pro bowl types. I hated not taking offensive players but those were good picks. I think they find a role for Jones similar to Deebo. Deebo's first year, had 57 catches, 802 yards and 3 TDs. Also ran for159 yards and 3 TDs. I can see similar numbers. He has been KRer of the year in two different conferences, Pac12 and SEC. A big IF, they use him right, could have a big impact on offense. Another player I watched on film was Elijah Hicks, A SS out of Cal, has got game to. Kramer, Thomas, and Braxton Jones all could eventually be starters. The punter could end up taking that job, and Robinson has a ton of potential. Ebner could make the roster this year as as KRer and specialty player out of the backfield. A excellent receiver with4.42 speed. This could turn out to be a foundation builder for the bears at the start of the Justin Fields era.

I seen a post on Twitter showing a new S we have, thought it was Brisker until I noticed the uniforms. Eligah Hicks has some game.

I agree with that. I think Poles assessment after the draft will cause him to get Duane Brown and move Borom to RG. I find it very hard this team will be as bad as last year. If you changed no personal, better coaching and play calling is a net positive. Fields will improve. Better Def, more TOs, ( Flus did that every where he coached), the defense is a Ogunjobi away from being very good. The WR will grade out better than it looks on paper.

I could do a negative post and list all the potential pitfalls but that's not me. I am hoping for Ogunjobi to come back, odds aren't in my favor, so if not, definitely a weakness. Edwards and Karama can back up Jones but not sure what you get. .Free agency is pretty thin for 3Ts, maybe Nick Williams, he had 7 sacks as a backup when with us. Maybe a UDFA surprises us. I think after the draft Poles will evaluate the OL and bring a vet in if he needs to. My love for Carter comes from the regional scouts opinion on Carter, based on nothing else.i do wholeheartedly believe Jones becomes a playmaker for us, watch a ton tape on him.

I'll put this here, love this pick.

Sanborn led one of the better Ds in the NCAA in tackles. A Kwit type of LBer. The SAM is only on the field 30% of the time in the Flus defense, maybe a surprise and starts.

I wrote this without including any thoughts on UDFAs . They have added 35 so far. There has to be a few surprises in that group that will be added to the roster.

He was a WR that converted to RB, could be a Tarik Cohen type pass catcher with 4.42 speed, same as Cohen.

I like what Poles has done. Stuck to BPA ( good teams do that) , not what I wanted but what's best. He hasn't bogged the team down with high priced contracts like Pace did. Traded Mack for cap relief. Mack hasn't been Mack for a few years, so that was a good decision. He has rebuilt the roster but I think with the possibility of winning this year. DEFENSE: This defense will be better than last year. Our first two picks should start and I think they bring Ogunjobi back. DE: Q Mohammed- Quinn-Gipson-Snowden- Robinson. ( with Mack hurt) better than last yr. DT: Ogunjobi?-Jones-Edwards- Tonga-Blackson (Hicks was hurt , Goldman sucked) better LB:Smith Morrow- Adams-Calieb Johnson- Mack Snowden. ( may still bring in FA at SAM) more speed, A push because Ogletree was good. CB: Johnson- Gordon-Young--Graham- Vidor-Stroman. Definitely better S: AJAC-Brisker-Cruikshank-HCD definitely better With the new coaching staff, the added speed and change in scheme, I think this will a 10-12th ranked defense with an uptick in TOs. OFFENSE: The key is Fields improvement this year. I think with the new coaching staff , better play calling, it looks totally different. QB: Fields-- Sieman. Fields will look like a different QB, better play calling, better use of talent RB: Montgomery--Herbert's Evans --Blasingame. strongest group on team, adding a FB much better. WR:Mooney--Pringle--Jones Jr-- St Brown--David Moore--Newsome. IMO much better (AROB was bad) IMO Jones JR is the surprise of camp,( Deebo Samuel Clone )and Pringle will be good TE:Kmet--O'Shannessy--Griffin-Horsted. I think Kmet takes a step forward and Hosted gets a shot Better OT: Jenkins Borom--Davenport--Jones This is still a question mark but I think Jenkins is the real deal. Jones could surprise OG : Whitehair--Dozier--Thomas--Carter--Eiselen still a question mark. IMO JaTyre Carter ends up being a surprise and starts. OC: Patrick--Mustifer--Kramer. much better. ST: Santos--Gill Trenton-- Winslow KR: Jones--Ebner I think with better play calling, Fields takes a step, better coaching, Jenkins shines, Jones JR surprise playmaker, and Kmet and Hosted step up, we have an offense that can score points. Change my mind

The Robinson/ DE selection ( ton of upside) is almost identical to Charlie Snowden UDFA. from last year. 6.22 NFL rating. The 4th option at DE may already be on the roster, plus he was better against the run. He is listed as a LB on bear's website, so maybe he is our SAM LB.