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I don't blindly follow what someone's opinion is but he has watched hours of tape more than I have. I read many opinions, look at tape myself and form an opinion. I think you keep saying you haven't watched much tape on anyone yet. So later in the process, I will find more value in your opinion. Having said all of that, NFL people make mistakes all the time. All we can do is read watch and see what happens. We have to get a star at #10 , not just a starter. As I look at more information, there's people I start to like. Watch some tape on Membou, he's a beast. Also TJ Sanders and Joshua Farmer. A couple DTs I like.

I listen to people that scout for a living much more than fans. Drafts are about value of your pick. I think Booker is a day one starter but if scouts rate someone better, I'm going to listen to the conversation. It's about the value of the #10 pick, If Membou is rated higher I think he will be a better player. If we trade back to the latter part of the round and take Booker, I would be elated.

Here's an interview of an Ourlads scout that is worth listening to. He suggests Membou may be better than Campbell and Booker has a second round grade. He likes Hampton better than Jeanty.

Actually just heard a interview with an Ourlads scout. He gives Booker a 2nd round grade and Membou has more upside than Campbell. Zabel probably will be gone. It's just projection on me. Ourlads is a group of former scouts that sell scouting information to NFL teams. Last I heard was 25 teams but there content. They're seem to be on point a lot when it comes to evaluations.

I think Dennis Allen prefers size at DE. So Stewart, Landon Jackson, Jack Sawyer JT Tumoloau are more suitable for our defense. Hopefully someone jumps on Stewart and we will get the choice of the rest at 39. 1st Booker or Membou 39) Landon Jackson 41) Zabel or Savaiinaea 72) TJ Sanders 149) Skattebo or Mullings

I think Campbell will be gone by 10. So if we have to take a player with no trade back, I would prefer Booker or Membou over Banks. Coming off an injury and the other two are more aggressive and have an attitude.

I think they can build an offense groomed to Justin and win with. They can now get him cheaply. It's a risk but Wilson wasn't the answer.

Stewart has a monster day but has 0 production in college. When I look at prospects, production is the first thing I look at, then work ethic, attitude, and demeanor. Then traits.

Fortunately, the depth at OG, and DT are very good that a couple trade back scenario's would still get us a top prospect and add needed picks. Between 72 and 149 is to big a gap with some talent still available at that point in the draft. Other than Jeanty ( if available) who would someone want to trade up to get? We might have a better chance at trading our 39 th pick as players fall out of the first round. That's probably just a third or fourth round pick at that point but still welcomed.

I think players like this ( not top rated) will be more likely drafted, 3 rd round and beyond, and could be big contributors this year.

Overall free agency is mainly over paying for players. This year, we are just going to have to over pay for a couple additions because we don't have enough assets in the draft to try fix everything there.

Yes, there's only a few true LTs in this draft, several RTs and and almost everyone else is playing inside. Membro and Johan Savaiinaea are tackles

The team met with Cam Skattebo/ RB from AZ. His tape looks good. Any ASU guys have any opinions?

I watch a lot of Greg Gabriel podcasts and the day people started talking about Trey Smith, he said they were not letting him out of building. He's a smart guy when it comes to the NFL.

If you look at Poles history, he doesn't throw around a lot of big contracts every year. 2 on the OL and one on DL would be my guess. This has to be the year to push the envelope because Caleb should be vastly improved.

I don't think he's an pro type but top 5 is a drastic improvement. I seen a podcast with an oline coach, name?He was talking about if the center is not a big guy (Dalman 305), having big strong guards helps the center play a lot. Several big guards in the draft and Kevin Zeilter is 326 , so assembling the interior will be by design. Will Campbell 320 Armond Membou 332 Tyler Booker 325 Johan Savaiinaea 339 Tate Rutledge 320

Does everyone think Dalman is the focus on free agency?What is the backup plan? ATL is under water with their cap and already pay big contracts to 2 OLs. He should be available but is he worth 15 mil if we get in a bidding war? I think something like a 12 mil a year secures him. Seen some other options I didn't think about. Kelly is older and has had injuries the last two years. I don't think he's in play. Joel Myers was brought up on X . Young getting better every year and robs GB of his services. 4 penalties, I sack, 29 pressures "I brought up Evan Brown who has played center 2 of his last 4 years and rated well last year as a guard.( LG) Coleman Shelton had 4 penalties, 3 sacks, 26 pressures last year playing every snap. He ranked as the 19th best center. We could do worst. Lastly is Ryan Bates over his shoulder problem with stem cell therapy? Poles likes him, brought him in to play Center. Can he do it this year? Plus he is still on the roster. Hopefully Dalman is the guy and don't have to think about it.

There are better options than Mack. Poles has a tendency to add younger players if he's handing out high salaries. Several options at DL.

Others I pay attention to are Dane Brugler, Matt Miller and like the Draft Buzz website. Great Blue North Draft Report and Ourlads

Not knowing how much influence the new coaches have as far as roster construction, Poles has several options at 10. If BPA, it could be Jeanty but , if possible, a trade back would add more assets as a lot of so called experts claim about 15 Blue Chip players and then a large group ( 15-50) about the same quality. If we can get an extra top 50 pick, it would give us 4 options in the 50 and pick 72. Those all should be eventual starters in the first 2 years. Poles is tight lipped when making decisions, so I am sure there are some surprises along the way.

Totally, Poles plan at OL turned out crap. Braxton and the potential of Kiran will be judged by how they view the main 3 LTs in the draft . I'm saying the possibility of one of those 2 being our left tackle this year are likely. If they like Banks a lot, he is the most logical choice. The LT position in the draft is very limited. Being in Thailand, I spend a lot at time looking at free agency and the draft, only so much beach and partying that my body can do. A lot of people think Braxton gets one more year to prove himself before he's due a contract. That's some local press and national. The consensus that Braxton is terrible isn't everybody.

Still several options out there. Evan Brown, Becton, Kevin Zeitler, Will Fries. Brian Kelly, Dalman and Evan Brown are the choices at center.

Brad Holmes, the GM made those decisions , when asked Ben said he had nothing to do with it. I'm not trying to say Swift is great but he's not chump change either. Swift went to the pro bowl the year he played in Philly, he was only there on a one year deal. Would you rather sign Barkley or resign Swift? That's not brain surgery. Barkley wasn't available the yr before. I agree he probably won't be here after next year but he had production every place he played until he came here. So by your logic, we should be in the SB after we cut Swift. Got it

He drafted Kiran with that intention but don't think he expected the competition for LT until this year due to his injury. It all comes down to their evaluation of Campbell - Banks - Simmons. I don't think he drafts an injured player after the Kiran pick last year. Campbell will be gone so it comes down to his opinion on Banks. I get Braxton is just an average LT but with need at IOL , Jones could slide by this year with Kiran as his competition. Darrnel Wright keeps getting praise but had more penalties 8, more sacks 6 and more pressures 30 than Braxton did last year. I don't think Poles throws away his 5th round LT starter and his 3 rd pick last year that easily. If he upgrades 3 IOL spots, I think that may upgrade the play of both OTs. Good play calling and more chip support on the outside may make both OTs perform better. Our play caller left our LT on an island when we played Jared Verse with no support. Bad idea.

As much as Jeanty is going to be a stud in the NFL, the bears won't be drafting him. Johnson clearly relies on a 2 back system, if you draft a #1 it will change the dynamic of a team trying to feature a QB. Johnson came here because of Caleb. They will draft a RB to upgrade the power game, Swift will do well under Johnson as the scat back. The bad OL also affected the running game as well as the passing game. Johnson talked about impact players also on defense as well as offense. Caleb - DJ- Odunze - Kmet and a combo RBs. The first pick will be an impact player, probably D, Campbell seems to be the only top 10 OL player. If not there, I think they draft a DE or DT. Banks, Simmons, are the only true LT in the draft and so far haven't been evaluated to top OL pick values. All the other high rated OL seemed destined to RT or move inside. They may deem them that and change the # 10 pick evaluation. IOL has great depth and can be gotten with 39-41 if that's where they choose to draft them. IMO, I think the first player will be a DL pick, 39-41 OL and 72 open. I think they bring in 2 starters on the OL and 1 of 2 DL . News today at the combine is Abdul Carter has a stress factor in his foot, probably surgery. If he drops to 10, would you take him knowing he will miss the beginning of the season?