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Totaly agree with you. If he goes 5-0 or 4-1, he will be close to the top of the list. They need the best choice, i think they need someone that has did it before, new hires dont have a track record on being a HC.

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Watched a video thar showed with 46 seconds left, DJ Moore ran a crossing pattern and Caleb threw a pass into the ground. No one near Moore, he would have scored and won the game. I missed that play in real time while watching the game. So many plays that changed the game, just bad karma on the Bears right now.

What record does Brown need to be given the HC after the season? 5-0, 4-1, 3-2 ? I think they will have a search for a new HC after the season, Brown will be a canidate. I think Caleb has input in keeping Brown or not that will affect their decision. I would say they probably look for someone that has been a HC before and been successful. A new hire always has a learning period as to whether he can be a HC. Nagy, Flus. Vrabel-Kingsbury-Belicheck-Gruden all fall in that catagory, Johnson does not.

So let me understand this, his HC performance has affected our team, but his defensive coaching has no effect? The D has a lot of injuries right now and this team is in chaos and you're trying to compare performancies? He has a history of being a good DC but we are suppose to judge him on a few games? Using that logic then at the begining of the year Caleb had some teerrible games so he's not any good. Got it.

Flus has a proven record of good DC play from Dallas and Colts to the affect he has had since he took over calling the plays, acknowleging some good and bad points of any coach is okay, it doesnt mean I'm a fanboy, its just a logical evaluation. Saying he was a good DC and thinking he is a terrible HC can exist at the same time.

You have been right a lot about Fields and Flus but I just push back on Cunningham being a good leader when they're is no evidence to prove that. I could throw a bunch of comments out there and it would give me better odds of being right. I dont think George fires Poles, a history of evidence to show for that. Cunningham may be a great GM but dont know that at this time. If Brown gets a winning record in the last 5 games, Bears history says they make him the next HC, Williams stays as DC and we have stability for better or worse. That's what I think the Bears do, I would just hire Jon Gruden and run with it.

SOURCES: Bears interested in promising OC from Kansas City to fill HC vacancy. Has prior HC experience and has played a role in developing perennial MVP candidate Patrick Mahomes. I thought this was kinda funny.

Totally it should be the plan.

First of all fans dont get to have say in whether Poles stays or goes. Very true that the HC job is very critical to the future of the Bears. If they fire Poles then its a crap show this off season. They are not going to just turn it over to Cunningham, no one knows what input he has had in decisions. If he is involved then it would be a negative because this season has been a downhill slide. You may not have any trust in Poles but who knows who will be the next GM and who he may want to be his coach. By the time they figure that out, all the good coaches could be gone. Do you trust George and Warren to get it right? Warren was a lawyer that got a good deal on a stadium for the Vikings, he was never involved with personal. I trust Poles way more than George or Warren.

Firing Flus now does create chaos but it had to be done. You are right about Brown concentrating on Caleb and play calling, he has to have someone to lean on to help with other duties.

He is fired now, not sure why you want to kill any positive influence he brought to the team. Last yr when he took over the play calling , he definitly affected the defensive quality. The yr the defense started out well and when injuries hit, it started sliding. He is a very bad HC but that doesnt mean he is not a good DC. This is an example of hate that I said that yoy do.

Draft a OT and have Jones, rookie, and Kiran compete to start and it gives us good depth at the worse case scenario. Kiran was a 2nd round rated T coming off of an injury, and could end up being a good player. its not russian roulette with every draft class.

Im not the biggest PFF guy but it is a measuring stick to compare players. If you read the rest of the post I had us drafting a 1st pick OT, then have Jones as a swing T. He is not a problem for a cheap depth backup. Can a rookie T beat him out in his first yr or is Kiran A. a possibility?

None of this matters anymore but the FG attempt for Santos would have been a 59 yarder of which Santos would not have made. They had to run another play to try to get closer with a 3rd and 26yards to go. A good coach would have called a TO after the sack (30 seconds left) and instilled one play to get 10 yards hoping to be able to stop the clock. I think a roll out with a sideline pass and Caleb having the option to run out of bounds was the best option. Odds are we would not have won the game. Flus robbed us of the chance to play in OT and is now fired for it. By the way Brown was named the interm coach.

enough said.

Brad Biggs said he meets with the brass this afternoon, I didnt expect them to just fire them w/o a plan. They have to figure it out yet. Is there someone Poles or Cunnginham are close to that could be brought in temporarly, we dont know. Also who can take over that is here ? I dont think they want to stick to much on Thomas Browns plate since he is doing well with Caleb. Wait and see, it may not be figured out until monday.

It all started with 36 seconds left coming out of a penalty , Caleb was going to run a QB draw but the OTs didnt block before the release. Didnt have time. Clocck runs to 30 seconds left/ they didnt lineup quicky(no urgency from the coaching staff), Caleb gets the ball with 12 seconds left. He holds the ball to throw down field. 1) coach should have called a TO 2) Patrick Manley said usually the ST coach is suppose to alert Flus they are running out of time. 3) Caleb should have thrown the ball out of bounds instead of holding to throw donw field. At the press conference Caleb said he thought he could hit Odunze at the 5 yard line. 4) time run out. First responiblity is HC, secondly is the process with time running out, Caleb not being aware of time on clock.

Poles speaks today at 9 AM. Firing is a no brainer but who takes over? Fans dont care but Poles wont do it without having someone to take over. I suspect he will have to talk to the coaching staff to figure that out. Brown needs to just stay with Caleb to keep developing him. It may not be today.

We have 4 OL signed for next year, B Jones-Wright-Bates-Kiran A. I think they resign Shelton and Pryor. Jenkins is a Wildcard, if he takes a tean friendly deal because of injury history, I think he brings him back . My opinion: I have looked at college prospects and they're 6 OTs valued in first round, 2 will go in the top 10 of which we should be picking. Right now we have #9-#40-#41-#73. Poles will not reach for players so depending who drops to 9, DE or OT. With the first 4 picks 2-OT and 2-DL depending on vaue at time of the draft. Whether you want to here it or not B Jones is a top half rated T. 64 starting Ts, he is ranked in the top 25 overall. Wright is highly rated and will only get better. They're 2 top OL players on the market Trey Smith/KC and Dave Dalman/Atl. Sign one or both and align draft accordingly. With Bates and Shelton still in the picture, probably Trey Smith. I would draft a OT, make B Jones the swing T , Move Kiran A. to LG and compete with Jenkins coming back. A rookie C to compete with Shelton and Bates? The losers give us depth at all IOL after signing Trey Smith. Wright will end up a pro bowler one day. OL; Rookie T B Jones Wright Shelton Bates Rookie IOL Trey Smith Jenkins Kiran A. Matt Pryor. There will be 2 high picks for the DL, Booker another yr of development. a healthy Billings and Sweat and I think they sign amother high paid FA.

I think Poles made the final decision on Flus, he came in with (work your ass off ) attitude and as a new GM that probably sounded good. A run the ball first type, play good defense type of coach. Remember Valeb was not in anyone's thought process at that time. They had a 1st round QB in Fields but he concentraited on fixing the cap space and trying to build a roster. Last yr left some questions with Flus but they finished 5-3 with Caleb coming in and Getsy going out, I understand what he was thinking. The whole year proved Flus isnt a HC but coming from upstairs you ride the storm out and change at the end of the season. Flus has given away 4 games this yr and no longer has Waldron to blame. Poles can gain some respect by firing him today. Poles will be here next yr but can he hire the right coach? We will find out. Lets say they fire everybody, the same people are hiring the new regime, better to at least stick with a GM that asked for 4-5 yrs and has us on a upward trajectory. The Bears were not bringing in Harbaugh last yr, look at his contract and the control they gave him. 5 year 80 million was nothing the ownership would ever do. He is the second highhest paid coach in football, Sean Payton is first. Andy Ried has a 20 million extension but doesnt kick in until next yr. Tomlin got an extention that pays him 16 mil starting next yr.

Poles is talking today at 9AM. Hopefully he has a plan, with 10 days until the next game, the perfect time to end the misery. Has to be in house, not sure who has HC experience.

Every game going forward should look like this. That should hit 4000

A team with a 6 game losing streak is usually a very bad team, but look who we're playing and how we're hanging. This a good team with a brain dead coach. We kind of fixed a OC problem and have injuries but we could have 4 more wins this yr with just lack of a stupid coach. Had we tied the game, who knowa if we would win but with Caleb, odds are falling to us.

Really this is what yor talking about right now? If Poles doesnt fire him before the next game, Im going to join your group of hate everyone.