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The earth is flat, not sure of your point? Until Poles trades Justin that option is still on the table.

If they were already set on drafting him , would they be doing that?

Last year Justin was picked by his NFL peers as the 87 th best player in the League. Trevor Lawrence was either in the 90s or didn't make the list. Very well respected in the League amongst players.

I read one stat were he has more interceptions (28) than he does missed tackles in his career. That's huge having such a well tackling FS. Poles is going for winning this year. Does he think a rookie QB gets us there?

A deep dive into statistics suggests differently.

At his age he's taking any starting gig he could get. He has never mentioned retirement in his last few years, odds are slim on that. He will not be cheap.

I trust Poles to make the right choice. We are in win mode now, A rookie QB would have us regress for this year at least. I think the possibility still exists to add picks and still draft a QB to sit behind Justin.

PFF had Byard as the 11 th ranked S last year. Definitely an upgrade over EJac

7.5 mil a year is an excellent price for a former pro bowl player. You think that's expensive?

Poles was a former player, he absolutely listens to his stars. The scenario where we draft Caleb and keep Fields has always been an option. What better way to keep the moral of the team up by having Caleb earn the respect of the team as he transitions. likely Caleb's first year would be more Young like than Stroud. We can keep winning, treat Fields with respect and the team has time to earn respect for Caleb. Fields always misses a couple of games a year from minor injuries, what better way to transition a new QB than have him earn it and get the team behind him.

Poles has a plan in place and so far , he's doing it before Free agency starts. Byard may only have a few good years left and so he draft one and have him sit behind Byard and learn. I think this is a desirable place to come to with the talent we already have. Plus if we have a QB on a rookie deal, it it opens up the ability to get better veterans. Poles has to win now.

Poles comes from KC, they drafted Mahomes and didn't trade Smith until the next year. Smith was more accomplished than Fields, he has a template from the KC situation. It gives him the chance to raise the trade value of Justin. Poles isn't dumping Fields for chump change, he will likely sit Caleb for a year like they did in KC. We are at the spot in the rebuild where we have to win and a rookie QB is an unknown factor. Justin is a competitor, he's not crying his way out of town. If Caleb has a problem with it , it brings back his red flag character issues that came up before the draft. Mahomes never had a problem with it in KC.

Painting a sad return for Fields if Poles moves on.

I'm not sure anyone on this site doesn't think Caleb isn't talented. It's other reasons they question him being drafted. Intangibles, superego. QBs are just hard to analyze until they play in the NFL. If Poles drafts him and he's better than Mahomes like he claims, I love routing for my team in big games.

I've heard rumors he could be the next QB for the bears. ( He does have an arm)

It's all coming to ahead in the next,10 days, Justin will be gone or the first pick will be traded. The great debate will no longer be the topic.

Live in Rockford, spend January until May in Thailand. That's how I manage. Literally cheaper living here than Florida or Arizona.

Chris Jones is getting a 3 year 95 mil deal from KC . How can they do that while paying 50 to Mahomes?

Zach Frazier should be, he has game.

Of course not I do these all the time and never came up with scenario. I have to trade out of the top 10 to get those results.

Milton as the future QB prospect is how mine always come out. A few times Penix is there in the second round and I take him. How great is it having 2 top 10 picks that Poles will turn into 6 or 7 top 50.

I guarantee you I have watched more tape than you have on every prospect but his great talent is not in question. Its the rest of his intangibles that come in question. Us cultists accept there are other options and try look at everything. You pretend because we think Justin might get better and adding MJH , and Dallas Turner might be a better option but you're not having any of that. I'm okay with your opinion, why are you so disrespectful of people that don't agree you?

Great post logical and well thought out. I have always suggested keeping Fields, loading up on draft picks and let a QB develop for one or two years. They did it in KC with a QB that was never thought to be generational, but Mahomes became that person. Poles is doing the deep dive , if he says Williams, I buying the popcorn, if he does your option, keep JF1 and develop, it's the best of both worlds. Probably the least likely to happen but Poles does not do what is expected.

Its pathetic you can't read , I have already said 50 times that IF, Poles chooses Williams, I accept he made the right choice. You won't see me bring negatives about him going forward. None of that means I have to Crown him king without throwing one ball in the NFL. Your putting him in the Hall of fame already. I never took to time to break his plays down, A ESPN writer did. It's a fact, sorry you don't like that fact.

I seen a breakdown of Caleb's throws for 2023. He literally had 60 plays where he held the ball for over 6 seconds. I would bet Justin never did that his whole career. Because IYO you think everything you state are set in stone, it's not true. There is points on who to go with on both sides. I will accept which choice Poles makes because he fully vetted the prospect. You will not accept, if he chooses Justin. It's OK because you don't have to, but I don't have to buy your opinion totally either.