Daventry

Would Bagent be worth giving a shot at starting quarterback? It would be great to see a bit more of him

You can keep saying it as many times as you like, but that is bullsh£t. The culture will be re-set next year. I don’t expect the players to quit, but I will continue to hope they lose pointless games that only results in sliding down the draft board.

Have to go to Germany for that. I settle for the bottles. This game is having no effect except draft position. Which player will remember the “Winning culture” next year? Please

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It’s obvious baiting.

Give it a rest for crying out loud.

FWIW, I would prefer seeing Fields be traded and taking the best quarterback available in the draft. We still have Bagent as well, he is at least a solid backup. As noted by someone else, the people you identified as being pro-Fields are not necessarily so entirely if at all. I guess this topic seems to have been beat to death and most importantly been the precipitant to two of the most prolific posters on this board get into some pretty unpleasant conflict. I would really hate to see that continue. I have given up on Fields. He has been poor overall for three years. That’s enough for me. He seems like a great guy with loads of talent but he doesn’t get it.

It is a difficult question, not least because of JF’s talent and likeable character. Recent media seems to indicate he will be gone. It is going to be a very interesting next six months. I certainly don’t trust that what the talking heads say in public is really what they are thinking, and I am not sure most of their opinions are any more legitimate than anyone else’s.

Your position on this question is clear. Does it matter one bit what the above are saying?

Unfortunately, this does seem to me the bottom line due to the salary cap issues so well described. I guess we could shut our eyes, take our favourite intoxicant, and convince ourselves that we are so sure that the most recent version of Fields will become a reliable superstar. I fear we will wake up from that strategy right back where we started. I do trust Poles, and I agree that he very likely knows exactly what he will be doing this offseason.

Sometimes the imagination of those dreaming up excuses for JF is astounding.

Hard to believe in JF at this point. He is completely exposed now

Exactly. How much longer does Fields get to be consistently good? Let’s move on, play Bagent and look to the draft and FA to continue to build.

How many years has Bagent had? Vs how many years JF has had.

Add a category “he has sucked for over two years “ and I will check that one

McMahon was hurt a lot by the time he left the team. The Redskins offered Marshall big money and he took it. I wish they both would have stayed too. That was a magical team and year.

The facts are that Ditka was the HC of arguably the best Super Bowl winning team of all time. The list of Super Bowl winning coaches is pretty short compared to the list of people with opinions about the coaching acumen of said coaches. The man did a lot in his life to even get to the point of being considered for a head coaching position in the NFL. Again, the list of people who have been considered for head coaching positions is much shorter than the list of people who have opinions about football and coaches. Mike Ditka accomplished a great deal in his life. It wasn’t a fluke that he did so. It is easy to have an opinion, the old saying that everyone has one springs to mind. Criticising accomplished people and dismissing them entirely is not a reflection of reality.

I read your post superficially, which was more than your posts deserved. You criticise extensively with no real facts, just your views. I could waste my time refuting your opinions, but I have better things to do. The results speak for themselves. The facts are irrefutable.

PS-Buddy Ryan really tore the league up with success during his head coaching career didn’t he? Oh yes, I forgot, that was someone else’s fault.

Totally disagree. How no credit at all be given to the HC of arguably the most entertaining and dominant Super Bowl winners of all time is beyond me. All of the criticisms are subjective. How about we judge results for a change? Or do we want to keep blaming outside forces for success or failure? Justin sucks because of coaching right? Give me a break.

I can’t disagree with the overall dysfunction, but you could have Jesus coaching Fields and he still wouldn’t be kicking any ass.

To be clear, I don’t believe coaching can be blamed for all of Fields problems. That’s what they said about Trubisky and he went to some other teams with other coaches and hasn’t set the world on fire. Fields would struggle regardless of who was coaching him.

I am really surprised some still hold onto coaching as the reason for Fields problems. In my view, it is clear that regardless of the coaching, he is not close to being a starting quarterback in the NFL.