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I think you have to give Orton a lot of credit for the Indy game. He was very mature and did exactly what was needed of him. I don't know if Rex wins that game for us. However, the other two games I think you could make a case that the team wins with Rex. That said, the team could have very well won those games with Kyle. Obviously the Bears didn't win the games with Kyle but it should be worth at least something when you can say that the team should have won the game if (and Kyle's name doesn't pop up). Clearly the offense left some points on the field today and I can bitch and moan a lot about Orton's play but in the 2nd half Kyle stepped up. He still wasn't pretty but he at least delivered completions. Was it a perfect 2nd half, no, I'd probably give him a B- because there were a lot of "poorly thrown" receptions. First half he would have gotten a D- or so. All that said I think its hard to really say how the team would be doing with one guy or the other but I will say this, the last time Rex had a decent rushing attack he turned out to be pretty effective (ie, super bowl season). Still Rex showed enough of why he wasn't the answer which is why the Bears almost are stuck with Orton (unless he's horrendous, which he was in the 1st half) because they have to see if Kyle can do it (the answer is pretty much out on Rex, unfortunately).

Once again, accurate as hell recap Noots!!!

Chiefs run away with the mark of worse football team in the NFL.

I've always said the Bears took a big chance on Hester. He doesn't deserve that type of money until he proves he could be a legit WR. I don't personally think he has the smarts to do it and I would have traded him for 2 1st round picks in a heart-beat. People forget that while Hester is a special returnman the Bears have had a good returning game for a few years before Devin (McQuarters & Vasher were both very good).

Cowher has always brought in some innovative offensive guys though. Sure he sticks with the run but I always remember his offenses having some nice wrinkles (utilizing Randle El/Kordell/Hines Ward/etc). Bears will never get Cowher though because it would not only mean offering him about 7 mill a year for 5 years but the Bears would also have to fire Lovie and pay out the remainder of his deal (which would practically mean the Bears are paying 12M a year for there coach).

Couldn't the Bears have reviewed it? I always though you could challenge a fumble even when ruled down by contact. Or was this the exact same as the Denver/Oakland game where you have the whistle rule. Bears lost this game because: 1. They couldn't pressure Griese. 2. They couldn't catch key passes (Rashied in OT) 3. Boneheaded Penalties (Peanut)

All I can say is the penalties. Stupid penalties have been something the Bears have consistently done. I've also seen the Bears consistently lose games where they have outplayed the opposition. Those two areas are how coaches are defined and Lovie does a horrid job at both. His teams get consistently out-coached and thats why they end up losing games that they shouldn't.

Come on, Orton completely underthrew the ball. Its one thing to underthrow on a jump ball when both the WR/CB are in the same spot, but in that instance Forte had a couple steps and a good pass and its a TD. I was chanting for Grossman for the first few quarters, but Orton did step things up and was better. He didn't hit many guys in stride, even in the 2nd half, but he did sucessfully go down field. At the end of the day, he made a great throw to Rashied who freakin whiffed on it and than of course there was that dumbshit penalty by Tillman. I realize he got punched but I don't care at all, you can't do something that freakin stupid. All that said, he still gets a C and thats not good enough.

This game is going to come down to coaching and execution. I expect a low scoring game in which the team that does the little things wins the game. That doesn't bode well for the Bears who tend to make a lot of "mistakes". I like Lovie's ability to motivate and do a lot of things but I have not seen him be the type of coach that is able to get his playes to play "clean" games. Clean in the sense of cutting out stupid penalties, making bonehead mistakes. Hopefully the Bears players can go out and play a good game.

If I were the Bucs, I'd be saying...Orton and Brandon Lloyd, WOW. Just saying

Doesn't shock me. This guy showed some flashes. He has had serious attitude problems but its quite possible this time away from football could get his head on straight. Obviously its doubtful, but for a team like the Lions I don't see a problem taking a chance. Of course, you just have to make sure that he doesn't interfere with Kevin Smith, whom they think pretty highly of. On a sidenote, my manager at work is the brother and law of Marinelli and it turns out Marinelli was offered Millen's job during the prior off-season (not this off-season but the 07 off-season) but turned it down.

Great stuff as always. I agree with bradjock though and felt it was a pretty routine tackle made by Harris. In no way shape or form was it the type of tackle or move that youd' expect to see a fumble on. On a sidenote, in case people are interested, Noots recaps are also being posted on this news site: http://www.chisport.com/index/?p=55

The Bears will get beat by a good number of good offensive teams.

The Bucs game is going to be a tough one. They have a great defense. It's going to be a big game for Orton since the Bucs will be able to limit Forte's production (the reality is they'll clock the box and Forte/Jones will have a lot of trouble which means Orton will have to win that game for Chicago).

Rex's biggest flaw is his inability to audible around the blitz. I've finally decided that must be the reason why the oline does so much worse when Rex is in compared with Orton.

That was an awesome win. Glad to see the Irish at 2-0. They still have a ways to go but at least it won't be as bad as last season.

I think this is a great point. Jones was brought in to get carries. He has gotten very little. I realize Forte has been very productive but if the Bears are going to be good all season long they will have to protect Forte. If they don't, Forte will hit a big time wall and our offense will really be spinning. Hopefully the Bears are leaning hard on Forte early in order to give Jones a little more time to get to 100% and at that point we'll see Forte get a couple lighter games (15 carries with Jones getting about 15-20). And Brian, I won't say it again, the personal attacks stop right here. You disagree with a thread, state why, don't throw the poster under the bus.

Orton managed the Bears into a loss. However, It would be bad for the team to go into a competition or even throw out Grossmans name right now. Orton gets at least 4 starts (most likely 6, unless he's hideous the next 2 games). At that point if Orton isn't making some improvements you might consider playing Rex. However, the reality is the Bears are riding on Orton. IF he fails, than Rex could come in, but regardless it means the Bears need to find a #1 this off-season. If Orton succeeds, than the Bears have there QB. Because of that you'll see them give Kyle every chance to succeed.

Forte is great but so is my boy Jonathan Stewart. Man did Stewart look impressive. That said I can't complain about Forte, he looked great again.

Turner really did do a great job in the 1st half though. He was very creative and the Bears were passing a lot early in the down's and really kept the Panthers off balance. In the 2nd half he got overly conservative but he made the calls that put the Bears in a position to score quite a few first half points (Olsen's fumble prevented some more). Heck, even in the 2nd half he still had a couple plays which if the players executed result in at least one more score.

I feel Orton is much smarter on the field and he obviously out-smarted himself. The quick out was working all day and I hated the call but I won't kill Orton for it. That said, Orton almost seemed to be audible happy today. It was as if he thought he was Peyton Manning.

Welcome aboard Vasher was a tremendous punt returner prior to the Bears drafting Hester. He also had a pretty darn nice return to put the Bears in a great spot to tie the game. Unfortunately the offense didnt do its job.

I don't think any expert pegged the Bears as a playoff team entering the season. Maybe after the Colts win, but I'm definitely surprised they are 1-1 to start the season. Its what I keep telling myself considering I had zero expectations. They still have some major flaws. I really hope Orton can adjust and hit the intermediate route but he's never shown that ability in the NFL.

Orton audibled out of a running play and called the quick screen. Blame him, not Turner for that particular play.

There was the one bomb to Booker. However he threw a deep ball where Lloyd was underneath and the corner had everything over the top. If Orton was good he'd have underthrown that deep ball and Lloyd would have had an easy reception. Orton should watch tape of Eli/Plaxico who do a tremendous job of that. Oh and I must say, Lloyd was impressive. He was catching everything (including some tough catches where he bailed out Orton).