
ASHKUM BEAR
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Bears pushing for #2 but Tenn don't want Cutler
ASHKUM BEAR replied to bradjock's topic in Bearstalk
The rumor is dead. Thought it was dumb and would've dug a deeper hole. Good riddance. -
I picked Beasley as my pick, but have a hunch Shelton is our guy. Biggs said the Bears have gotten very tight lipped on Shelton...so tight that it is telling. Brad Biggs is pretty bright and the guy could be a building block on a 3-4.
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What I am thinking Is: 1-Winston 2-Mariota 3-Fowler 4-Cooper 5- Williams 6-White 7=? Scherff, Beasley, Shelton, Waynes, Dupree, Peat? Hopefully Fowler, Williams, or Cooper fall. White is some what in that 2nd tier to me. Beasley in almost in the upper tier, but like Jason says do we need more OLB's. If only Ronnie Stanley declared for the draft this year instead of going back to Notre Dame.
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I am not too thrilled with our slot. Sure 7 is great, but the guys I want won't be there...most likely. There is a handful of other players I like also, but feel at 7 they would be taken to high. I am excited as always and thinking of taking the train downtown Saturday. The days of sitting in front of the computer and tv all day seem to have faded.
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My tops: New Orleans Cleveland Tampa Bay New York Jets --- Tennessee Jacksonville
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Great work Adam on keeping this going! It was fun to follow other teams needs.
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They can always move Houston/McPhee to DE and after 2015, we most likely not re-sign McClellin, Allen, Young, Washington. So OLB will be a need eventually. I know it is not a need or likeable pick this year, but next year it may be a big need.
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Your fellow beartalk bro's put it to you. Might need another CB since Ifo's knee may have him sidelined like SF RB Marcus Lattimore. Been reading reports that the knee might be worse than thought. If those reports are false, yes Ifo was a first RD prospect. recommendations Marcus Hardison DT/DE Henry Anderson DE Alex Carter CB James Sample SS Gabe Wright DT
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My guess is Vic Beasley. Because with Ray and Gregory hurting their stock, Cooper, White, Fowler and Williams go along with the QBs. Beasley is highly rated and too high to pass as bpa. If they can trade down, then it is a few spots down only.
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With 103rd pick, the Jacksonville Jaguars select LB Kwon Alexander, LSU. Alexander is not you traditional LB but will provide a pass rush. Killakrzydav and NYJ are on the clock.
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That is for next year, teams have until 05/01 or something to decide if they will pick up his 5th year option. At 7.5 million, do you blame the Bears for not?
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He also has a stress fracture in his foot now. Have to have a sharp medical staff to keep an eye on these guys.
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Even though I do not see Jordan Phillips making it out of the first round, I would be thrilled to take him round 2. I don't know much about AJ Cann, has he played OT at all in college and projects best at OG? Most teams like versatility in there lineman. I think Clemmings or Ogbuehi would be gems if they fall to round 3.
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Depends on what type of front you want to run, a 2 gap NT frees up one ILBs. It is not necessary, but a bonus.
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Phillips is the only guy besides Shelton that I think can be a pure 3-4 NT that plays a 2 gap. I think if he makes it to NE, they draft him to replace Wilfork.
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Players do not have to be boy scouts, but breaking the rules cost being able to play in games. Where do you draw the line?
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I do like that mock also.
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With the 98th pick in the 3rd RD, the Kansas City Chiefs select ILB Taiwan Jones MSU. Kansas has rebuilt their o-line: Erick Flowers and Eric Fisher will man the OTs, Ben Grubbs and Paul Fanaika G's, and Hronis Grasu at C. Tre McBride WR will get a shot at the #2 opposite of Maclin. Taiwan Jones will has a good shot starting in the middle with Derrick Johnson. Cincy and Mongo are on the clock.
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Might be able to add Shane Ray to RD2 picks. He just got pulled over with pot, how stupid can you be.
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This mock by far has got me the most excited. Sure we missed on Oline, but defensively this would be a great building block. I would be happy with this outcome. 1-7 Amari Cooper WR - Hands down the safest 1000yd/yr capable prospect 2-39 Landon Collins SS- Marked as the best S in the draft but he is a tweener FS/SS. 3-71 Xavier Cooper DE/DT- Projects as a 3-4 DE, which after McDonald, Jenkins, and maybe Houston theres not much depth. 4-106 Marcus Golden OLB- pass rushing talent to step in 2016 5-142 Durrell Eskridge FS-big physical FS who could step in 6-183 Ladarious Gunter CB- nice size and speed to develop
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I don't want Mariota. He might have some good characteristics, but I think he is too big of an unknown if he can develop his skills to the NFL. I do not want Shane Ray or Randy Gregory,( and Beasley is almost in this category.) I think they will be liabilities in the run game. If they Bears were a dominant team, adding their speed would be great. The Bears are not dominant and teams will run at them. Brandon Scherf, yes he is mean and a road grader but #7 is too high for a probowl G. He could be a decent RT, but I think G is were he excels. That leaves Winston, Williams, Fowler, Cooper and White and my sleeper pick Bud Dupree who may sneak into the top 7. Narrowing down this group, I hope Cooper falls, then Williams, and White or a trade down happens.
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With the 91st pick, the Dallas Cowboys select DE Za'Darious Smith Kentucky. With Hardy out for 10 games, Marinelli gets a raw disrupter to discipline. He has a future 3T with Michael Bennett and a Jason Pierre-Paul clone in Smith. Denver is on the clock.... (Stinger)
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And they drafted Monte Ball pretty high to hopefully be their hot hand.
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The Bears biggest defensive needs are a two gap NT (Shelton), 2 Safeties, and a CB. Sure they can get by with smaller D lineman, but the key to being a great 3-4 is the ability to disquise your blitzes better. With Ratliff or Ego playing NT, teams will know they are one gap and a LB will take the other gap. Having a two gap NT will open a gap responsibility and free an extra LB adding pressure to the QB to avoid an INT to a free LB or getting sacked from an extra rusher. Two safeties in this weak class. I really like Eric Rowe from Utah, played both cb/s and is climbing the boards. It would be too high to grab him round 2, so if he is their rd3, I think he is our guy. Round 2, I'd like to get an OT or WR if we are lucky, TJ Clemming, Jake Fisher, or Cedric Ogbuehi are 3 guys to keep an eye on. WR there should be a handful. Round 4, might be a good round to take a flier on a developmental S, Prewitt, Derron Smith, Anthony Harris, Darrell Eskridge, or Campbell. One week from now the anticipation turns to reality.
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I would make that trade in a heartbeat. At 12 I would take Danny Shelton NT and at 19 Landon Collins S.