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Lol, I knew I could convert you with Mongo's insight. I'd like to know where he got his info from, pretty damning stats he put up. I know Webb might be all we have to work with.....but we took care of the ones responsible for giving us little to work with so hopefully the Bears address and take care of the rest from here on out.

Lovie's Termination Please read Mongos blog on cbssportlines page. It puts in perspective of what i've seen the whole time and why I haven't changed my mind after a pft stat. You might have to scroll back to the top on that link.

If I recall, that is Lovies philosophy. Lovie used preseason to evaluate individuals playing straight forward. No stunts or schemes, but to evaluate the player as if he was on an island. That would mean the lineman blocked the defender without help.

I think he'll be taken somewhere in the 3rd. If it was between Travis Frederick C/G Wis and Barrett Jones C/G AL, I would go Frederick all day.

True, I keep wishing we could land an OLT in the draft and don't see it unless for some reason Lane Johnson falls.Next year, there will be a few and that's how I thought of this.

Would you trade our 2013 first round pick for a 2014 first round and a 2013 third round pick? Lets say Kansas City drafts the OLT Joeckel with the first pick, and then wants to be sure they get QB Matt Barkley also. They give up the 2014 first round selection along with the 63 pick in RD3. It would hurt us this season, but next year we will be loaded to get a premier player or two, and we also get the top pick in RD3. 2014 prospects?? DE- Jadeveon Clowney SC OLT - Taylor Lewan Mich OLT - Jake Matthews Texas AM OLT - Cyrus Kouandjo AL OLT - David Yankey Stan It's definately a thought to consider, especially if we think the make or break player that would get us to the superbowl is a Jonathon Cooper G. Here's how the draft could play out RD2-50 Dallas Thomas G Ten RD3-63 Travis Frederick G/C Wis RD4-113 Kevin Reddick LB NC RD5-145 Josh Boyce WR TCU RD6-180 Chris Gragg TE Ark

I would pass on Jones, the experts are exposing him and he's dropping. I'd go Reddick MLB or Frederick at C/G if he is still on the board, or even a TE if ones has slipped.

I tried the cut/trade Bush thought but his cap hit would be to great. We are stuck with Bush next year for sure. I do think we need a speed RB, maybe we should look at projected UDFA's.

I've been reading this about him for a week or two. Since he has the bad foot, I'll pass and look for the kid out of Cal later for a center. Warmack and Flucker are real deals, I wouldn't be surprised if we end up with Flucker even though he projected more as a RT. I would personally rather take Cooper if he is there as we are short handed on G.

Thats fine, I never thought they would. I was using draftteks order and stated i knew it was unrealistic. Faulk is a gamble, if he stayed healthy he would've been in the top 10.

I put together a mock that I used the most recent drafttek's order. I know it's very unrealistic, but I picked from available players. So please don't try and argue that he won't be there in this round or that. I am using drafttek..... http://www.drafttek.com/2013-NFL-Mock-Draft-Round1.asp RD1 - Chance Warmack OG AL 6-3 320 RD2 - Chris Faulk OLT LSU 6-6 325 - If he never injured his knee, he'd be RD1 talent, should be ready to go in combine. RD4 - Brian Schwenke C Cal 6-3 305 RD5 - Kevin Reddick ILB NC 6-2 240 RD6 - Travis Kelce TE Cin 6-5 260

We should keep Spaeth as long as Davis gets cut. Spaeth will be on his last year and he is valuable. He was rarely counted on to be a recieving threat. If the Bears asked him do more as a WR, he can produce like he did when Davis was basically benched at the end of the season.

The oline cannot be ignored and needs the most amount of attention. I would prefer going that route through the draft. If by chance Lane Johnson is there it's a no brainer and if not, we should hope to move down.

If we sign Bushrod, we need to draft a LG in round 1 or 2 to groom next to him. Bushrod had a luxary of playing next to carl nicks and now ben grubbs, which definitely helps you look better.

I too think Lane Johnson would be a great choice, In round 2 we may be able to get a guard like Frederick or Warford. Save the money for resigning our own and mid level FA depth.

Technically since he's a UFA (soon to be), he's been diconnected. It's up to the Bears to welcome him back. Seems like a good choice even if he's 75-80% of the former player. He can give us time to find a replacement and be able to delcare his retirement as a memeber of the Bears.

Glad he's back, but I remember him pouting and throwing fits when he was benched. But if I remember right, we didn't use him right. I think he was better in the ss role and we had him more in the fs.

Lovies thought of only using the front 4 worked pretty good. We did mix it up by sending briggs often, along with the nickle cb and also the safety. If the front 4 are getting it done, that leaves the remaining 7 to take the ball away which we were great at. The new read option gave us fits as once the qb rolls out of the pocket, the gap responsibility is widened and hard to control. If the nfl continues that route, I would think a 3-4 would be better suited to attack that.

I would love that draft, three olinemen that would solidify our line. Add Webb, Carimi, Brown, and Louis and we have a great young core. Reddick would be a solid LB and ill take your word on the wr. That would put us in excellent shape next draft having all 7 picks to retool the defense and find some solid offensive depth.

I think if we were to rebuild, we will need more draft picks than 5. We all ready need to rebuid an offensive line, find a starting TE, speed wr and a young qb that would be a capable #2. I just don't see a reason this year especially when you had a top 10 defense.

Actually we are getting ripped on the deal according to the "draft pick trade value chart" by about 10-20 points. Have you seen how many draft picks the 49er's have this year.....they currently have 11 picks. 1.32, 2.30, 3.12 (from CAR), 3.32, 4.32, 5.24 (from IND), 5.32, 6.12 (from MIA), 6.32, 7.21 (from CIN), 7.32 FROM FFTOOLBOX,

I just have a feeling the first pick will go ogletree or eifert. A player that can take over a game. As much of an OL guy I am, I dont think we draft one in round 1 unless a warmack, fisher, or even cooper fall. I will take barrett jones, but have a feeling we pass on him unless we move down 5-6 spots in rd1.

Round1 - Alec Ogletree ILB Ga - With Urlachers days numbered, the Bears need to find a new center fielder to cover the middle. Emery has also stated that in round 1, he wants players that can win you games and be the difference maker. I think his speed/athletism will be a big boost to an aging D. They can opt to hold back and take someone like Fluker or Jones and have a solid player, but they are not known as players that can win games by themselves. I think going D in round 1 will give the Bears the freedom to use the rest of the draft rebuild the offense. Round2 - Trade to San Fransico for two 3rds, a 4th, and a 5th. San Fran had an abundance of picks anyways and opt for quality over quantity. Round3 (74) Travis Fredrick G/C Wis - Fredrick will be better as a G, but has the experience to play C as well Round3 (94) Brian Winters G/T Kent St - will be on the left side at G or T, IMO. LT may take a developmental year though. Kent's oline played fierce and attacked the opponent, very well coached unit that knew where to be on every play. Loved how they got to the second level every single play. Round 4 (114) Travis Kelce TE Cin - big, smooth, and great hands, solves one positioned that killed so many drives last season Round 4 (126)Johnathon Franklin RB UCLA- great size/speed, allows Bears to cut Bush and save $ Round 5 (146) Zac Dysert QB Miami of Oh - QB to groom, thought about using this pick to grab Aaron Rogers brother from Vanderbilt Round 5 (150) Marcus Davis WR VT - decent size and speed, can stretch the field. Round 6 (178) Brandon Moore DT Texas - best d-lineman available

I think it's getting old that people are wasting this much energy on this subject. I'm a ND fan, think he's flakey, will still be drafted in RD1, will still have a decent NFL career, wouldn't cry if the Bears took him, and think there's bigger issues than talking about Te'o and his imaginery girlfriend.

I would love Fisher, Minter, Kelce! That would be a great start if those 3 slipped to us. Spending a 5th on a C/G prospect also works well. 6th round would be the wildcard going to highest ceiling prospect available.