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I'd like to give props to Webb also. Cutler was only sacked when Garza stepped on his foot and he fell. Great game by the line.

I don't miss Olsen, he turned into us getting Marshall. I'd take that any day.

Too bad we don't have a 3rd Round pick haha! But I have Barrett Jones or Dallas Thomas as my round 1 selection.

I don't see the Bears using a draft pick as a #2 back up for Jay Cutler. With his injury history, they will definately want a serviceable vet IMO.

Its not that it should be every pick, but at least one every year in rounds one through 3. Not every pick makes it, but you have to keep plugging. A great offensive line will make an above average rb a hof'er. As we watch tonight's disaster, I'd like to hear what the Cutler critics have to say.

Hester package hmmm, I think a Bush package would be more interesting. Seeing him run the wildcat with Forte and Hester in the backfield or split out wide.

You are right, Carimi came into camp 10 pounds lighter, and added muscle to his leaner frame. He should be quicker and stronger... Couple things with Carimi is, he is going into his 9th NFL game and his knee is still probably not 100%. I think it is still too early to claim him as a bust. Sometimes it takes a year or two for these players to get there body/mind up to nfl caliber.

I agree, said this the past 4 years. Hoping Emery believes in this route also. There are a nice group of potential OLTs in this class and I would suspect the Bears seen this before we did and passed on reaching on a tackle like Rieff.

According to 670 the score, Bears negotiating with Lovie Smith on a two year extension.

I would be happy with the draft addressed like this: RD 1 = ODAY ABOUSHI OLT 6-6 310 VIRGINIA RD 2 = KEVIN REDDICK ILB 6-3 240 NORTH CAROLINA RD 3 = TRADE (BRANDON MARSHALL) RD 4 = ALVIN BAILEY OG 6-5 319 ARKANSAS

Jason, maybe Williams is just a nudge better but the long term outlook says play Webb. We may know Williams ceiling and since his contract expires after this year it might not be enough "better" to play him. Webb may not be the longterm answer either, but this gives us time to draft a player next draft and have a tc camp battle for playing time. This is the only viable reason I see, otherwise I think Williams would be playing somewhere along the front 5.

It was obvious that Gruden hit the sauce tonight!

I wish Jay would challenge his oline more. I have no issues with it. He has gotten killed way to often. Webb needs to toughen up and maybe getting yelled at and bumped will wake him up.

Its one thing for a RB to call out the line, but when a QB does so you better get things together. Webb just does not have what it takes to be an nfl lineman. You do not see any LT's in the league that tweet or fb like a little girl does. Webb needs to get a man card ordered today.

Jason, ive been with you on this for for what seems like almost a decade. When the board was about bashing Grossman and Benson, I defended them pointing out the horrid play of the line. Not that I wanted this team to keep those two, but good teams dont draft high qbs and rbs and not build around them. Angelo bought some time with fa's, but failed to replenish there. Point is, if we were stock piled with great linemen starting then, we would be in position to star drafting replacements for Urlacher/Tillman etc. We are behind the curve by two years it seems and to try and catch up, we have to trade our high draft picks. Lets hope a good gm can get this fixed.

I havent been impressed with special teams this year. We are not a top five st yet. I'll give it two more games since these first two weeks have been a blur.

This team every year has avoided the offensive line. If we do not address it this offseason, I'm thowing in the towel. What happened to the line is fine and adding a WR like Marshall ane Jeffery will fix the problem? Well the bright side is this years draft is loaded with OTs. I can really see the path the Bears have planned and that is to play Webb, let Williams walk since his contract expires and let the draft pick compete with Webb next year. Since we are short on picks this coming draft, we need to take two linemen with rounds one and two. A young guard is in dire needs too. The rest of the dratt can go defense. Then the following year we can go all out on D.

I pulled off I80 in Omaha and found a bdubs!!!

Thats how I took it too Grizzly. It's a conditioning issue that will take time to regain.

I completely agree we will need to add in that department hopefully in RD1 with OLT, But I also do not want to reach if the talent is not there. Like this year, Riely Reiff was available and as much as I want oline I wasn't upset we passed on him. The way the depth is looking this year at OLT, I think we may be pleased. I truly expect another season out of Urlacher so LB can wait until after RD1 unless that is our only option.

He was redshirted his rookie year and took his Mormon duties last year. So they don't know exactly what he can do. Clutts was a great lead blocker, but unga can do the same at a lower level but play a bigger role in a passing game and as a runner. I can see him moved up by mid season. I did like Clutts and think we will miss he lead blocker. Plus Unga is just as fun to say as Clutts. I guess the main argument I was pleading is I like him on the practice squad. Having him may have helped on the decision to trade Clutts, but he's still not on the 53. Now keeping Allen, I don't understand unless they plan on possibly releasing Booker if he fumbles.

That's just an opinion, fine. The team felt differently. Clutts will be missed, but keeping Adams is the direction Tice wants to go. Kliensasser is the route I see with keeping the TEs. At least we got something for him too. Unga holds value if Bush goes down for short yardage. Forte hasn't been successful there and we know Booker or Allen are just too small. It's a wise move having insurance on a practice squad.

I'm glad we're holding onto Unga. We invested in him and this is our first glance at him. He has some decent skills coming out of college and now that he's in camp, maybe we can translate what we saw. It's practice squad, so not a big deal. Imo. If Bush goes down, Unga could become a perfect goal line back. Pull up his draft profile, I see Toby Gerhart.

I will share my draft, which is a 12 team league: I had the #2 pick in a snake draft and this is the order I picked the players. QB's score 6 so they were a hot commodity in rd1. Ray Rice rb Eli Manning QB Maurice Jones Drew rb Hakeem Nicks wr Jeremy Maclin wr Reggie Bush rb Kenny Britt wr SF DEF Rashard Jennings rb Michael Crabtree wr Greg Olsen te Robbie Gould k

I think we will have to wait on drafting a safety and sign a solid vet while we develop Hardin. First two rounds will be olt, dt, or lb. I have a feeling once Urlacher is done, we change or philosophy. Unless we find another LB with his speed and range.