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In my book, I think this one wins. All the extra picks, Adams, Watson, and DeDe Westbrook in later rounds is pretty solid.

Yeah I saw that too. Not only a 'fail' but a diluted one too. Tells me he tried to skew the results and, as AZ noted, was probably part of why he acted like a douche at the hospital. I also read that his shoulder surgery he had earlier this year isnt healing as well as they had hoped. I'm not totally disinterested at this point but I'm sure not wanting him in the 1st round anymore. Maybe 3rd or even 4th...or not at all.

If last year was any indication and throw in the tough early weeks of this season, half our team will be on IR by the BYE week.

I could definitely see this. Cant say I'd be the least bit surprised if the Bears went back to 12 and more picks in the second. All this makes sense. In other news, I saw that Foster failed his drug test and not only that but it was "diluted". I had also read that he hadn't been healing as well as hoped from shoulder surgery earlier this year. So much for his 1st round hopes. Maybe with one of those extra #2s we'd still have a shot?

I'm with you... (aside from not believing I would 'say this'). And Reuben Foster. ? I know this isn't the question but I still really really hope that GB doesn't end up with Leonard Fournette.

I looked into your claim of many talking about Floyd as an option last year. As much as it pains me to admit, you suggested that he could be. Not many others agreed with that thought but nevertheless whether it be intuition, crystal ball, tarot cards or just luck, you predicted correctly. At any rate we'll see how this all shakes out in a little over a week. And as someone else pointed out this has been a difficult one to call. Could just about be anyone at this point in the first round.

I did say I'm good with them picking Foster, but not as an OLB. My question to you was about this remark: "I agree, but you'd be surprised at what people think. Even in this thread Alaska said he wouldn't mind an OLB." As it was an inference to Stinger's comment that people who mention Foster (or any other ILB) "...don't know what they're talking about".

Ryan? Is that you?

Probably/maybe not. Maybe there's another Robeto Arguyo (or Sebastian Janikowski) waiting to be discovered.

Not sure what that exactly means but I will reiterate this; how many here picked Floyd as the 1st pick last year? Or even Kevin White the year before that? I didn't endorse picking an OLB (in this thread) unless you thought I did by saying I like Foster. I did say I would like to see Christian Jones play better at OLB, or at least how well he could be if given the chance. I don't agree that any position is absolutley off the table; save maybe Guard, RB, Punter or Kicker.

If this guy is second rated to Foster, I'm in. I personally wouldn't mind if they chose Foster at three or whatever 1st round position they end up at. Suspect Trevathan is done or won't be a factor anymore. As far as OLB; I've always been a fan of Jones' and if memory serves he was a pretty successful OLB at Florida State...in a 3-4 no less. Perhaps Fangio sees potential in him now that he's seen him play the last two years? Maybe why his contract was renewed like it was? Draft will help us figure that one out a little better.

Yeah, right before Fisher was let go it got out he and Dickerson had been feuding. Here's one of several articles. http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/11/jeff-fishe...ngeles-rams-nfl

Perfect example of how much the "experts" know. That same draft that Cousins went 4th round was the same one RGIII went first. Although comparisons to both Russel Wilson and Dak Prescott (Watson) isn't too shabby.

I'd actually be ok with Kizer too, if hard pressed. As I've stated before I just have a 'thing' against us drafting a QB from ND. I still don't get Trubisky. He's got such a small sample size that I'm not sure how anyone can comfortably claim 'he's the one'. Like how you say Watson has 'tendancies' (speculative) due to his longer playing career you can't say that as much with a guy who only has 13 games as a starter. And he played for NC. And I keep seeing although on the NC team for 4 years couldn't beat out former starter Marquisse Williams (who?). I just don't know. Bucky Brooks made a comparison of Trubisky that really made me cringe. That being to a one Marc Sanchez (one year starter in college that didn't translate to the NFL). Ewww...

Maybe not the top playmaker, but a great overall veteran influence for a young team.

If we don't end up with Watson as the first then Adams would be my #1a choice. Not only is he a great player but like Watson has a lot of great intangiables (leadership being one of them). Can't say as I'm familiar with Humphery but I've been wishing the Bears would add an Alabama DB for a couple years now. Still disappointed they missed on Collins and Clinton-Dix these last few years.

With regards to Watson and his TO rate; you forgot to mention his 41 TDs last year and 35 the year before. Along with over 4,000 yds each year. I don't know if you can dink and dunk your way to 4000 yards through screens and slants but ok. By the way, Matt Ryan threw 19 INTs to 31 TDs his senior year at BC. I might also add that Jay Cutler threw 9 INTs to his 21 TDs his senior year, so there is that. Watson has to be measured more for than just his QB performance (in fact they all should be). He has intelligence and proven leadership on the field (besides being a stand up guy). All elements our very young team needs. Although personally not a fan I see some similarities to Watson and Jaimes Winston who was known to TO the ball with great frequency but somehow managed to still win despite it. Some would say he's cobbling together a pretty good career in TB so far. Once again those QBs that could be eligible for the draft are next year. Where will we be drafting next year and how many of them could the Bears actually have a shot at? How many of them; like Darnold a Freshman, will be able to sustain their play? How many of them potentially could become injured? Will these guys be playing in and winning any national championships in the next year or two? Bottom line, my guess is the team is going to choose the player they best fits their needs for this year. Will it be a DLman, DB or QB? Still anyone's guess, but I don't think we can discount any top performing player of those positions.

I like this Mullin guy. Also appears this Gabriel cat has similar thinking (below). http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2017/04/13/mor...back-nfl-draft/ Still trying to figure out two things; why is Trubisky rated as high as he is? And about next years QB class, where are these hidden gem(s) I keep hearing about? Really curious. Anyone???

I think Fisher's ouster was more a deeper issue than him not starting Goff right away. In fact Keenum was starting out not so bad until the Giants game in week 7. Despite Keenums four TOs in that game Fisher first said he'd be remain the starter then shortly after that reversed course again and named Goff the starter. Weigh that with his infamous mistreatment of Eric Dickerson and his general mediocrity while Rams coach; i think is what brought it to a head. The one thing going for Pace is that he didn't sign Glennon to a multi-year (guaranteed) Franchise QB deal. We still really don't know what he's capable of. With Keenum you had to think he'd eventually flame out and had Fischer done a bette job of guaging that he might still have been with the Rams. Again in Fox' corner you have his ability to bring different teams to the SB. All the while using retread QBs. Will he do it again soon? Still remains to be seen, but to me none of this precludes them from picking a QB at 3.

EXCELLENT POST Lucky. Couldn't agree more. Especially like the idea of potentially having a 'good' problem with two decent starting caliber QB's that could be trade worthy. Again the fact of how Glennon's contract is set up tells me plenty. Nothing guaranteed like when they signed Cutler to that ridiculous contract a few years back.

Just because I'm curious; why is Trubisky (at QB) even THE topic of discussion? What has he done? Who has he played against? He's got what 13 games started under his belt and??? Is it because "experts" like Kiper and Mayock deem it so? He didn't play on an NFL style offense and of those 13 starts has a record of 8-5 so again, what gives? Granted I live in Alaska so it's possible I'm removed a bit from reality but still I wonder. Of course if Cleveland or SF think he worthy then fine by me.

I don't want those guys, I want Watson.

Something I saw yesterday on NFL network said there is more 1st round talent than there are actual 1st round picks. I didn't hear if that was position or defense/offense specific; but given how potentially early the Bears will pick in the first two rounds we could certainly end up with quality players in those first two rounds.

I keep hearing that 'next years' QB class is supposed to be better. I have to ask, who are these prospects and what have they done to make them that much better? The guy I like, Watson, played pretty much consistent through the last two years AND did that while playing Alabama in the last two championships. You realize how many of those same Alabama players will probably be picked in the first round? And how many more will be starting in the NFL next year? Who right now, in the college ranks is doing that?

Agreed. And the argument about picking a QB early this year versus next is extremely valid. Why else do you think they set up Glennon's contract with an 'escape clause' like they did? If they decide a QB is worthy of the #3 pick this year then they can get him now and either use him if need or have him ready next year if need. Presumably Glennon will do 'just enough' not to lose; ergo be a game manager where he could theoretically become a backup next year or off the team entirely. If he bombs out and we need a younger QB who has had time in the system, we're already set. I for one don't see the team playing less than .500 because if they do, I don't see John Fox (and quite possibly Pace) returning next year. Of course all that being said you have to look at trends and who has the most influence on the Bears staff. Fox and Fangio are defensive minded guys. Both have led teams (or parts of teams) to Super Bowls. One has been and is an HC. The other has been considered a few times as an HC. His (Fangios) defenses have a history of dominating in the past. The same can't be said about Loggains and his offensive acumen. The 'trend' factor plays in that more and more teams are putting more money on the defense. OLBs and pass rushers are fast becoming the hot commodity (thanks to Von Miller). However I don't think that guarantees we pick an OLB/pass rusher or Dlineman first (already did that last year) but I would be willing to bet that first pick will be a defensive player.