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Is this the beginning of a House cleaning???

I thought someone said his cap hit goes to 15 million next year. I just read that this year its 7, next year it 8 and then 8.5 the following year. These cap hits are not bad for a WR of his caliber. Having BM on your team is actually cap friendly. I don't get it. It makes sense if his cap hits kept going up greatly but they don't. As he gets older his production will slow down and if he counted for 12 or 13 million at 32 or 33 years old I would say that would be a bad thing. Even at 33 year old lets say he loses a step and production goes down, at 8.5 mill its not a bad situation. You will not find a WR as good as BM for 8 million a year. Unless you draft Amari Cooper at 7(which then the cap hit is way lower) but I really don't want that with needing talent on the D side of the ball so badly.

It makes sense long term, but it still don't like it. Im hoping in two or three years this move looks great. If they use the BM money to go and get Randall Cobb I will be loving it. They only save 4 million in cap space this year but save 7mil in salary. Then next year BM cap hit and salary jumped up. Guess BM wont have to fly anywhere to do his Showtime show.....

I could see BM buying into the Patriot Way real quick. Now that you bring it up, why are they not trading for him???? They have already succeed once before with Moss. I know someone will throw the Ochocinco out there, but I wouldnt put BM and Ochodouche in the same arena. The more I think about it I do not want to see BM go from a fan standpoint. Seeing his cap hit rise the next year tells me its time to get rid of him now.

Having a pretty similar WR in Alshon makes BM movable. It makes sense. I like BM, think he has 2 to 3 good to great years left but if they can improve the overall talent level and licker room culture by trading him then I understand it. Looks like this could be a very interesting off season. BM ?? Cutty??? Forte????? Which FA do they bring in????

Trading Shady for Kikko helps the D and then they can use the cap space saved by getting rid of Shady to sign more players. Chip can easily get a good RB in the draft. Makes sense, but trading one of the best backs in the NFL is kind of nuts.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000047...agents-for-2015 Tier 1: Difference-makers 1. Ndamukong Suh, DT, Detroit Lions: Outside of quarterbacks and the two unanimous All-Pros (J.J. Watt, Rob Gronkowski), Suh and Odell Beckham are the two unique talents around whom we would most like to build a franchise. A double-team defeater against the run as well as the pass, Suh is on a Hall-of-Fame career path. Suh is likely to hit free agency after the Lions chose not to use the franchise tag on him. 2. Devin McCourty, S, New England Patriots: The converted cornerback is not only one of the NFL's best coverage safeties, but also a respected leader on the Super Bowl champions' defense. McCourty, 27, considers New England home and wants to stay, but he will be in high demand if he hits free agency. The Patriots riskily chose not to tag him. 3. Julius Thomas, TE, Denver Broncos: The two-time Pro Bowl selection isn't much of a blocker and has struggled with ankle injuries in multiple seasons. Those concerns are trumped by a rare skill set as a mismatch creating space in the middle of the field, excelling after the catch and posting up in the red zone. Thomas is a difference-making talent in the prime of his career. There will be plenty of demand if he hits the market, as expected. 4. Randall Cobb, WR, Green Bay Packers: With Wes Welker in decline, Percy Harvin an annual enigma and Victor Cruz injured, Cobb is the NFL's undisputed slot king entering the 2015 offseason. He's a punt returner after the catch and has a mind meld with Aaron Rodgers on broken plays. If the Packers are serious about a Super Bowl run, Cobb must be re-signed. 5. DeMarco Murray, RB, Dallas Cowboys: Murray was a tackle-breaking monster for the first three months of the season en route to Offensive Player of the Year honors. The No. 1 concern for potential suitors isn't the benefit of the Cowboys' dominant offensive line. It's that Murray was saddled up for a back-breaking 497 touches. He wasn't as elusive in December and January. If Dallas applies the tag to Bryant, Murray could be set free. Tier 2: Impact Starters 6. Jerry Hughes, DE, Buffalo Bills: Hughes has averaged 10.0 sacks and 40 quarterback hurries over the past two years -- numbers that place him just below Pro Bowl level. How much of that production is the result of feasting on easier matchups provided by the presence of dominant talents such as Marcell Dareus, Kyle Williams and Mario Williams? 7. Mike Iupati, G, San Francisco 49ers: He has been among the best maulers in the run game at guard in the entire league throughout his career. But Iupati is not great in pass protection and isn't coming off his best season. 8. Greg Hardy, DE, Carolina Panthers: Hardy is not available to be signed until he comes off the Commissioner's Exempt List, and he could be facing further suspension. But his talent, production and age are worth ranking in the top five here. Someone will give him a chance. 9. Byron Maxwell, CB, Seattle Seahawks: He's the best option in a relatively thin cornerback crop. That makes him a candidate to be overpaid, but he'd fit well with former Seahawks assistants Gus Bradley or Dan Quinn. 10. Torrey Smith, WR, Baltimore Ravens: Speed kills. Smith has averaged nearly 17 yards per catch for his career and regularly draws long pass interference penalties. Just don't expect him to be a true No. 1 receiver. 11. Jason Worilds, LB, Pittsburgh Steelers: He doesn't always finish plays with sacks, but Worilds consistently pressures the quarterback. He will get paid. 12. Pernell McPhee, OLB/DE, Baltimore Ravens: He can rush standing up from the outside or play defensive tackle. But plenty of Ravens defenders have struggled away from Baltimore. 13. Jeremy Maclin, WR, Philadelphia Eagles: He might not be as productive away from Chip Kelly's system. We suspect Kelly won't let him get away. 14. Nick Fairley, DT, Detroit Lions: A boom-or-bust pickup, Fairley can be one of the best at his position when motivated. 15. Bryan Bulaga, T, Green Bay Packers: In a tackle-thin market, Bulaga offers rock solid starter status on the right side. 16. Jared Odrick, DT, Miami Dolphins: Quality, versatile defensive line starters are not easy to find in free agency. 17. Terrance Knighton, DT, Denver Broncos: One of the NFL's premier run-stuffers, Knighton has played for new Raiders coach Jack Del Rio in every one of his six seasons. He's a better scheme fit in Oakland than Denver. 18. Rodney Hudson, C, Kansas City Chiefs: There are whispers that Hudson's goal is to become the NFL's highest-paid center. We aren't quite as high on him as we were on Alex Mack last year. Tier 3: Starters with questions 19. Brandon Graham, DE/OLB, Philadelphia Eagles: Best suited as a defensive end in a 4-3 defense, Graham has been a highly effective rotational pass rusher as an outside linebacker in Philly's 3-4 scheme. Wesseling prefers him to Worilds. 20. Derrick Morgan, DE, Tennessee Titans: Much like Graham, Morgan gets more pressures than sacks. He's also best utilized as a defensive end in a 4-3 scheme. He went to college in Atlanta. It's no secret that the Falcons' top need is pass rusher. 21. Brandon Flowers, CB, San Diego Chargers: Flowers is looking down the barrel of age 30, is too often nicked up and has size limitations that will scare off some teams. On the flip side, he played at a high level in bounce-back season last year. 22. Brian Orakpo, OLB, Washington Redskins: Prior to getting hit with the franchise tag early last March, Orakpo held down a top-10 spot on our list -- only to go down with his third career torn pectoral injury. The Falcons were reportedly hot on his trail at this time in 2014. 23. Kareem Jackson, CB, Houston Texans: After struggling early in his career, Jackson has developed into a solid starter capable of playing inside and outside. He's tight with Vance Joseph, the Bengals' esteemed defensive backs coach. 24. Mark Ingram, RB, New Orleans Saints: Still just 25 years old with little tread on his tires, Ingram should attract plenty of interest on the heels of a breakout 2014 season. The cap-strapped Saints can't afford a back of his caliber. 25. Michael Crabtree, WR, San Francisco 49ers: Crabtree denied playing through a foot injury last season, but the game film suggests otherwise. Any team signing him will have to hope he can recover the impressive pre-Achilles tear form that helped propel the 49ers into Super Bowl XLVII. 26. Ryan Mathews, RB, San Diego Chargers: While injury prone, Mathews is one of the hardest-running early-down backs in the league. He's a perfect player to pair with a pass-catching back in the draft. 27. C.J. Spiller, RB, Buffalo Bills: Chris Wesseling wanted to rank Spiller much higher, but "peak Spiller" has only come out once in five seasons. He's a great complementary part, not a foundation to build around. 28. Charles Clay, TE, Miami Dolphins: More of a versatile H-back than a big-bodied tight end, Clay is reportedly seeking $6 million annually. The Dolphins want to keep him, but they'll have competition from the Bills and others. The Dolphins placed the transition tag on him, meaning they can match any offer sheet he signs elsewhere. 29. Jabaal Sheard, DE, Cleveland Browns: Often overlooked and overrated, Sheard can provide solid starter snaps at a reasonable price. 30. Orlando Franklin, G/T, Denver Broncos: He excelled as a guard last season, and Franklin's versatility to help out at right tackle will earn him money in a thin offensive line market. 31. Chris Culliver, CB, San Francisco 49ers: He hasn't been the most consistent player throughout his career and he previously suffered a torn ACL, but Culliver has loads of talent. He's coming off a strong season and has a high ceiling. 32. Rahim Moore, S, Denver Broncos: Forget that play against Baltimore. Moore has developed into a quality starting safety, and he's only 25 years old. 33. Dan Williams, NT, Arizona Cardinals: Williams has improved every season since getting taken in the first round during the Whisenhunt/Graves era. There are way more 3-4 defenses in the NFL than there are true nose tackles like Williams. 34. Jordan Cameron, TE, Cleveland Browns: If this list came out a year ago, Cameron would have ranked in the top 15 because he's a matchup nightmare. Concussion woes now jeopardize Cameron's future. 35. Frank Gore, RB, San Francisco 49ers: The Inconvenient Truth can still block, catch and turn a 1-yard stuff into a 4-yard gain like a boss. He's a nice veteran short-term pickup for a team seeking a title. 36. B.J. Raji, DT, Green Bay Packers: 2013 was an off year. 2014 was an injury year. The talent is there, but it's been a while since we've seen it. 37. David Harris, LB, New York Jets: Harris is on the wrong side of 30, but he's reportedly drawing interest from the Bills, Dolphins, Bears and Falcons, in addition to the Jets. 38. Stefen Wisniewski, C, Oakland Raiders: Wisniewski is a solid starter in his prime. So why are the Raiders being linked to Hudson as his replacement? 39. Davon House, CB, Green Bay Packers: House is seeking a starting job after four years as a sub-package corner in Green Bay. Don't be surprised if the Packers re-sign him and allow Tramon Williams to walk. 40. Tramon Williams, CB, Green Bay Packers: Williams was an above-average starter last season, but he turns 32 years old next month. He will have to settle for a short-term contract. 41. Stephen Paea, DT, Chicago Bears: The Bears have struggled up front against the run, but Paea did emerge as a disruptive pocket pusher last season. 42. Henry Melton, DT, Dallas Cowboys: A Rosenthal favorite, Melton was effective for the majority of last season as an interior pass rusher. 43. Brandon Spikes, LB, Buffalo Bills: Spikes has a niche skill-set as a premier two-down run-stuffer. 44. Antonio Cromartie, CB, Arizona Cardinals: Still a quality starter, Cromartie seems likely to follow Todd Bowles to New York for a reunion with the Jets. 45. Sean Weatherspoon, LB, Atlanta Falcons: Weatherspoon was the Falcons' top defender before Lisfranc, knee and Achilles injuries limited him to 20 of a possible 48 games over the last three seasons. 46. Cecil Shorts, WR, Jacksonville Jaguars: Similar to Miles Austin a few years back, Shorts is a strong after-the-catch threat whose explosiveness has been sapped by lingering soft-tissue injuries. Word around the campfire is that he is interested in a Cleveland homecoming. 47. Shane Vereen, RB, New England Patriots: The Gronk generation's answer to Kevin Faulk in New England, Vereen is basically a younger version of Reggie Bush at this point. 48. Antrel Rolle, S, New York Giants: The weekly hot takes on his radio appearances are more consistent than his pass coverage. 49. Doug Free, T, Dallas Cowboys: Notice how there are only right tackles available in free agency? 50. Rolando McClain, LB, Dallas Cowboys: Does any team want to bet on lightning striking twice without any more drama? McClain probably has more value to the Cowboys than any other team. 51. Perrish Cox, CB, San Francisco 49ers: Something is in the water in San Francisco, where the 49ers have coached up a lot of cornerbacks to career years. Cox played like a Pro Bowl pick for much of last season. 52. Clint Boling, G, Cincinnati Bengals: True starting guards like Boling usually get paid big money on the open market. 53. Jake Locker, QB, Tennessee Titans: Accuracy and durability are issues, but Locker has a higher ceiling than any of the other quarterback options in free agency. At best, he should compete to start. 54. Justin Forsett, RB, Baltimore Ravens: Don't expect a big contract after Forsett's big season, but he's a nice fit for any team running zone blocking. 55. Da'Norris Searcy, S, Buffalo Bills: With few quality safeties out there, Searcy looks like a smart value pickup. 56. Joe Barksdale, T, St. Louis Rams: You can plug him in to start at right tackl 57. Kenny Britt, WR, St. Louis Rams: The good: Britt established a career-high with 48 receptions last season. The bad: He topped 70 yards in just two games. 58. James Carpenter, OG, Seattle Seahawks: Too often a liability in pass protection, Carpenter hasn't lived up to his first-round draft pedigree. Tier 4: Needs the right role 59. Ryan Mallett, QB, Houston Texans: Here's what we know about Mallett: He has an impressive whip; the Patriots gave him away for a sixth-round draft pick; it took him three months to unseat Ryan Fitzpatrick; coach Bill O'Brien protected him with an outstanding game plan in his first start; he went down with a season-ending injury in his second start. 60. Justin Blalock, G, Atlanta Falcons: He has been a solid starter throughout his career, but is on the wrong side of 30. He'll have suitors. 61. Walter Thurmond, CB, New York Giants: Thurmond was a highly effective slot corner in 2013, but that is the only season in which he has stayed healthy. 62. Buster Skrine, CB, Cleveland Browns: Playing opposite Joe Haden, Skrine has been targeted more than any cornerback in the league over the past two years. At 5-foot-9 and 185 pounds, he might be viewed as an inside corner on the open market. 63. Mark Sanchez, QB, Philadelphia Eagles: At one point last season, Sanchez had joined Andrew Luck, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady and Peyton Manning as the only quarterback overseeing an offense that averaged more than 30 points and 400 yards per game. Then he reverted into one of the game's most mistake-prone signal-callers with the season on the line. 64. Kendrick Lewis, S, Houston Texans: Lewis salvaged his value by emerging as one of the most consistent defensive backs in Houston after a subpar showing with the Chiefs in 2013. 65. Brian Hoyer, QB, Cleveland Browns: If the goal is to hold the fort for a raw rookie, teams could do a lot worse than Hoyer. If the goal is to contend for the playoffs with Hoyer under center, his limitations will be exposed -- just as they were down the stretch last season. 66. Mason Foster, LB, Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Foster didn't fit Lovie Smith's defense, but looked like a decent young starter in 2013. Perhaps he could join old friend Raheem Morris in Atlanta. 67. Dwight Freeney, LB/DE, San Diego Chargers: Freeney is strictly a situational pass rusher now, although he can still be effective. 68. Reggie Bush, RB, Detroit Lions: For the right price (one-year, $3.5 million), Bush can still help teams as a passing-down threat. 69. Bruce Carter, LB, Dallas Cowboys: Carter makes plenty of big plays, but he gives them up as well. 70. Cory Redding, DE, Indianapolis Colts: Aside from Vontae Davis, Redding was outplaying anyone on the Colts' defense in the playoffs last season. 71. Brooks Reed, LB, Houston Texans: Peter King once predicted Reed would win Defensive Player of the Year. That should be worth something. 72. Kendall Langford, DT, St. Louis Rams: Quality rotation defensive linemen are not easy to find. Langford was only cut because he was paid big money and was backing up Aaron Donald. 73. Jermaine Gresham, TE, Cincinnati Bengals: He's a below average starter and an above average backup. 74. Rey Maualuga, LB, Cincinnati Bengals: Marvin Lewis' defense struggled without Maualuga and his instincts last year. He's a decent bet to return. 75. Jarvis Jenkins, DE, Washington Redskins: Jenkins never made the leap as a second-round draft pick billed as the prototype 3-4 defensive end. 76. Mike Adams, S, Indianapolis Colts: Adams exceeded expectations as a late-period free-agent signing, solidifying the back end of the Colts' defense. Will there be much interest in a 34-year-old safety? 77. Akeem Ayers, LB, New England Patriots: Ayers played a key role for the Super Bowl champions after the 2-14 Titans couldn't find a spot for him. 78. Hakeem Nicks, WR, Indianapolis Colts: Nicks regained a semblance of his playmaking form down the stretch last season, but the Colts didn't think highly enough of him to bench an obviously struggling Reggie Wayne. 79. Karl Klug, DE, Tennessee Titans We see Klug as a situational pass rusher who could surprise with six to eight sacks in a 4-3 defense like Seattle's. 80. Tyvon Branch, S, Oakland Raiders: Branch was a quality starter in his prime, but severe lower-leg injuries have limited him to just five of 32 games over the past two years. We don't know how he will bounce back at age 28. 81. Barry Cofield, DT, Washington Redskins: He's coming off an injury-plagued season, but run stuffing nose tackles are very hard to find. 82. Stevan Ridley, RB, New England Patriots: Ridley is an interesting power back, albeit one coming off ACL surgery. 83. Roy Helu, RB, Washington Redskins: Helu might have overtaken Pierre Thomas as the best screen-pass specialist in the league last year. 84. Ahmad Bradshaw, RB, Indianapolis Colts: Bradshaw is effective whenever he plays. Unfortunately, that seems to be roughly a half-dozen times per year. One of the most hard-charging backs in the league has been betrayed by his lower legs. 85. Darnell Dockett, DT, Arizona Cardinals: Anyone signing Dockett will get a great Twitter account, but he's going to be a part-time player coming off ACL surgery. 86. Ahtyba Rubin, DT, Cleveland Browns: Rubin once had a reputation as a premier run-plugger. The Browns had the league's worst run defense in 2014. 87. Adrian Clayborn, DE, Tampa Bay Buccaneers: The No. 20 overall pick in the 2011 NFL Draft ended up playing just 36 games in four years with the Bucs. Even when healthy, Clayborn hasn't been disruptive as a pass rusher. 88. Charles Tillman, CB, Chicago Bears: Former coach Marc Trestman believed that Tillman was playing at a Pro Bowl level early last season. On the other hand, Tillman is a 34-year-old cornerback coming off a second torn triceps injury. 89. Lance Briggs, LB, Chicago Bears: The seven-time Pro Bowl selection isn't going to hang with tight ends in coverage in his mid-thirties, but he can still provide solid run defense with a move inside if the Bears opt to bring him back for a 13th season. 90. Rob Housler, TE, Arizona Cardinals: Housler is one of the NFL's speediest tight ends, but Bruce Arians doesn't have any use for that species if they don't block. He needs a change of scenery. 91. Denarius Moore, WR, Oakland Raiders: A perennial tease. 92. C.J. Mosley, DT, Detroit Lions: A late bloomer, Mosley is coming off the most effective season of his 10-year career. 93. Patrick Robinson, CB, New Orleans Saints: An oft-burned first-round draft bust through four seasons, Robinson was noticeably stingier in coverage last year. 94. Ron Parker, S, Kansas City Chiefs: A career special teamer, Parker started 15 games last season, splitting his time between cornerback and safety. That versatility has value. 95. Anthony Spencer, DE, Dallas Cowboys: Returning from microfracture surgery, Spencer struggled to make an impact before coming on in late December. 96. Brian Hartline, WR, Miami Dolphins: He had two recent 1,000-yard seasons and he's not yet 30, but Hartline is best used as a third receiver. 97. O'Brien Schofield, DE, Seattle Seahawks: Schofield flashed as a rotational pass rusher on a Super Bowl team. 98. Malcolm Smith, LB, Seattle Seahawks: Smith went from Super Bowl MVP to Super Bowl benchwarmer in one calendar year. Perhaps Dan Quinn will recruit him to Atlanta. 99. Stevie Brown, S, New York Giants: He's a playmaker at a position that looks awfully thin in this market. 100. Harry Douglas, WR, Atlanta Falcons: Only one season removed from a 1,000-yard campaign, Douglas can upgrade plenty of No. 3 receiver slots out there. 101. Michael Vick, QB, New York Jets: We still believed Vick could help a team last offseason, but his heart didn't seem to be in the one-year Jets stint.

4 may have been a stretch but you get my point, signing 2 or 3 good players and 1 stud may work with the 100 mil 60mil gur...... What will these guys get in new contracts? McCourty - clearly the best S in FA, not sure what the price tag will be Randall Cobb - WR type the Bears need while upgrading the SP Mike Iupati - kick Long out to Tackle and you just made two spots better with one signing Rahim Moore- cheaper S upgrade Could you sign 2 or 3 of these guys with 100mil????? WR is deep in this years draft, may be you don't sign Cobb. Safety is weak in this years draft, maybe you want to sign both of these guys. I really like the idea of signing Mike Iupati, McCourty and Moore (maybe this couldn't be done for 100 mil). Then you go find a speed rusher OLB, NT and WR in the draft.

Isn't Suh best suited for DT in a 4-3 scheme? Wouldn't it make more sense to fill two or three positions with that type of money??? I'm talking 2 or 3 studs.... Shit 4 great players for that money. I just think the Bears have too many holes to tie up in one player.

John Harbaugh is in a different world than Mark Trestman. I dont know him but he looks like a guys guy, natural leader. Trestman looks the exact opposite. From what one Bear said his meeting would lose guys because they didnt understand what he was talking about, maybe too smart for his own good. Harbaugh had a strong locker room to help buy in. Ray Lewis ran the show. It helps when a HC is trying to set the culture of the team. ' Trestman was hired and most of the players still wanted Lovie, he didnt win any guys by the way 54 was treated. There were decisions made by Emery and Trestman that set this train on a course of destruction.

Trestman messed with the captain set up and the locker room set up. The locker room is known to be the players domain. I bet Trest would change how we would do things if he got the chance. I do not see him getting another chance.

not sure how the cap works but if the bears traded for him and restructured the deal would it change the cap hit? not that i want him, just asking

The Bears need to get younger at all cost not trade for another aging WR who is not as good as the aging WR we have. Johnson and Marshal are the same type of WR, big tall possession type of WR's just like Alshon. If the Bears were to unload BM , I would want a Randall Cobb type of WR. Smaller, faster, stretch the field type of guy.

You are right about having Rodgers, but they have Peppers at 12 mill and still have a ton of cap space because they draft well.

When deciding on trading BM or not the two big things you need to consider : 1. Can the new LEADERSHIP keep BM contained? 2. Do they expect to win now? If they think they can win now and contain him then its a no brainer you keep him because he is still one of the best WR in the game and will probably be near the top for a couple of more years. If they think they wont be able to win or get into the playoffs then you may think about trading him. Unloading his contract will help with filling other needs but then opens up the need for another WR addition. WR is deep for this draft. If they feel he wont be able to be contained, you may want to trade him sending a message to everyone that no one is untouchable. We gave up two 3rd round draft picks 3 years ago, what does two 3rd's equal??? Does it equal a 2nd???? The reason I ask, when the Bears traded for him there was a lot of questions concerning his behavior on and off the field. He has proven to be past the off the field stuff, and up until the wheels completely falling of last year he was a great teammate saying and doing all the right things. He organized workouts with teammates in the off season, took Alshon under his wing. Wonder if they are doing the off season workouts together this year?? I think getting one 2nd Rounder for BM could be done, but what the freak do I know. The Bears are old and need a big injection of youth and talent, maybe trading BM to a contender for a 2nd would be the best option. The Colts need a BM type of WR, they would seem to be potential suitor. Looking fwd to seeing Pace work some magic because the Bears desperately need a little magic to turn this around.

yes, All world talent, size(6'5 237), speed (4.49) and strength with all world freak up personal life decisions. Not saying I wouldn't like the Bears to draft him if he fell in the draft. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players...l-green-beckham

Wish List 1. Randall Cobb- subtraction from GB while making the Bears better on Offense and SP 2. Mike Iupati - Make two positions better, move Long to Tackle replace with Iupati 3. James Houston- OLB would be huge get but really expensive 4. Rahim Moore- would be a cheap upgrade would love McCourty but not sure if he will hit the free market

Every time i see or hear Emery's name I want to puke..........

Petty impressed at the combine. Watching him play I think the guy can play. Would love to see him drafted by the Bears.

If a guy at 6'3 245 runs a 4.5 his 20 yard shuttle will be good. Freeny was a 4.5/4.6 guy. Speed kills when shorter and lighter dealing with 300+ OT's. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1860857/shane-ray Sorry I was wrong it said he was 4.4 guy..... not a 4.5 guy. 4.4 guys are quick and have top end speed. Not sure where CBS got the 4.4, either way we will see shortly at the combine.

I all for it. I think the Bears can win with Cutler but the big reason I say try that is because of his contract. If they can get out from underneath it and then feel they have a better option then do it!!!

Didnt think about the leverage Cutler has with guaranteed money with taking a pay cut. From the info Dabomb posted it looks like they may be trying to get a trade market going for Cutler.

WOW...... some of the guys that want him gone may get their wish. That clause makes it a lot more interesting. I do think you can win with Cutler in the right situation. Other teams will have believe that too if they are going to trade for him. With Cutler gone, who do ya, who do ya, who do ya????? College QB??? Vet?????

I think I saw that he is either a 4.5 or 4.4 forty guy, which is insane for a OLB. IF he is there at 7 I would love this pick.

1. Can they restructure his deal making it more cap friendly? Or should I say ask him to take a pay cut and then make the contract more incentive based??? 2. Is this their way of putting it out there that he is on the trading blocks??? 3. Could they be making their decision to cut him or keep him? Pace and Fox may just say freak it and cut him opening up money next year and eating it now. If you didn't hear it or see it, Jay Gruden came out and said RG3 is their starting QB next season. Fox and Pace went the complete other way with their press conference. I wonder if their dinner with McCown was a little bit of a Cutler research meeting. Who better to ask about Cutler than the guy who backed him up for a year. They very easily could have said we will express interest in bringing you to Chicago to help make your market look stronger for some inside info on Cutler.