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Don't forget trading Anthony Miller is still in play, maybe Miller and the 5th to go up in the 4th? One thing is for sure, Pace will always surprise us.

I hate giving away draft picks but I can't argue with the 2 players we have. When it's over we can be optimistic about who we have or complain that we gave up draft picks. I prefer to make myself happy since we won't know how this draft turns out for a couple of years.

In 3 yrs your question will be answered . He will find away to grab a WR that will compete. That will make this draft an overwhelming success.

I don't like giving away draft picks but getting 2 of the top 20 players in the draft is a good score. Potential franchise QB and potential all pro RT. This draft will be looked backed on as one of Paces best drafts.

What do you base that on? Hard to say how someone develops but nothing says either of them are going to fail by their careers so far. Two things I like about Fields is his work ethic and love of football. Some players just play for the money, he legitimately loves the game. Plays hurt and was the person responsible for getting the Big 10 to actually play this year. 4.4 speed doesn't hurt either.

As much as I would give our whole draft to see that happen, it ain't happening. If he cries to much, they will just give him more money to shut up.

In this order; Jenkins Cosmi Radutz Eichenberg Christensen Forsythe Little Carmen I would say Cosmi-Radutz- Eichenberg ( one of them ) should be there. Otherwise in the third Christensen- Forsythe- Little.

I hated the idea of trading up for a QB but , at 11, being able to keep 2nd and 3rd round pick will still fill some needs to make the team better. Fields is the second best QB in this draft and to be able to get him at 11 with only giving away one first round pick and a 5, 4 next year i is great. This could be our franchise QB. After reading about him, I love the pick. He was responsible for getting the big 10 to play football this year. He is a hard worker and loves the game. Him and Lawrence were the top 2 ranked players coming out of high school that .year. production?? 67 TDs- 9 interceptions. 19 on the ground with 4.4 speed. After all these years this could be the one.

Where the problem comes in , they all are treated the same, they don't know which ones will succeed or fail.

Here's what I want to happen. 1) Trevan Jenkins OT 2) Kellen Mond QB 3) Amari Rodgers WR 5) Stone Forsythe LT 5) TRADE 2X 6S. Zach McPherson CB 6) Paris Ford SS 6) Cris Rumph OLB

The rest sounds good but don't think they're moving up that high (4). Other teams will be trying to move there to and have more power. I think , probably will move up in late first or early 2nd to grab Mond , it will cost less, the second rounder , 5th rounder, and a future 2nd, we can still get a OT, and WR with the first and third. They will push offense in this draft. They will trade 2 6s to move up in 5 to grab a CB.

Parcels was known for running the ball and playing great defense. I don't remember him as the QB whisperer. No matter how you frame it, QB is the hardest position to evaluate. I think the best strategy is take one every year and hope you get lucky. People like Lance because of his measurements, he hasn't proven himself yet which means he should be a 2nd or 3rd round developing QB but the position value won't allow that. I personally don't care which one they take as long as they don't give up draft capital to get one.

Pace seems to miss on first round picks and hits in the middle rounds. I think as long as he stops trading draft capital away, he will build a good team. Would rather take a risk on a Mills or Mond draft pick than trade away picks to get a higher QB prospect. History tells us on how most high QB picks miss. How many people thought Wilson, Prescott, or even Cousins was going to fail because they weren't first round picks.

I think other than NE, who gets rid of players before they get big contracts, it is diminishing returns once they pay a QB big money. As players get older and replace them, it starts to fall off going forward. NO did it with screwed up cap but never got back to big dance. The window is now for KC and they will attack until they run out of money. Drafting is the key to stay relevant and trading draft picks for big contracts will catch up with them.

First of all, he was a pro bowl RT and will switching to LT with probably a new expensive contract. Remember a few yrs ago, Rick Wagner got paid by Detroit and ended up getting cut then went to Pack. These kind of deals have a 50% fail rate. Would rather moved up and taken rookie deal instead of this risk. Also I don't expect Kyle Long to finish yr at his age , their revamped line may not be as good as they think it is. Pace would have taken those picks for our spot.

I think , if possible, they trade back and draft Cosmi or Mayfield and get those extra picks. We need 4 picks in the top 100 to make this a successful draft.

If they can draft Darrisaw, he could possibly start this yr. Jenkins is strictly a RT, Cosmi needs to build some core strength before he starts. Otherwise a few of the OT may start on the right side but probably only the first 3 will be LT starters day one.

The problem with any trade up , SF set the price to move from 12 to 3. 3 firsts and a 3 next year. If someone is going to move back to 20, it won't be cheap.

I don't think Trevathan is going anywhere. His post June 1st cut saves only 482, 000 . It would cost more for a backup than the money you save. He started slow ( lack of workouts) but played well the second half of the season. Leno not going anywhere either.

They are putting themselves in position to take BPA with starters at every position. Minus no RB, IOL, DT, and S. Sam Cosmi and Darrisaw may be available at 20 both are LTs. Something to think about. Our OL coach was at Michigan before coming here and knows Mayfield well. Tom Herman was Cosmi's coach at Texas. I can see us move back in first round and could still grab one of them. The problem with finding a replacement for Leno, with limited practice how will you determine if the rookie is good enough to cut Leno before preseason? Leno is unfortunately going to be here. On the other hand, Jenkins is a plug and play at RT and already better than IFEDI.

I think the new DC will have a better system of use for our Ss. A more aggressive approach than laying 10 yards off of the WRs at line of scrimmage. I think the first 3 picks will be offense, but at BPA concept it could be a CB

I would love Jenkins but he is only a right tackle. He is physical and has a nasty attitude, something this needs a lot. As far as Trask, he will be there at 52 and could be there at 83 Mond and Mills are rated higher and will be drafted sooner. I seem to be missing where u picked a WR, something they will definitely be doing.

Yes, a great place to visit. Go to Jaco, it's on the ocean 2 hours from San Jose , where the international airport is. Not the cheapest place but middling. I'm in Pattaya, it's a beach city. Bangkok is inline and humid all the time. Pattaya has a ocean breeze that helps a lot.

I have been to 25 countries and Thailand is my favorite. I paid 722 RT from Chicago and that is the most I have ever paid. Brand new condo rental, 214 for month. Huge pool and workout center. 6 for an hour massage. Food is amazing and one of the most scenic countries in the world. The most traveled country in the world. ( minus virus year). I retired 4 yrs ago and went to Colombia for 1 month and Thailand for 1 month. Being single, it's the 2 countries with the most beautiful women in the world. To see where I wanted to spend my winters. ( cheaper than Florida and Arizona to live) I'm in pattaya ( on the ocean) one and a half hours from Bangkok. I have a girlfriend here now. Never had a woman be so wanting to please me and full of joy. So for football talk, Gibson is back at safety.

One week is bad enough, I refuse to do 2 weeks unless I was staying 4 months, just going for 45 days. They relaxed restrictions starting April 1. I think Brugler is the best at this right now.