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I get your model on value but I think this year Vildor and Gibson get more playing time and become a + . I think from the 5th round and down if you get a player that makes the team and becomes a backup with some playing time, that would be a + for me. From 2019 I think Shelley ends up taking over for Skrine and Ridley still could become a contributing player. Anthony Miller has talent but his issues need to go away to become who we thought he was. He has show flashes. Joel Iggy sucks he never stepped forward. As a drafter he probably falls in the middle of the pack but because so many first round players busted it pulls everything down.

Im on your side , I think Pace should have been gone this year, the problem is the only persons that opinions count is the McCaskey's' When the final verdict came down on the MT pick, that minute Pace should have been fired. Nagy probably deserves to get this year because of him not having who he wants but he is not headed in the right direction.

I dont think anyone thinks this team is a SB contender and that they have to be for N and P to keep their jobs. The reality is if they show progress, not my opinion, George McCaskeys. If Pace gets 3 or 4 players that make a contribution this year from the draft and a QB prospect, he probably will keep his job.(if they have a winning record)

So if they make the playoffs and lose, isnt that 11-7 or is my math bad? If all of those happened they would have a better record than 11-7. It seems like everyone is writing off the D with the only change so far being Fuller gone. I didnt think Skrines play was so good he cant be replaced by someone that could do as good. They still have some signings to do and a draft., After that we can make a true determination of a potential record. Right now they only need to sign Gibson back to be pretty close to the same D we had., AROB is coming back, we have a better projected OL than the start of last year, and Dalton should be better than a Foles led O. Kmet should take a step forward and Mooney should surely be better. Cohen is back and Williams should add to the room. I think I can say this is a better team already than last year with some adds to go.

I suspect if Nagy's job is on the line this year, why wouldnt you want to run the show? That's' what I would do. IT fails or succeeds and that will determine the results. We all see a team that blows up with Pace and Nagy, but something will happen and they will go 11-7 and make the playoffs and fall back in the average team again. For example what if: Trufant doesnt get injured and plays well . Quinn plays up to his contract and has 9 sacks this year. Mack has a great year and gets 12 sacksl Kmet breaks out and goes 57- 677 with 6 TDs Montgomery goes for 1412 rushing yards with 245 receiving yards with 10 TDs Dalton has a 3900 yards- 67% with 27 TDs and 11 picks. This team is average in my opinion but if a few things go right, they could have a winning season.

for that reason, I wouldnt mind if we trade out of round 1 and get some extra picks, better lane for Pace to pick in without his reputation of screwing up first round picks.

Williams has a lot of speed but at that spot in the draft, i think there are some better choices of WRs still available. The rest are a lot of good names. What was your point total?

Would be an awesome time to be in Vegas when date is announced. There is one bar there that is Bears friendly with many patrons bears fans, I will try to get that information and list.

Its hard to say the exact value of any player but many mock drafts list, Darrisaw--Jenkins--Cosmi--Vera Tucker as back of the end first round picks. At 20 all of them could be there. WR-OT-CB are the three most talked about as fitting as a first round pick. QB is a high need but taking a 2nd day QB prospect in the first round would be a bad choice. At that spot in the draft: CB- Horn__Stokes__Newsome all or one will be there at 20 WR-Toney__Marshall__Bateman all of them should be there at 20 OT-Darrisaw__Jenkins__Cosmi all should be there at 20 So how does the Bears rate them in order of value. All are at positions of need. I think they will prioritize O in the draft so WR or OT will be the pick. The WR position is real deep and you could get a starter in the 3rd round so would they jump on that? OTs value starts to go down quickly after the first 5 with Mayfield and Radunz being next in line. I think OT should be the pick. I like Teven Jenkins that some have rated the 2nd best T in the draft. He has everything plus a mean streak which would give this OLine some grit. So for me its, 1) OT 2) WR and 3) CB in that order. What if someone like a Devonte Smith/WR drops? I have heard because of his lack of high end speed and slim body, he may be the surprise by dropping.

The trade was on March 18th the first day of the new year which is the legal date for the start of FA, they allow negotiations the week before. Bridgwater, Mariota, Brady and Rivers were already gone before we activated the trade. Dalton was still with the Bengals, so if we would have waited until he was released, we could have have been shut out on adding a QB because we did not know if he would be released.

Pace always goes into FAgency with a plan, I think they may have tried to trade for Dalton, but at the beginning of FA, the cost was to high. If he would have waited to address the QB until May, he would have been killed by the media so he just went with plan A, or plan B .

Here is one with one trade 20 to get 30 and an extra pick 61. 30. Mac Jones QB Alabama 52. Elijah Moore WR Mississippi 61. Dillon Radunz OT North Dakota State 83. Elijah Molden CB Washington 164. Josh Imatorbhebhe WR Illinois 204. Alaric Jackson OT Iowa 208. Jamar Johnson S Indiana 221. Jonathan Marshall DT Arkansas

This one is straight up, try one with one trade and so on. Unrealistic to have many trades but one seems possible.

By Paces signings in FAgency, he is trying to fill needs with stop gap players so he can freely take the best players in each rounds. QB Dalton - I think he will be an upgrade over Foles and if the support group is upgraded, we can make the playoffs with him. RB Williams upgrades the RB room. With Cohen coming back this should be a strength. The biggest upgrade will not be trying to fit Patterson in the running game. WR Pace has yet to upgrade hear. Miller could be gone so I see this as a potential first round pick. TE Keeping Graham helps although I think they should ask him to take a pay cut. I think Komet has a breakout year, so we should be Okay at TE OL Bringing in Wilkenson and reupping Ifedi suggests they may not upgrade the OT position in the first couple of rounds. (mistake) I would love them to take Teven Jenkins at 1. CB Fuller is gone but with Burns being resigned and Trufant coming in, it will be in better shape than it looks. Also this could be a high round pick if the value is there. S DHC and Bush coming back gives us the depth, also dont forget we sighed Jordan Lucas last year and he opted out. IF we can upgrade Gibson or bring Gibson back we will be ok. OLB Jeremiah Attaochu is an upgrade over Mingo in the pass rush part of the game. Quinn can not play as bad as he did last year so we should get an upgrade here. Also T. Gibson should make a contribtion after his rooke year should very little. LB Jones is an upgrade over Iggy and Woods for sure. DL With them keeping Hicks (so far) and Goldman coming back this should be a strength again. Also Nichols should take a step forward and Blackson was a good addition. So the draft first 3 rounds could be any one of our needs. CB-QB-WR-OL. With three picks , I can see Pace moving back to get an extra 3rd or add a 4th and address all of those positions taking the BPA at our spot.

They say that a future picks value is one round lower than its status. I suspect because they dont know the value of it. If you succeed and have a back of the first round draft then it is almost a 2nd round, ect. The first 5 QBs will be gone at the latest at 15 NE pick. So we should just make the roster better and draft a prospect in the third round. Mills, Trask although with the need of QBs , they may be gone by then. Darnold will be available, anyone think he is worth a 2d round pick?

bears are resigning Artie Burns/CB. I remember they signed him last year but what happened to him? Did he get hurt? Opted out? Or got cut?

What made 2018 so special is the TOs and we will probably never see that again but an increase would help a lot.

I was referring to this years picks, would definitely have to have a future involved.

He signed with someone but would have been my first choice.

I would like that but to get ahead of NE , you will have to give up a third and 5th? That would only leaving a second to add CB, WR and OT.

Damien Williams coming to town.

Damian Williams coming to town. RB last with Chiefs

So is Pace going to think we're okay with IFEDI, Leno and Wilkinson? Then not draft a OT until after the 3rd round? I can see that happening. The first 3 picks could be CB, WR, and QB depending on the draft falls. Although QB is the most important draft component, whoever they get won't become a starter this year. What I find interesting is the strength of the draft is OT, WR and CB. Maybe he can get 3 starters with the first 3 picks but one of them need to be a OT.

2018 happened so a bunch of defensive players got paid big contracts because of it. Hicks, Goldman, EJAC, Fuller. Also that is the year we added a huge contract in Mack. In one respect , they paid there players but now the covid dropped the cap ( as Lemonej pointed out) so all these contracts become a problem. Pace screwed up the QB room and had to bring in below average QBs to fix the problem. Dalton will be better but no big deal.

We have 8 CBs on the roster. Any of them going to push Trufant for a starting job? Take out Johnson and Shelly as CB and NB Tre Robinson Marqui Chirstian Xaiver Crawford Tez Tabor Kindle Vidor 4 Ss EJAC Bush Jordan Lucas DHC We need one more S or draft one