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There is all kinds of reports about grabbing a QB but the truth is a GM is going to check out all his options to fill needs. I don't think you can put anymore value in the fact Pace talked to teams in front of them. I think they will focus on a QB if one drops just before NE. 10-14. That would probably be a 3rd this year and 2nd next year. Otherwise they have 1 second tier QB they think they can develop.

He has some game.

I'm in Thailand now and have a 7 day quarantine. I will looking at tons of draft stuff since I have nothing else to do. Have the Dane Brugler and PFN draft guides to look at.

I have some good recipes for crow. I think he will do something to surprise us. I hope its move back still get a OT and a extra top 100 pick. Then OT, WR, QB and CB can be addressed.

I think it was Wannsted that said ( on the score ( get a speed guy and throw deep 2 or 3 times a game ) and you will have a good running game. SOMETHING LIKE THAT

Why do I see a lot of mock drafts having a high IOL draft pick? ,what am I missing? Whitehair, Mustipher, Daniels, Barr, and possible of IFEDI playing there. I can see a 5th round and beyond but one of the top 3?

The only trade we make ( big salary)is for Wilson and that will never happen. No miracle trades out there, we have to turn for the draft for help. Before the draft we will be signing a SS, probably Gibson back which I'm okay with .

What if one of the top 5 drop? Do you consider that a reach?

Name that team ? I am not sure I know one.

This is a piece that will have a few big moments and be average on other days but is much better than UDFAS at the bottom of the depth chart. Stick AROB in the slot and have Mooney and Goodwin going deep. Sounds good to me. Speed forces defense to respect them. Anything helps.

Seen a question posed on Twitter by a bears blogger, WHAT IS THE WORST CASE FOR THE 20TH PICK SCENARIO? For me its wasting draft capital to move up to get a QB . This year the team needs to get 3 starters with the first 3 picks. If a QB prospect drops, at least it's just one pick.

I dont think it makes any kind of statement about Nagy, the only narrative you here is he is well liked by his players. I think it's just the union rep pushing the policy and the writing is on the wall. They will all end up doing it.

Here is a draft from PFN that would work for me.

great score, never been over 44500. I could come to love that draft. Like Stevens-Adebo-Rodgers-Brown-Mond-Leatherwood and Wildgoose, Dont like St Brown( better choices at that spot in draft.)

I keep forgetting who is still on the roster when I look who they decide to draft high. Tarek Cohen is coming back and he could play the slot WR spot that would be a upgrade over Miller. Also we had two late round draft picks on the OL from last year. Did they have enough upside with a year of development to figure in the equation? Also I think Bars would be better than Ifedi that they brought back. CBs , we signed Burns and Trufant, and have these CBs already signed. Shelley, Crawford, Vidor, Tabor, Robinson, and just resigned Michel Joesph. Are one of the starters oppose Johnson already on the roster? Trufant will get first chance and if healthy is capable of solid play. I think Shelley will be the NB but is Vidor or Tre Robinson the outside corner?

I agree in that order which will probably be in the third round. Sam Ehlinger is an interesting take since we have his college QB on our staff. Using the 5th round for a QB prospect would be more idea than a third as to filling needed positions.

I am a bears geek at this time of year, I listen to podcasts and read every article I can. All my opinions are what I think is best, but one podcast I listened to this morning made some sense. Pace and Nagy are in win now mode, so what choices makes them the best team RIGHT NOW? What they are thinking? I think. What players in the first 3 rounds contributes this year to help then win? 1) A future franchise QB--- none of top 5 will fall so give away a first and third this year and one next year? Will not make this team better now but might save their jobs. Whoever they draft will not start this year and will subtract capital in this years draft. 1st and third would be gone. (probably not happening with Dalton having average play) 2) OT starter at RT then left next year- they have Leno and Ifedi back to start, if the first 3 OTs are gone will that pick upgrade enough to help win? I think yes, but they think a draft can get them a prospect that could start next year. SO I think they may wait until 2 or 3 to grab a OT of future. 3) CB There will be one available that could start and give you a needed boost on a defense that is still good. This is a way possible choice at 20. 4) WR There will be many good choices at this spot that could contribute now and be a future star in a deep class. This is probably the 20th pick but also find that guy in second. 5) S As of right now, no SS at the starter position but with many Ss still in FAgency, I think they will grab a starter before the draft. I suspect Gibson comes back. Will not be addressed until later rounds. 6) Edge- you always need more pass rushers and do not be surprised if one of the top 3 drop and they grab one. Summary) If a QB prospect does not drop-if one of the top 3 OTs is not there at 20- then I think they take a CB with the first round and WR in the second. I think they will try to move back and grab an extra 3rd or 4th round and get a QB prospect and OT prospect before the 5th round. If they get a starting CB, WR that plays a lot, and a OT and QB prospect of the future then they will have gotten the most out of this draft they could. THIS IS WHAT I THINK THEY THINK IS BEST, not what I want.

I agree it will always be the #1 need until we have one but to draft a 3rd round valued QB at 20 is a flaw of bad teams. Now if one of the 5 drops then so be it. The problem is moving up would cost so much as to be detrimental to the team. Houston having Watson did not make them a winner. You have to somewhat be lucky. 80% of the QBs taken in the first round of drafts have failed. The Bradys, Wilsons, and Brees were all out of the first round and their teams kind of lucked out. If Pace did what he said he would do from the beginning of drafting QB prospects every year, we may have already lucked out.

You are correct, he is a RT, would have no problem if he is on our team in May.

I would prefer this draft to try to mirror the players you picked with no trades----- not sure of the draft simulator you used but I used the PFN 20. Teven Jenkins OT Oklahoma State Nasty attitude and gamer 52 .Asante Samuel Jr. CB Florida State He is a little taller and has more speed than Molden 83. Amari Rodgers WR Clemson Looked like the best WR at the senior bowl 164. Jamie Newman QB Georgia Has all the traits of a NFL QB 204 Alaric Jackson OT Iowa Iowa has more OL in the NFL than any other school 208. Tamorrion Terry WR Florida State Underrated big WR 221. Israel Mukuamu S South Carolina 6-4 was overshadowed by Horn but looked good on film 228. Malcolm Koonce Edge Buffalo Was Defensive player of the year in 2019 in his league

If he is available, I would prefer Teven Jenkins/OT at 20. He has a nasty attitude and more physical than Mayfield. Molden is 5'10", would prefer a taller CB as that high a pick Atwell / Dane Buglers write up on Atwell STRENGTHS: Runs like the wind with top-end speed that looks different than everyone else on the field…dangerous vertical threat with his ability to consistently win over the top…shows one-step burst to quickly release or separate in his route breaks…effective with his double-moves…tracks the ball well over his shoulder, slowing or accelerating as needed…big-play threat with the ball in his hands (only Alabama’s DeVonta Smith had more yards after catch in 2019)…destroys pursuit angles as a ball carrier, shifting gears and running circles around defenders…accounted for nine receptions of 50-plus yards in his career…scored a touchdown every 6.6 times he touched the football in college…led team in receptions the last two seasons. WEAKNESSES: Vastly undersized…minimal body power and doesn’t have tackle-breaking bulk/strength…allows defenders to alter his route path by their presence or minimal contact…too many traps and body catches and too many of his targets hit the ground (15 drops over the last three seasons)…still a novice route runner…needs to flatten his routes and play with better discipline out of his breaks…hears footsteps when working the middle of the field…his desire to avoid contact as a ball carrier leads to too much east-west runs…responsible for five fumbles in college…half-hearted blocker with below average functional strength in this area…limited experience as a return man (only four punt returns in college)…lack of size leads to durability concerns — missed two games and parts of others due to a L5 S1 stress reaction fracture in his back (October 2020). I think there would be some better choices at that spot of the draft. Nico Collins-Tamorrian Terry-D'Wayne Eskridge. Here is a list of rated OT OFFENSIVE TACKLES PROSPECT SCHOOL GRADE YEAR HEIGHT WEIGHT 40-YD (10-YD) ARMS HANDS WING AGE 1. PENEI SEWELL Oregon 1st JR. 6047 331 5.09 (1.79) 33 1/4 10 3/8 80 7/8 20.56 2. RASHAWN SLATER Northwestern 1st SR. 6042 304 4.88 (1.68) 33 10 1/2 80 1/8 22.09 3. CHRISTIAN DARRISAW Virginia Tech 1st JR. 6046 322 N/A (N/A) 34 1/4 9 1/4 82 1/8 21.91 4. TEVEN JENKINS Oklahoma State 1st-2nd rSR. 6057 317 4.99 (1.77) 33 1/2 9 1/2 81 23.16 5. SAMUEL COSMI Texas 2nd rJR. 6057 314 4.85 (1.68) 33 10 1/4 80 1/4 22.20 6. LIAM EICHENBERG Notre Dame 2nd rSR. 6061 306 N/A (N/A) 32 3/8 9 5/8 79 3/8 23.28 7. WALKER LITTLE Stanford 2nd-3rd rJR. 6073 313 5.27 (1.82) 33 3/4 10 1/8 81 3/4 22.08 8. BRADY CHRISTENSEN BYU 2nd-3rd rJR. 6052 302 4.89 (1.71) 32 1/4 10 1/4 80 24.59 9. DILLON RADUNZ North Dakota State 2nd-3rd rSR. 6056 301 5.12 (1.76) 34 9 80 1/8 23.09 10. JAMES HUDSON Cincinnati 3rd rJR. 6046 313 5.29 (1.84) 32 7/8 10 5/8 80 7/8 21.96 11. D’ANTE SMITH East Carolina 3rd rSR. 6053 305 5.31 (1.83) 35 9 7/8 85 22.89 12. STONE FORSYTHE Florida 3rd rSR. 6080 307 5.12 (1.82) 34 3/8 10 83 1/4 23.33 13. SPENCER BROWN Northern Iowa 3rd-4th rSR. 6082 311 4.92 (1.69) 34 3/4 10 1/4 82 5/8 23.16 14. JAYLON MOORE Western Michigan 3rd-4th rSR. 6041 311 5.25 (1.82) 33 3/8 10 3/4 82 1/2 23.31 15. BRENDEN JAIMES Nebraska 3rd-4th SR. 6050 298 N/A (N/A) 32 5/8 9 5/8 82 21.92 16. TOMMY DOYLE Miami (Ohio) 4th rSR. 6080 320 5.11 (1.76) 35 1/8 10 3/8 83 7/8 22.98 17. JOSH BALL Marshall 5th rSR. 6073 308 5.19 (1.90) 35 10 81 5/8 22.96 18. DAN MOORE JR. Texas A&M 5th-6th SR. 6055 311 5.19 (1.84) 34 1/2 10 1/8 83 1/2 22.59 19. LARNEL COLEMAN Massachusetts 6th rSR. 6062 307 5.10 (1.83) 35 1/2 10 3/8 84 7/8 22.85 20. ALARIC JACKSON Iowa 6th rSR. 6054 321 5.37 (1.87) 33 7/8 9 1/4 82 3/8 22.79 21. LARRY BOROM Missouri 6th-7th rJR. 6047 322 5.12 (1.81) 33 1/8 10 3/8 80 22.08 22. LANDON YOUNG Kentucky 6th-7th rSR. 6061 310 5.00 (1.72) 33 3/4 10 1/8 81 3/4 23.69 23. KAYODE AWOSIKA Buffalo 7th rSR. 6031 307 5.19 (1.85) 32 5/8 9 79 22.51 24. ADRIAN EALY Oklahoma 7th-PFA rJR. 6062 321 5.37 (1.84) 33 9 7/8 80 7/8 21.73 25. JAKE CURHAN California 7th-PFA rSR. 6057 316 5.44 (1.89) 33 1/2 10 1/4 81 1/2 23.22 26. DREW HIMMELMAN Illinois State 7th-PFA rSR. 6090 323 N/A (N/A) 33 3/4 9 1/2 82 1/2 24.61 27. GRANT HERMANNS Purdue PFA rSR. 6074 300 5.26 (1.86) 33 1/8 9 7/8 79 1/4 23.15 28. COLE VAN LANEN Wisconsin PFA rSR. 6042 305 5.07 (1.70) 33 3/8 9 3/4 78 1/2 23.02 29. MATT FARNIOK Nebraska PFA rSR. 6052 311 5.20 (1.78) 33 1/4 9 5/8 79 3/4 23.59 30. FOSTER SARELL Stanford PFA rJR. 6064 318 5.51 (1.89) 33 3/8 9 3/4 80 1/4 22.67 31. SYRUS TUITELE Fresno State PFA SR. 6054 311 5.19 (1.76) 32 1/2 10 1/8 77 1/2 22.23 32. KION SMITH Fayetteville State PFA rSR. 6054 315 5.32 (1.82) 34 1/4 9 7/8 81 1/2 23.56 33. GREG EILAND Mississippi State PFA rSR. 6077 321 5.77 (2.03) 36 1/2 10 1/2 88 1/8 23.24 34. PARKER FERGUSON Air Force PFA SR. 6036 306 5.18 (1.79) 32 5/8 9 1/4 79 5/8 21.95 Seen some tape on Stone Forsythe and he had a lot of pancake blocks, just destroyed people.

That would be a perfect value trade.

If they cant get one of the five to drop to 20, the only way they can save their jobs is to improve the team (OT-WR-CB) and draft a prospect and have a winning record. Giving away players and draft picks to jump up to draft a QB is suicide . There only plan is (to be lucky) when it comes to a QB.

Giving away draft capital to move up to take a 2nd tier QB prospect is a bad idea. Other than Lawence, Wilson, Fields and Lance, taking another QB high is not a good value. If Mac Jones falls to 20 that is a different conversation because of the need at QB in the league. I would take him at 20 but not trade picks to move up.

Getting a QB is definitely a priority but taking a 2nd tier QB with the first pick is a bad idea. I do not think we will move up to get a top 5 (wasted draft capital) SO: 1---OT 2-WR 3-QB 4-CB 5-SS The first 2 picks need to become starters right away so taking a top 5 OT that will start at RT this year(go to LT next year) after NYs favorite player is cut. To make Dalton play better we need another WR to add to his toys. Ideally the third round is where value wise we add a Kellen Mond or Davis Mills/ if already gone then go CB or SS here. A long shot: what if our addition to the coaching staff Tom Herman(former Texas coach ) gives us some insight into the value of Sam Elhinger (as a project) and we draft him in the 6th round. Then use our top 3 to add 3 starters at needed positions. He finished his career completing 62.5% of his attempts for 11,436 yards, 94 passing touchdowns and 27 interceptions while posting a rating of 145.0. Ideal scenario for me 1- Teven Jenkins/ OT He is physical and a Kyle Long mean streak that this OL needs 2-Terrance Marshall/WR he has size and speed to put on the outside with AROB and would put Mooney in the slot where I think he would florish 3- Kellen Mond/QB He has 4 years as a starter as a strong enough arm , got better every year and is a good runner. 5-Rachad Wildgoose/CB He has 4.47 speed at 5-11 197. Is physical with good football IQ (used GBNFR rankings to place value) 6/1- Damar Hamlin/SS Lead Pitt in tackles-67-7 PBs-2-interceptions. Physical safety with 4.52 speed. Remains me of Amos 6/2 -Alaric Jackson/OT A Iowa OT that has a lowered value because not very athletic but is a baller. 6/3-Josh Imatorbhebhe/WR Wasnt productive at Illinois because of Lovies offense but has good traits for a good prospect. 6/4-Lorenzo Neal/DE Showed some talent but overall was disappointing. At 6-3 311 has the size to compete. I think they address the offense first and often. We have Trufant and Burns to take over for CB and as long as healthy can be competitive. I think with the strength of the rest of the defense it will not make this a necessary high pick.