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Literally 1 mil more than Floyd.

Pace kicks us in the nuts yesterday and now makes us quit bad mouthing him.

There is 16 committed to Burton and Graham and I think this signing means our first 3 picks wont be a TE . We draft one late.

It means another QB on the market for us that we will not be able to get. Also Carolina is letting Cam seek a trade. Another QB available we won't be able to get.

Hey grizz since our last headbutt, I thought I would go back and look at all your posts for the last 30 days. You really are smarter than me so I have been reprogramming my brain. Then this great idea popped into my head. We trade MT and Floyd with a 4th round pick to Oakland for Carr and their 3rd round pick. We being back 19 mil in salary but give away 22 mil away. Tada n ew QB that we don't have to try to fit into our cap space . Then we draft Floyds replacement with that pick. Man it feels great to start thinking like you.

Nate Sudfeld just resigned with eagles to a 1 yr deal WTF

Pace wasted 9 mil on Graham so to even have some money to fill pl other needs , we need to cut him. Replace him with (first tier to expensive) but Players in the 8 mil range. Kyle Frackrell, jorden Jenkins, Kamalei Correa, Ezekiel Ansah, and Jeremy Attaocuhi. I was all in on Floyd until Pace wasted money on Graham so now need more money.

Brent Urban played well for the short time he was here . Let's keep him. Also Kendall Fuller 4 yr 40 mil

I think it's the worst pick Pace as ever done, I'm trying to be hopeful for anything we can get out of him.

Nick Williams just signed with lions for 2yr 10 million

It's clear people are getting paid that we can't afford. So we now have to assume Floyd is gone to free up money. 13.2 to cap They need to cut Burton, Shaheen, and Braunnecker. We clearly have to many in the TE room. Adds 7.5 mil to the cap. We need to redo Hicks contract and extend AROB now . Potential add 10 mil to the cap. We need to resign our free agents Bush , J P Holtz, Coward, Brent Urban, Cornelius Lucas, Patrick Scales, and Aaron Lynch because they will all be cheap signs. Hope we can bri back KPL and Sherrick McManus on cheap deals. Grab Sudfeld now before he's gone as well. Should have a inside track because of him and Flips relationship. Target a OLB now and go get them : Marcus Golden or kyle Frackel or Jordan Jenkins or vic Beasley or Jeremy Attaocuhi . With this plan I have to assume Bush is our starting SS , Bars is our starting RG, Sudfeld is brought in at #2, that we obtained a OLB to replace Floyd, Lucas is our swing OT, tolliver is our CB2. We still should have enough money to add a 2nd tier WR. CB, RB, and S. Draft a OT, IOL, OLB, QB, TE, S, CB and a WR. BPA at value of each round. Get a new GM, just kidding.

We may want but aren't getting a starter. Will have to go with MT, hope we can still get Sudfeld as a backup and draft a QB.

Here is a list of people we wanted and what they got paid. Keenum 3 yr 24 mil Glasgow 4 yr 44 mil Vailai 5 yr 50 mil JPP 2 yr 27 mil Hayden Hurst traded for a 2nd and 5th yr Austin Hooper 4 yr 44 mil Ryan Tannahill 4 yr 118 mil

Yup with you there.

Pace is not alone in bad decisions. I understand all his moves but Jimmy.

I choose MT first because we can't afford their contracts. It would wipe out all other positions for decent free agents.

I hope he does well and give him cudos for last year but that isn't his statistical history.

I'm an optimist but I'm in the same lane with you now. The Graham grab is so not a good idea.

With this move , we have 10 TEs in the house. Get rid of Burton as a June 1 cut , I think we pick up 5 mil and use that money on another position. Cut Braunnecker and Shaheen and we pick up 3 more mil there. The only salvation with Graham is if he gives us a red zone target and gets us 8 to 10 TDs.

I don't see us signing or trading for anyone with a large money payout. Mariota and Keenum gone. We are running out of options. If we end up being all in on MT at least get a decent #2. If it ends up forcing us to use one of our 2nd round picks on a QB as a #2 it's better than sitting on a fat contract. Grab Sudfeld now let's run with it. I would suspect him and Flip had a good relationship and would want to come here.

This structuring of his contract makes him a cheaper option than what they would have paid for Kwit.

I hear Hopkins and O'Brien had a bad relationship but they could definitely find a better deal than an expensive David Johnson contract being included. I think they get a second round pick also which nabs them a good WR prospect.

I can see them trying to obtain him but not at 21 mil a year. I think they talked to his agent and someone run with the story they are signing him.

THIS, also Kwit, before last year , would have never commanded more than a 3 or 4 money in a new contract. The risk is does he play like last year or his career before when he couldn't win a starter job.

If they wanted to kick the tires on him for 4 or 5 mil on 1 yr , I would understand but with limited cap space, this is absolutely a desperate move. The Packers were hurting for pass catchers last year and he had 38 receptions with Rodgers. There is nothing here that's tells me, he will be better than that now. He wasn't even a red zone target for Aaron. Pace must have the beer virus. I would rather prefer Horsted with upside given his snaps. This tells me Pace only has 1 year left at his job. Other than Paces ties with NO, who ever thought this was a good idea should be fired now.