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Anyone he would trade for is because a big money contract is coming. He's not adding big money in a trade. He still has to extend Thuney.

They talk to other teams about moving around but that's just normal GM stuff this time of year. It means nothing. Why aren't people talking about us moving back because that doesn't generate clicks. Rumors are just rumors, they mean nothing.

If they feel LT is a dire need, they will draft one at 10. When you talk about Jones, you keep living out Kiran. Poles drafted him to compete and eventually play LT. Jones doesn't deserve a big money contract and someone will give it to him. He'll draft a LT to compete with Kiran more than Jones. He's just letting it play out. Whether 10-39-41 we will have another LT.

Does anyone have an example of Poles leaking information? This is all pundits using each other as sources. We are missing 2 draft picks already, I don't think Poles drafting Jeanty is this emergency act he has to make happen. If he drops to us, I think he would take him. Giving away more draft picks doesn't make sense.

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To be honest, there's many different players to be happy about if we get them. When the dust settles, I want 4 good players with our first 4 picks.if they screw that up we won't know for a few years. I'm hopeful they get it right.

I going to watch more tape to see if I can get where you're at or see why other people say what they say. I have the time to do that.

That's the risk, being wrong,no one knows a person is going to be Hall of Famer in a pre draft rookie season.

Serious question, how much tape have you watched? DJ, Dane Brugler watches every snap of a players career. They don't base an opinion on highlight films and a few game films.

I looked at the speed of all our WRs and only Duvernay is under 4.4. 4.39. I had seen Golden ran a 4.25 at his pro day and 4.29 at the combine. If he wants speed and another weapon, Golden is easily the choice. There's only a couple speed WRs he is the second highest rated wideout after McMillan. TE, DE, RB ,DT and OL has good choices in the 2nd and 3 rd. Also Draft Buzz gives him a 67% blocking grade, something Ben said was necessary for his WRs. I have mentioned before to not sleep on this as our pick.

I want) a great pass rusher, that would add so much to the defense, could be DE or DT. Tyrek Williams or James Pierce Don't want) Shemar Stewart, I hate players with no production Surprise) Matt Golden, this team is missing that one speed merchant Ben had in Detroit. He is now rated in the teens. They do) trade back and get Kenneth Grant or Walter Nolen. I think they need one more rotation guy at DT. Billings -Jarret-Dexter , missing the 4 th DT

It's not just grabbing the next Payton or Donald is also about losing some great assets. I think the only player worth moving up for is Carter. We would have to move to 2 or 3 to get him. He will cost more than one second rounder to move there. Let's say 39+72 and a future? We are still building the roster, doubt that happens.

I wasn't specific but mainly Mason Graham dropping to 10. Every year one top rated player goes later than expected. When the draft process started Membou was considered a 3rd or 4th round pick and now he's into the top 10 ( maybe). He's always had good tape but everyone never seen him as much of an athlete. As the draft process moved along more people investigated him . So the same names keep popping up in the top 10 , who might go later than expected? Hunter, Jeanty, Warren, Carter are no brainers top of the draft but Mason was smaller and shorter than people thought so it has thrown some doubt on him. Also a smallish Walker as a DE may go later as lots of GMs love size. Has Campbell slipped because of his measurements? Just curious who you guys think drops?

I am so glad we are finally knocking on the door of the draft. So far I've counted 83 perfect bears mock drafts I've read. The Jeanty love fest will finally be over. I get people wanting a quality player but the amount of people thinking we are going to move up to draft him is insane. Everyone celebrating 4 top 72 picks and then turning around and give some of those picks away to move up. Those 4 picks should be quality starters if not this year but in the near future. We have more than one need, so taking away picks makes no sense to me.

I actually think most could play there but I heard Dane Brugler say he has the worst wingspan differential in this draft which means his wingspan is shorter than his height. Only one starter last year in the NFL had short arms. With most speed rushers these days having length it's just a disadvantage to have his measurables playing LT.

I don't think it would matter but he's to small in size to fit DAs prototype. More from a sense of power and strength.

As much as this is BS season, there always seems to be one player that drops. Carter was supposed to be the best player in the draft and he dropped to 9 that year.

Lately I've seen him drop in the draft, and have no idea why. Easy answer no one knows what they're talking about. Would love to get a blue chip player.

Does everyone know who Brandon Thorn is? He's supposed to be a OL guru. He has a sub stack that costs money to get his newsletter. He did his annual report ( My guys) listing his 32 top OL in the draft . He puts out a teaser giving you his favorite guy in each round. Does anyone get that? This year ( as a late first round pick) Simmons. if he wasn't injured, he said would have been the first T off the board. Round 2 is Booker Round 3 is Rutledge Round 4 and later Izzy Trapilo I was curious of his full ranking.

I get where you're coming from. Without knowing how much tape you watched, I am to assume your opinion is more valuable than someone that literally watches every minute of tape on a player in his whole career. Tapes of practices, maybe met in person , looks at all the measurements. I can't say they all do that but I do know Dane Brugler does that. I plumbed for 55 years of which I'm going to stop working altogether when I go home. I worked with people that had 5 maybe 10 years experience and think they're the genius in the room. I just let them talk. Plumbing isn't brain surgery but 50 years of experience does put you in a place most workers never get to . I never puff my chest out, let people talk. Then one day there's a problem they can't figure out and ask me for my help. I probably have dealt with that before. My point is experience matters in most cases.

I agree last time in the top 10. I would say 20 and lower going forward. I also agree the majority of starting LTs were picked in the top 15. The 10 highest paid LTs 5 = top 15, 1 =20, 1=23, 1= 53, 1= 4th round 1= 7th round. So if we want one, 10 probably needs to address that. Only a few were day 1 kicking butt, most were developed. Campbell, Membou, Banks considered the top 3 by most scouts. If they seem one destintin for stardom, I'm all in. It's for them to decide not me. I personally think Campbell will eventually be a OG, Membou will be a RT. So we can only hope Banks is the man or someone else they may want.

Echo chambers don't agree.

I already think that, Mathew Golden. We're not going to be picking this high again. 4.25 speed. Do not discount Ben adding a weapon with speed. I'm not asking for that but that would surprise everyone.

We all just have opinions right and wrong. I mention highly respected people and their opinions and it's an echo chamber. You keep mentioning Draft Buzz and Phil and his dad. Explain to me how that's different? NFL drafting is not a science like chemistry, there is no wrong or right opinions before a draft. After the draft 50% of the first round picks fail. It doesn't matter who I like or you like that's just fantasy football. I think we are trying to predict who the Bears pick. It's not whether mine or your opinion turns out true. Technically we won't know the answer to these questions for 3 years. That's the amount of time most prospects take to develop. I still think Caleb will be the best QB out of the last draft but he surely wasn't last year. We can't base a statement in one year of information. Also both could be all pro players or not. The point is this debate of ours is passionate, entertaining or stupid but it actually doesn't matter, it's just sport conversations NFL fans have. I have a lot of Packers fans as friends. This really isn't any different than those conservation's but it's more fun when the Bears are better. I look at podcasts,, articles, mock drafts not because I'm trying to think I'm smarter than them , it's just entertainment. We are in the dawn of a consistent winning bear's team and we all should be very happy. I think it's actually going to happen this time.

You're correct, not any different than your echo chamber. If Banks is as good as you say he is is, he will be gone before 10. Most predicted the teens. We'll see who's opinion wins out.