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He is absolutely in play. Odds of getting JPJ are slim . We may have a shot at Zach Frasier in the second round but if we bring in a quality center we will get one later in the draft. Why Tanor is interesting is he literally has played every position on TBE OL. That's a huge value.

If he passes all the character tests by Poles, he will be drafted by Poles.

I never go with one post but was looking at Giants X and seen it posted by two sources. Trying to be the first to post news so I posted it and went back to find more verification. Tried to drop the post but the software wouldn't let me delete it.

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There is a big difference of thinking Justin is great or he can get better plus add numerous blue chip players. I trust Poles to make the right choice. Williams might end up being great , Poles knows the answer to that. Many are Justin fans on here and still know that Williams may be the better choice, it's okay to not be absolute with our opinions .

I guess not everyone has bought unto the draft Williams narrative.

It's foolish to dismiss all of the options that Poles has. Most likely we draft a QB and trade Justin Most unlikely we draft a QB and keep Justin Still probably trade picks , get a haul and keep Justin. Everyone wants to argue Justin to Williams but a bevy of draft picks is the key.

If we go by his first 2 years of the off-season, he will sign one expensive contract. That may very well be JJ but I think JJ gets tagged. Lots of Ss, WRs and fortunately centers. A couple middling signing. Last year. Edmunds was the big contract Last year. Edwards, Davis, Nagakoue were midrange Lesser contracts. Travis Homer, Demarcus Walker, Foreman, Tonyan, Billings . He will have a similar off season.

With the Free agency period starting next week, the first thing that will be a sign of what's coming is Justin won't be traded. The predictions that we're drafting Caleb will take a hit when their prediction( Justin gets traded right away). I think it is more likely the first pick gets traded . That will be stroking the fires of social media.

As you point out, it's not his football skills that will doom him, it's his excessive ego that presents the image he wants to be treated special. Character issues are important to Poles. Waldron has been up close and personal wit him at that football school, he would have input into how coachable he is. Poles passes on the best player in the draft last year because of that. He will throw a hissy fit if not drafted #1.

I seen a PFF end of the year rankings for center and Connor Williams was the top FA center available, (37 overall) Andre James (44), Cusenberry (57), Aaron Brewer (77), Tyler Biadasz (93). Looking at their run and pass block grades, Cusenberry is the highest rated , he got knocked down because of penalties. Brewer could be the one because his OL coach is here but he gave up a lot of sacks.

Odds are Justin will get traded. He has a long way to go to be a tier one QB, but you could win with him. He has some special in his game. Time moves on but one day Justin will get to a SB.

Justin doesn't look any differently throwing the ball than Williams does. Small sample size. He can throw short quick passes or a longer throwing motion, it depends on the route their running. To watch the video you just click on Watch on YouTube.

I don't think it's set in stone he's going to draft Caleb at number one as the total football world thinks he is. If he does a historic trade down or downs and brings in 5 or 6 blue chip players, he will go to the GM Hall of Fame in his 3 rd year. That is still in play. If he likes another QB and takes a few trades, he would ignite the football frenzy that we already have. Another thing to consider is no one is offering a 1 st, or even a second round for Justin, he's not taking 3 rd picks for Justin. He will do something to surprise us.

I don't think it's set in stone he's going to draft Caleb at number one as the total football world thinks he is. If he does a historic trade down or downs and brings in 5 or 6 blue chip players, he will go to the GM Hall of Fame in his 3 rd year. That is still in play. If he likes another QB and takes a few trades, he would ignite the football frenzy that we already have. Another thing to consider is no one is offering a 1 st, or even a second round for Justin, he's not taking 3 rd picks for Justin. He will do something to surprise us.

Got it, I'm A little slow sometimes.

Coming March 11, free agency takes over the narrative. Who's the first signing Poles makes? After JJ, I think he only makes one splash signing ( money contract). Samuel is friends with DJ and could see him taking a quick contract from Poles instead of waiting for a big contract. Also Poles will jump on the center he wants. The extra boost in cap space loosens up Poles strict value contracts. Cusenberry would be nice. Next would be TE, FS and edge.

He could be a sneaky pick for Poles at QB, which could be gotten at 9. (?) Poles passed on QBs last year and the top rated player in the draft ( Carter) for a RT. He is a proven winning QB, lacks stats because he was on a rush first team but has all the traits.

We know that's not coming from Poles.

I haven't seen you lately, hope everything is going well. Always value your opinion. I think Poles does the deep dive and gets it right. Not sure what Crosby's contract is but would make us one of top 3 D's in the league and we would have the money to do it. Poles said in an interview that he won't trade out of the blue chip players group, not sure how deep his board goes. Usually between 10 to 15 on the average.

Those are moments you remember when other things get forgotten. Might Poles thinks JJ could be great and takes him at 9? I never underestimate Poles to not do what is expected. Scenario: trade back a couple spots and get extra picks and draft MHJ plus grab McCarthy at 9, I could live with that.

If Poles drafts him, he will already have everything figured out. He won't draft him if he becomes a problem but he will know going in.

Cool you got to sit there in that moment in time. My claim to fame was playing poker with Red Foxx one time in Vegas and eating pizza with Howie Mandel.