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He’s overthinking. I like that he’s trying not to turn it over but you’re right. Definitely getting bad about holding the ball. On the replay Bellamy was open on the crossing route although probably wouldn’t have been a 1st.

Never thought I’d hear myself telling Robbie to ‘miss it’. Of course...he didn’t. Lol

Or some combo therein would be ok. I even like the idea Connor suggested of Fox hiring Mike McCoy as OC.

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Lol!! Thats the best, if not funniest, endorsement yet. I’m a Nebraska guy so I’d just as soon see all the other HCs leave. It would be cool to see Meyer give it a go in the bigs. So I’m guessing you wouldn’t want to see Harbaugh leave?

Funny but not a bad idea. He was just recently fired from Denver. He’d consider it I’m sure. A quick look at his past experience with QB coaching saw Orton set passing yard records both individually (and 4th overall yds/game in the NFL in 2010). The following year McCoy adapted the offense to Tebows style where he led in rushing yards and got the Broncos to the playoffs (under Fox’s guise). - Wikipedia. The more I read, the more I like it Connor. Good suggestion.

Sanchez is more like a massage therapist in his role on the team than strategist. I’m not convinced he was as much the mentor to Prescott as was Romo but ok. If Sanchez was there for his advice on “seeing the game” then Biscuit would be advancing more than he has. If anything Sanchez can dispense advice on how not to fail and deal with adversity.

Connor, please for all that is good don’t ever say Sanchez’s name again. I’ll stop hoping for Glennons return if you promise me he’ll be ‘the one who’s name will never be uttered (or seen) again in Chicago’.

What other choice is there? They picked Trubisky and “he’s the one”. Surely Pace wouldn’t trade up for another ‘can’t miss’ QB prodigy? I see the writing on the wall and need for the foundation of a strong offense. OL makes sense now that a large number of your offensive skill players are in place. Save WR of course.

J-E-T = FAST

C’mon Jason, who you kiddding? You know Pace is going to trade up for some obscure QB turned WR in the first round (that no one else considered) then a bunch of D2 players for the rest of the draft. Calling them all BPA.

Lest I remind you Lovie was fired despite having a 10-6 season. If Fox were to pull that off next year, would you wish for him to go? It’s not improbable. Again the focus being on Trubisky. If you get some wunderkid OC to come in and push Trubisky to his full potential, our team easily makes an over .500 run. That is if Trubisky has a potentially high ceiling. Right now we have no way of knowing whether he does or not. And if we see the team dump the whole lot and start anew and they hire an offensive minded HC what happens if Trubisky tanks? And now the defense tanks because you don’t have someone like Fangio leading them? My doubts don’t lie with Fox as much they do with Loggains and Pace. Your hope for changing the coaching staff is based on Pace being able to make a winning choice. My concern is he won’t.

No. Apparently you missed it but my idea of having Toub come in as OC was the ‘dumbest idea ever’. (LOL). Canning Fox and Loggains might work if part of your proposal involves keeping Fangio. But remember, Fox is defensive minded, not offense. If you decide to rid us of all of them I think it would prove dangerous. Potentially as bad if not worse than what happened in 2013.

One that knows he (Fox) gets renewed if the team goes to the playoffs or beyond next year. If Trubisky is 'it' then that's all our team needs, is someone who could develop him right? As others have pointed out, Fox has proven he can surround himself with good coaches. He did it with Fangio.

Again, don't ignore the 'talent' that Pace has cultivated for Fox to work with. Fangio, to his credit is doing a pretty good job. Loggains? Not so much. Or is it the 'talent'? You have a handful of D2 players and Trubisky trying to learn the NFL level of play with Loggains leading the way. Fox was able to some pretty impressive things with the likes of Delhomme and Tebow. I don't think that can be discounted, even if it was some time ago. So instead I'm guessing you'd prefer an unproven coach and hope for a McVay (sp?)? That hope could just as easily flop and set our team back even further than what it is now.

Being a loyal Lovie fan even I realized the mistakes he's made in the past with O coordinators (or was it Cutler screwing it up?)...anyhow... But to compare the 'revolving door' philosophy of OC's with Lovie and Fox is not fair, not to Fox anyhow. Since he's been with the team, who have his OC's been? Gase and Loggains. Gase is off doing his thing in Miami and Loggains...well he's in Chitown doing his thing, whatever that is. If you look at Loggain's past all he's been is a quarterback's coach for Tennessee, Cleveland and Chicago before getting where he is now. And no he wasn't in Tennesse when Mairota was there. He was promoted to their OC after Chris Palmer was fired in 2012. Personally I think, if Fox stays, he should be given another shot with a different OC. Potentially losing both Fox and Fangio would equate a rebuild to me.

This^^^ Need to let Amos and Jackson solidify. Also saw that L. Houston is back and so too is Trevathan. I predict we'll see an uptick in defensive performance mostly due to Trevathan's return...and hopefully he'll finish out the season injury free.

I like this thought completely. Hear a lot of good things about him. I'd say in order of preference: Fox (with a different OC - perhaps Shaw?), Harbaugh ~ Shaw (close tie).

I'm assuming the quote you showed was from Loggains? If that be the case I'm not sure how he can rate last week's performances as one of Trubisky's best. IMHO it was quite the contrary. I agree he's having issues with reading the defenses and getting into the flow of things abut if you look at his ability on his first start versus last week, he's regressed. Granted he threw a game ending INT in that first game with Minnesota but overall he looked comfortable and solid. Last week he was off. Several missed throws and a few more near misses in INTs. I'd be ok if they wanted to keep Fox on staff but Loggains needs to go.

I’m curious to see if we don’t already have the ‘stud backup’ in the roster in Trubisky. Until he proves franchise worthy, I’ll stay with that. At this point I’d be ok with them going into next year with both Trubisky and Glennon on the roster and like you draft a third QB. I wouldn’t go round 1-2 for him but like you said look for a great deal in the later rounds. To me the players of first and second round consideration are WR and Tackle. Yes I said it...Oline.

I found this article that leans towards some of my concerns about the current situation and especially Pace. One difference for me is that I’m not convinced Fox is a horrible coach. https://www.windycitygridiron.com/2017/11/2...e-poor-judgment

Again (BOLDED) that in and of itself is a feat. No matter how you slice it. In his prime Marv Levy was considered a football legend because he went to four consecutive Super Bowls despite not being able to win any of them. The fact being, at least his teams got the chance to be there. Would they fire a coach these days because of a record like that? Probably. It probably also deserves repeating that not only did Fox take two separate teams to Super Bowls but also used players like Jake Delhomme to go to one and Tim Tebow to get close with another. Yes; Peyton put them over the top but through it all the constant was the same; Fox...until it wasn't.

Wow... talk about over the top! Lol. I should remind you guys that mentioning Lovie could get you admitted to a psych evaluation. How dare you!!! (Sorry Mad, had to). So here’s a perspective to think about. I was recently perusing some articles about Fox’s current situation and found an article that in part read; ‘Players shocked to find Fox let go’. As it turned out it was an article about his leaving Denver a few years back. That being said what has happened to Denver since he left? So far they are a combined 24-19 to include a current 3-8 record this year and a 12-4 record the year after Fox left: the same year they won the Super Bowl. An argument could be made that having Fox leave was key to propel them to a win in the Super Bowl rather than just appear in it. At any rate I’m still of the opinion we should still continue to question the ability of Pace. Sure you expect the players to play well and maybe Fox is to blame for not motivating them enough. But you have a performer and potential pro bowler in Hicks calling for him to stay. I don’t think he’s in any way shape or form “coddled”. But there are some players like 2017 draft picks Shaheen, Cohen and Morgan who all came from D2 schools that may take a bit longer to get used to the speed of the NFL. Heck even Trubisky is showing some growing pains with the NFL after having limited exposure in a D1 enviornment. Fox is not the one harvesting these players. I realize that Fox will ultimately answer to this current situation and almost wonder if he’s more a fall guy. We won’t really know until after Pace makes his choice from the alleged list. Nor will we know until after a year or two of possible continued mediocrity or worse.

Could it be leaders like Hicks want Fox back next year and others may not? “Akiem Hicks said today on @mullyhanley that he wants John Fox to be back with the Bears. "As a group and as a team, we’re 1,000 percent behind him." http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2017/11/27/aki...h-job-security/

Im with you but not quite ready to wholesale give up on Fox. A lot of reasons already listed on another post (and I won’t rehash here) but the biggest piece is the potential loss of Fangio. And I’m not completely sold that what we’re seeing is completely Fox’s fault. My ‘sixth sense’ tells me something isn’t right behind the scenes. Could it be true that Fox is more a power hungry control freak that is limiting the teams growth or is it the much less experienced GM not able to deliver top tier talent because he’s sure it can be found in lower tier D2 schools and the like? Either way, we dump Fox now and I see it causing a significant ripple effect that hopefully would prove positive. But the conspiracist in me cant help wonder if it’s that obvious.