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Good thought. I’m pretty sure Wright will be on the team next year...or at least should be. When I see Gordon play I see a lot of Megatron in him. Similar build and playing style.

I miss the old argumentative Jason...lol (not really). Ok. I’d be down with that but I still would like to see what he can do at Illinois. Even though he’s in the Big 10 where the beloved Huskers play. But you’re right; both he and Fox (I believe) have that true old school ‘rah-rah’ coaching ability.

Would Josh Gordon be worthy to pursue in the off season? Sure is a nice looking WR...when he’s sober.

Apparently there are rumors that Captain Jack Del Rio is in jeapordy of losing his job. Talk about a sweet deal to walk into if that be the case. They have star quality players all over the place if they can just manage to keep Carr healthy. And no I’m not suggesting Del Rio become the next HC, just interesting should someone like Toub be considered. He could make a name for himself with a team already primed like the Raiders.

“...happened to fall....”. Are you kidding? Of the nine years Lovie was coach they only went below .500 three times and one was his first year with the team. He managed to get the team to the Super Bowl with the likes of Rex Grossman and nearly once more with f*#king Jay Cutler. An argument could be made that he was turning the Bucs around until they thought they needed Koetter instead. Yeah, how’s that work out for them? Lovie didn’t happen to fall into anything. Being ‘good enough’ for nine years is a far cry from where things have been since. I don’t know how you can conceivably draw a conclusion that Trestmans failure was due to what Lovie left him. Lest I remind you only one year prior, Lovies last, the team was 10-6.

I think Adam was referring to the recent stat that showed Fox had a worse losing record (in his tenure as Bears HC) as did Abe Gibron. Who before that was the worst. To me though the product of a win loss record and ability to coach are different especially when you compare someone like Fox and Gibron. Fox has ‘been there, done that’ with other teams, Abe had not. I realize that some will still insist that the game has passed Fox by but I don’t buy it. I’m still of the opinion there is something higher up that needs to change (Pace). I wouldn’t mind seeing Toub get a shot at it but I still harbor concerns for our team’s overall performance for the next few years and potentially effecting Toubs reputation because of Pace.

Peyton would be an intriguing choice. If he were to try out coaching I could see him in Denver for some reason. And wouldn’t it be weird if Eli ended up there as the QB? I’m going to go out on a limb and say Fox is back next year.

Speaking of non-fan faves; Kyle Fuller. I really wish that guy could string together more consistency. It seems as though this year was by far one of his best but he still needs to do his ‘best’ in all the games he plays, not just a few of them.

Ha... if anyone was snubbed on this team it was Hicks (and probably Howard). But yeah Amos has had a pretty solid year. More good things to come from he and Jackson I’m sure.

I’m with you in that I’m not convinced letting Fox go is the answer. I’m too worried if they get rid of the whole coaching staff part and parcel then we’ll be going through at least 2-3 more years of mediocrity. I don’t think doing what LA did in ridding themselves of Fisher and bringing Mcvay is as common as we’d hope. Honestly I’d be apt to believe we’d be more like the Broncos and their lost season. And to answer the question about Fisher...absolutely not.

I was impressed. The same could be said about Cutler... occasionally. Sometimes he would be good and I’d love it...then all too often he’d be bad. I’m not saying I see the same traits but I believe in sustained and continued performance before I’ll buy in. That being said; the whole team came to play. The line, as patchwork as it was, Kyle Fuller (talk about sporadic play), the D overall even with all the holes it had, Shaheen, Kendall Wright and others all significantly contributed. To me this looked like a team that had finally met its potential. Whether or not that’s true is yet to be seen.

Cincinnati had a lot to lose in this and played at home. All factors that should not have played to the Bears favor.

I’m thinking Kendall Wright is making a case to come back next year. I’d say he’s worthy. This isn’t the only good game he’s had this year.

So now the question... did Fox ‘lose the team’ as many allege?

I think Trubisky should keep playing with that Michael Jackson glove. Seems to play to his favor.

Did I see Kevin White out there? *edit: never mind. It was Inman with that hoodie on.

Addressing the Gould point first and taking into account what Stinger says after you. Skeptics like me will question whether it was a good idea to keep Gould or not especially considering how well he’s doing now (and has been) and then, as Stinger says, keep a player like Barth as long as they did. I have the benefit of ‘hindsight’ to make my judgement; he allegedly is a talent scout and should be able to predict better what will or won’t happen. Too bad if it’s not fair but I don’t get paid millions for my ‘opinion’. So if I understand you correctly, you’re defending Pace on his picks as RBS? If that be the case; remember Fox is an RBC coach and would as soon draft RBs every year if he could. Pace usually pulls the trigger on those draft picks and personnel moves. He made a choice to draft Langford and let go Forte. He saw Langford struggle and realized he needed someone else and went with Howard the next year (a great pick in my book). But then, for whatever reason, reached into the shallow well of the D2 talent and found Cohen. (Im still not sold on him yet). Anyhow some will say he got Cohen because he thought of Sproles and the success he had at Nola. Others will insist he (Cohen) should be catching more passes as a wideout or slot receiver. Not sure that is the solution either (Hester). But yes you bring up the fact that Cunningham is still on the team and that’s a valid and concerning point. Why is that?

I don’t get the betting analogy but no matter. Sure, at the time it may have seemed reasonable (wouldn’t say wise) to cut Gould when they did. But many questioned it at the time and with many head-scratching moves since then (including bringing in and keeping Barth on the roster) we have to doubt Pace’s judgement. The fact that Gould has done pretty darn well since then only solidifies that doubt. Remember, Pace’s forte is supposed to be talent scouting right? (Speaking of Forte; Pace was the same one convinced Langford could replace Matt). I digress. That’s a mighty big IF that you and Pace are ‘betting’ on. And I have a hard time being convinced Glennon was perused by other NFL teams. Just like I don’t buy others were clamoring for Trubiisky. I’m curious who these ‘quite a few players are’. I’m with TD that Pace could be a liability to this team.

I’ll say he looked a lot better than I expected in that first game against Minnesota. They let him do some of the things we expected them to. The offense seemed balanced. But since then, for whatever reason things have gradually degraded. I’d agree with some analysts that it appeared they were opening the book up more but the more they did that, the more overwhelmed Trubisky looks. Seems it should be going the other way. One thing I know he’s damned not to do is TO the ball; especially from INTs. But because of that he’s taking too long in the pocket and watching his receivers too long. We see the result of that. Whether it be a sack (he’s started taking more of them) or him trying to force a scramble. The overall results are diminished pass attempts. I blame that on some play calling but probably more so play execution; or lack thereof.

Not being a fan may a bit harsh. I actually meant it more to reflect where he was picked. Which really isn’t his doing. I’m still stale to his play. Haven’t seen anything ... yet ... to make me feel warm and fuzzy to call him out ‘future’.

I don't have to be convinced ... any longer. He's in over his head, IMHO. The problem I have is the lack of talent he's provided Fox will be his (Fox's) demise and not his own. At least not this year... Good work on spotting it. I have two issues (although minor) to your post. One being I'm not a fan of Trubisky's. At least not yet. And I am a fan of Inman's. Dude seems to be a decent WR, maybe not #1 or #2 but he can hold his own.

If I’m nothing else I’m at least sentimental. Given the owners (in this case) are related to the founding father Papa Bear, I’ll always argue they have a right to ‘own’. But anything outside of that should be considered to be either replaced or re-assigned. If it’s a family member that is not where they belong, they get out (as you suggest) in a corner office; out of sight, out of mind. That is except for Virgina. She gets a pass. Anyone who is not genetically tied to the team can go. I’d think Ted Phillips is numero uno on that list. Perhaps Arcosi’s analysis should have looked at this rather than the GM / HC positions.

I was wondering when you’d be back. As I’ve been pushing this anti-Pace discussion I couldn’t help but recall you’re not liking him from the get go. I’ll be the first to admit you were right.

“HIV and Penicillin?” Really?

Don’t think I buy that entirely. Pace admitted to being attracted to Barth perhaps from Fox’s endorsement but also on his being available and recently cut from New Orleans. We know how much Pace loves his NO roots. http://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/chicago-b...wo-step-process