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Everything posted by Alaskan Grizzly
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To borrow a quote from the late Dennis Greene, to crown CJ Stroud’s ass right now might be a little immature. His team is only one (or two) game(s) ahead of Chicago and he hasn’t played in the last two (??) games. Before that he threw for a total of 91 yards to the NYJ. To further exacerbate the conversation of bust drafts, the one thing I’d prefer to avoid is become the next iteration of the Browns. Since 1999 they’ve drafted 5 QBs (two as 1st overalls) and have nothing to show for it. The guy they’re stumbling into the playoffs with is a nearly 40 year old former 1st round pick who until a few weeks ago was sitting on a couch somewhere.
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To be fair he’s also being injured for the last number of weeks. Surprising given he’s a more pocket passer. (Yes that’s me being a little cynical).
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If you ask me, option A. And what about Mahomes? What the heck is going on with him? He’s had at least one INT in each of the last four games. And had a 73.6 rating today against the lowly Raiders.
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Yup. And the unknowns of how that translates to the NFL is concerning. I personally don’t have any confidence that either Maye nor Williams are “it”.
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His detractors want perfection. And some use stats to make their point. A lot of times stats can be used subjectively. Today, for example, if the Bears lean on the run game because AZ isn’t a great defense then it draws away from Fields’ opportunities to throw the ball. The Field supporters could make a counter argument that he hasn’t been given an ideal situation to thrive in.
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It’s a good question. With non-mobile QBs it’s key to keep the rush on and slowly chip away at their confidence of pocket protection. Like we saw with Goff and Flacco (and all their sacks and TOs). But with a player like Murray it’s more of keeping him hemmed in and forcing him to focus on the middle of the field. And they have a semi-effective offensive coordinator who knows how to make adjustments.??♂️
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So far Williams (USC) has shown he’s challenged against better teams ans especially those who are ranked. How will that translate to the NFL? Probably not well.
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I’d be curious to see stats on how players like Lamar, Mahomes and even Hurts do as “traditional (pocket passing) QBs versus their own version of “hero QBIng”. I saw a graphic the other day where had it not been for the “tush push” and the number of TDs it has generated for Hurts he’d essentially be Fields. We have seen what happens when Mahomes hasn’t had good receivers this year. And when his starting line isn’t available when he literally ran for his life during the SB he lost a few years ago.
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If he throws four TDs regardless from the pocket, rolling out or scrambling that’s generally called ‘winning football’.
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Fields and Lawrence are sorta trending similarly. Fields peaked about 15 games ago (which was higher than Lawrence at that point) and looks to have dropped the beginning of this season (plus lost four games to injury). The data shows Lawrence has 14 games on Justin and I would agree if he (Justin) wins out he be trending the same as Trevor.
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Curious to see if they had a collegiate version of this. And how it translates from one to the other.
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Curious where you found this graph? And can you plug any QB into it?
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And if I get out of line my disclaimer is that my post was brought courtesy of whatever Whiskey I’m drinking. Which because I’m on vacation, I’m drinking my share. ?