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And he took SF to the Super Bowl with Kaepernick as his QB. And this was despite having Alex Smith on the roster. Ironically Fangio was his DC in SF if memory serves.

It’s a fair question and honestly I don’t have a sound answer for it. It’s more a gut feeling or ‘eye test’ measure. In looking at both these guys’ history it tells me they were both transfers to their final schools. Penix played for Indiana (of the Big 10) his first four years and compiled a record of 12-5. His Freshman year it looks as though he didn’t play at all and then minimally for the next three (besides the COVID year, curious why that is). Then he transfers to Washington (PAC-12) and starts setting all the records we hear of. Then in last night’s game he really withered on the vine under relentless pressure. Nix’s story is somewhat similar except that he started playing for Auburn (SEC) and beat Alabama in the “Iron Bowl” in his Freshman year. He also led Auburn to a 9-4 record that year. The next two years (including 2020) were more “up and down” and he transferred after the 2021 season. He cited at the time it was mostly due to the new head coach they had hired for the 2021 season. When Nix transferred to Oregon (PAC-12) he also started ‘going off’ a bit more and set a few records of his own. I guess if I had to nail down my primary concern it would have to be that why wait so long to come out to the NFL? They’re both either the same age or close to it as Fields and he’s been in the league for three now. But I can answer my own question (sort of) by adding they had COVID 2020 to contend with (so did Justin) and after both transferred to (some would say the lesser PAC 12 Division) they put up some eye-popping stats that really (should) help their draft capital. (pictures below are of Penix and Nix respectively).

To be fair, that screen shot I found was posted back sometime in December. Still I would think the thought process will remain to some level.

This is an intriguing perspective. Penix didn’t look all that hot tonight especially under pressure. One thing that concerns me about both Penix and Nix is how they’re both 6th and 5th year seniors .

Or Kevin Warren. Would make for an interesting pairing given their history.

He would also (probably) be privy to any internal discussions they’ve been having about Justin. And what value he has for the team, either in trade or otherwise. I would think both Ian and Poles would be professional enough to consider that.

Riddle me this. You’ve suggested Fields might do better playing for a different team and/or for a better system. And in theory if the Bears draft a new QB he will have new OC if not HC. Then why wouldn’t Justin benefit from having a new OC in Chicago? Especially if you consider any of the new draftees will have no NFL experience? And if you also consider all you have to go by are Nagy/Lazor and Getsy as Justin’s coordinators?

I second this…after Pix did. ??

Simple answer…play calling by his HC. We saw it yesterday head to head with ours and his was by far better.

Of course you would say that.

And Foreman.

Cute. When you get a chance to see the all-22 tell me I’m wrong.

Yup.

Maybe… There was a high safety just behind Moore that was starting to make a break as Justin was thinking of throwing it. .5 second later the DL-man was in Justin’s face. And Moore didn’t look back until right about that same time. Had Justin thrown an INT we’d be critiquing him for that.

The line has been pretty porous. He’s had regular pressure in his face all day. Scripted plays or no isn’t really a factor.

Let’s wait until after next year when teams have some intel on him and see how things shake out. ??‍♂️

Added this on another thread but it appears AJ Dillon will be out and as a result Aaron Jones and recently re-acquired Emmanuel Lewis will be carrying the running game for GB. Lewis just recently returned from IR and Jones has only had two 100 yard games this season (those being in the last two weeks).

That will be key tomorrow. He can move but nowhere near where Justin can in a bind. The game of ‘psy-ops’ will be important in that the more rushed he (Love) sees will play into his internal clock. Any hits and sacks they can add in will be the cherry on top. Looks like the running game will primarily be on Aaron Jones and recently signed Emmanuel Lewis (who recently came off IR) due to AJ Dillon not being available.

200 yards a game isn’t bad if you also add in rushing to the mix. In Loves last 17 games (16 this season) he’s managed 3,852 passing yards (avg ~230/game) and 240 yards rushing (4,082 total yards) with 34 TDs. Justin’s last 17 games had 3,167 passing yards and 1,024 rushing yards (4,191 total yards) with 27 total TDs. They aren’t all that far apart. Edit: should add, the NFL has one year of tape on Love and three years on Fields. And he’s progressed despite that. What will happen in year 2 and 3 for Love remains to be seen.

You listed Goff in the loss (good QB) and win (bad QB) category. Similar to AZ’s point, I’d agree that Goff has been putting up some pretty decent numbers since joining the Lions and because of that his near miss and win this season should weigh heavier in his favor (IMHO). And the point about Wilson being benched could be similar to Herbert. Although not a “bad QB” his team is a mess and was out of the playoffs earlier than Chicago. Sure early this season Mahomes was continuing in his winning ways but I’d be willing to bet if they had to play against each other right now, Chicago could beat them.

And hes a “local” product (Orland Park). Been a fan of the Bears since he was a kid. Couldn’t find the pic but there was one of him on the social media network wearing a Bears jersey as a kid (think Urlacher?) and I saw a story where his grandma would play the “Super Bowl Shuffle” for him on VHS whenever he’d visit her .

Seems to me Feeney should get the shot. ??‍♂️

Saw a comment that noted although Edwards did at least comparable if not better than Smith statistically (he also allegedly got more Pro Bowl votes) Smith was chosen to go to the Pro Bowl where Edwards was not . A couple illustrations below to include the reminder of the deal Poles made to get Edwards on the team vs keeping Smith.

Sorta like had Poles negotiated with Johnson earlier this season (when he allegedly was seeking to be traded), Poles would’ve saved a lot more money than waiting until now. ??‍♂️

Poles is a player’s GM. Since he’s used to being in the locker room that’s where he feels comfortable. If the players are ok with it and he’s able to make the tough decisions when it matters (as you say) then I have no issue with it. Gotta think Ian Cunningham is due some credit to Poles and the team’s success in drafting and personnel management. I suspect he’ll be gone this year. I read the Commanders and Raiders are eyeballing him for GM. The silver lining is that if he gets hires as GM the Bears get another draft pick or two (?)