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Besides Pace, Nagy had a lot to do with this pick. If he is our K. Hunt, I would say all of this is a winner. Pace didnt grab a backup, he got a front line player that will have an impact on the offense this year. If he ends up with 2 or 3 players that make a contribution this year, I think that is the best we can expect. Buffalo took a RB with the next pick so I think he went after his guy because he wouldnt be there at 87. This means Mizzel is gone, thank God.

Antwaan Taylor/OT is ranked everywhere as top 15 player that is still there especially when 6 drafting teams need OL.

The Packers drafted potentially good players. Gary is the closest thing to Mack coming out of the draft. He is a boom a bust player. Has injury and lack of motor questions. Savage will be a good player but at best ranked 5th best for S. Highest ranking was at 58. Seems they could have gotten him in the 2nd round. The Lions took a good player a little high but fits their needs as the new regime let Ebron go when experts compare E.J they use Ebron as his upside. Minnesota made a good pick that will help them immediately .

Since we actually do not need a starter anywhere, what depth spot is the biggest priority? If we lose MT, Chase can cover a few games, last year we had this scenario and we finished 12-4. If MT is out for the year we are screwed anyway. If we lose a WR, we have M. Hall, Patterson, and Wims as backups. position is good If we lose Davis we still have Cohen, Nall and Patterson, that would work out. If we lose Burton- a problem, Sheehan would have to step up and fins some help. If we lose a OL we have Coward, Sowell, Larsen, Beavers, and Allen to backup, position will be okay If we lose a CB we have Tolliver, MacManis, Joseph, Franklin III, and Mincy, I would say we may need help If we lose a S we have Bush and Houston-Carson, definitely we need help. If we lose an edge we have Irving, Fitts, and Lynch, could probably need some help here. I we lose a ILB we have Kwit, and Joel Iggy, I think we would be okay. If we lose a DL we have HHR, Williams, Anderson and Bullard, probably would get by. The biggest depth priority is TE, S.CB and potentially edge and RB. I also think Pace thinks offensive needs are more important than defensive needs. D was tops in the league if they take a step back, they will be still top 10. The offense needs to take a step forward from rated 21 in the league. O will be more more important. So I think our 3,4,5 picks will be TE, S, CB, and possible RB if the BPA is in the mix. There are still several high ranked Ss and CBs left in the draft. TEs and RBs are in the mix depending on how the draft plays out.

I seen him rated anywhere from 58 to 113. That shows you the amateur draftneaks are all a guessing game.

To be honest I do not think they think it is a weakness or it would be a priority . The draft will tell the story.

I just signed up for The Athletic and with that I got Dane Buglers draft guide. After everything I have digested, here is my last mock draft. 3 ) We trade back in the fourth with Denver and get 113 and 125 4) Edwards/S can play several positions and a physical tackler. 4) Hollins/OLB good quickness 4) Isiah Johnson/CB good speed and size 5) A.Mack/TE good speed and route running 7) Tony Pollard/RB good size and quickness, can make the splash plays, excellent receiver. 7) A. Bars/OG played for Harry so he knows what he is capable of going forward.

The comparisons don’t work. Goldman is a different position with different responsibility, and RRH is also subpar. Why I feel comfortable saying this is the fact that neither RRH nor Nichols ever really stepped up and/or surprised last year. At best they were the DE equivalent of QB game managers. As you say they are very average, you really think your going to get a difference maker in the 3rd round. I doubt that a middle round 5T is going to come in and beat out 2 developmental players already on the roster. you will see a step up in production as Nichols gains more strength and experience.

His highlight film looks good as do many prospects. I listed him because him and Sternberger were the only 2 TEs they brought in a private visit. As you said you didnt like him I viewed many draft profiles and he is more of a 4th or 5th round pick but has good catching ability.

Since Pace is going to go with the BPA, here is my list of players I would be happy with with draft value around that spot in the draft. Henderson/RB Sanders/RB Sternberger/TE Oliver/TE Howard/OT McGovern/OG Jordan/OG Miller/edge/Ala Walker/edge/Georgia Savage/S Hooker/S Johnson/CB/Ken Long/CB Obviously there are some higher ranked players that would be good, but I doubt if any of the top 50 would drop that far.

If we take Love , 5th at the earliest, prefer 7th.

The problem is you have to trade draft capital of which we dont have and also a 4 to 5 mil contract. Not likely.

NIchols is a player, there is usually a big jump between the 1st and 2nd year.

I think if Sanders or Henderson is there we take them in the 3rd. In the fourth Singletary, or Williams In the fifth I think they like Armstead or Weber In the 7th James Williams or Mattison. I actually think if we didnt draft a RB we would be fine with Nall moving on the roster and Patterson taking 40 reps.

The more tape I watch the more I get confusion. I have been watching some tape on R. Anderson and he looks pretty good, minus the injury worries. Also Mattison from Boise State, has a good highlight film.I am not sure why but I keep thinking R. Armstead will be our pick in the 5th.

depending on draft value for the round hes picked in but a nose tackle backup not as a 5T.

We have cap money, but someone like Suh would probably demand a 8-10 salary for one year. He made 14 mil last year.

I think he goes with BPA in the first 3 rounds , so anybody we dont get a depth positions we miss in draft we will definitely find after vets are released.

He is listed as a starter and started the last 5 games. There is usually a big jump from year 1 to 2 because of adapting to playing at NFL speed and the fact they get stronger on a program. Yes a stud there would upgrade the front 7 but there is no guarantee one will be there in the third round.. Anybody as BPA Im ok with. If LDT, or OLB, but I really dont see a WR or NT at that spot.

Why will he cost to much, you mean as a 3rd pick? Personally want them to grab a 5th round pick.

Since I am not very bright, I look to the Bears and their visits to give me clarity in the RB choices. 4 RBs came in for a visit after viewing them at their pro day. The Bears have to make an effort to go to a pro day as in having players come in for a visit. Williams Singletary Weber Lexington Thomas There are 5 players that we used a visit and had back for a private work out Sanders Williams Singletary Weber Armstead So to narrow down who we may draft, early rounds would be Sanders, and Williams, maybe Singletary I can see us waiting until the 4th or 5th and grabbing Weber, Singletary or possibly Armstead. Something that makes me curious is we have not visited with Henderson, who I personally thought was the best fit for Nagy's offense. So I think the Bears like Williams and Sanders the best. I leave Singletary out of the conversation because his lack of speed takes away the explosive plays they want in the RB situation. If they wait until after the 3rd, I think Singeltary is a possible pick if he slips to the 5th I also think they are high on Armstead and Weber in the 5 th. So my conclusion is Williams in the third or Weber in the 5th.

I think we could already have some of the replacements on the roster to replace the players you mentioned. Joel Iggy, Coward, and Tolliver. We do not Know what the Bears thing of them. We lack backups at S and OL so I think those could be more priority.

With limited picks, I see us concentrating on the offensive side of the ball.Except for one DB and maybe a OLB.

As much as i like all the picks, I think that draft a OL somewhere in the draft. The defense is borderline the best defense with filling two positions with decent replacements. We have Ted Larson, ( very average) and Sowell ( very average) as our backups . I see us drafting someone like Max Schraping that could fill backup at both positions and possibly taking over for Long after this year. Nagy claims we have a great defense but a poor offense so I see up adding to the offense more as a priority. So a RB, TE and OL help first. I absolutely think we may trade back and get more picks. Mid range picks are strong at RB, OG and TEs, so I see us addressing those early. RB- Jacobs, Mongomery, and Sanders will be gone. Possibly that Henderson and Williams will be borderline at our 87th pick. So that leaves us Singletary, Weber, Armstead, Hill, Harris, Snell, Ozigboh, and Mattison. OL- in our draft value range Dieter/OG, Edgoa/OT, Samia/OG, Howard/OT, Little/OT, Daley/OT. Later in the draft-Edwards/OT, Schraping/OT-OG, Evans/OT-OG, Powers/OG, Jordan/OG, Bars/OG. I think Schraping and Evans fit our situation in a 4th round range. TE- Oliver, Wilson, Smith, Sternberger,Knox, Warring, Moreau, Raymond, Mack. If we trade back(good idea) and end up with a 3rd, 2- 4ths 5th, 2- 7th. Williams-3rd Schraping-4a S or CB-4b 5th- Warring 7th- OLB 7th-CB or S

The starters are Hicks, Goldman, Nichols. Backups are RRH and Bullard. Bullard is very average and has not shined. But RRH and Nichols have looked good. That also resigned Nick Williams to back up Goldman for the second year. So they must like him a little. Yes they could use one strong draft pick but I think they will draft some depth players in positions where we could have cap casualties next year. To replace Long, Prince and Trevathan because of their high price contracts. Plus they will definitely draft a RB even thou you won't like it. I just seen a mock draft that satisfied a few needs that look good to me. Hooker in the third which can play S or CB . Max Scharpling in the fourth who can play OG or OT. Which could end up taking Longs place or be a swing OT backup. Mike Weber in the 5th round. I have been watching a lot of tape on him and I have to admit he looks pretty good. We actually have met with him 3 times. 7a Carl Granderson/edge 7b Mark Fields/CB.