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I think White will heal nicely and be available yet this season. He will have alot of learning to do though. I wouldn't expect much but would like to see him get the experience in.

Always a debbie downer who would rather say I told you so than ride the wagon. Glad we had a reason to high five and enjoy. Bear down!

He is stating were some Bears are in the NFL all time. Nice to know imo. Keep it up!

True, but I also know our best shot. Sitting at the game, great experiance and talking to all Raiders fans that flew over everyone knows they would be ine trouble if Jay played. Admit Jay is our only shot now, I ready admit we need to draft a replacement.

Hate all you want. 6-0, until someone better comes in it is Jays town.

I would not pass the top QB if one is avaialble and has the right traits, which I feel Goff may (still early). If we win enough games not to have that chance, I would look at Ronnie Stanley OT next. If both are gone, give me the top d-lineman or trade down. I think this D is missing quality dbacks and would rather not draft one with our first. They also need another sack threat, which I would be fine with Bosa or Nkimdiche. If they go D, get me Kessler rd 2 or 3.

I think some folks are Packer fans in disguise as everyone is up for trade or to be cut. Who is left out of everyone mentioned? Kyle Long?

One QB is not enough in this league. I would draft one high, let him compete and learn under Jay year one. Decide Jays fate after that year evaluation. If the rookie looks promising, draft another to groom into a backup role and to keep pressure on the rookie. Regardless, you are going to see boneheaded mistakes from every QB unless you have Aaron Rodgers.

I would take a WAS/STL type of trade! What is really bad is I want Goff and in round 2 an offensive lineman like Max Tuerk who can play C, G, or RT. I know this team needs defensive playmakers worse, so they can go either way come draft.

Another guy that hasn't recieved much praise is Cody Kessler USC. He also is a high % passer with low INT. He is 6-1, but so is Aaron Rodgers. Kessler won't be a first round prospect imo, but is worth a flier if we do not have a shot in landing a Goff in RD1.

He is 200# and 20 years old, I think he he will put on another 15-20 in time. Once he hits 21 and puts down a few 12 oz'ers

I don't think they draft a d-lineman when they are in the rebuild mode unless they do not like any of the QB's available. I we end up with the 1 pick overall it will be QB and a new start. That would also give us the 32 pick since NE lost their 1st RD rights.

I am drumming up Jared Goff. I think he has what it takes to be a great pro QB. If Pace wants to put his stamp on this team, this is the guy.

It is still early and hard to judge when you lose your starting QB before the 2nd half of game two is completed. If he was drafted by GB, he would be an probowler by now.

Maybe after the season. I'm guessing you didn't get to see the last game. If they don't have a halfway competent qb, they better blackout the rest of the season. I can take the Cutler flops, but not Jimmy Pickles.

Forte will only go if we get a 3-4th, otherwise I think we get a conditional pick for him after the year when he signs elsewhere.

Interesting; Pace basically said after the Khari Lee deal he has time and ways to get that 6th round pick back. I do not see Forte moving unless we get more than we think through a compensation pick. He will hit the open market and may get us a 4th or 5th in return. There is only one player left I see and thought would have been traded is Willie Young. I was thinking Carolina for him. I luv Young, but he isn't a natural fit and should have value.

0-3 was projected, had to be one of the worst draws to start a season. Get the horses healthy and see what happens.

I do recall you lobbying for him. I liked him alot also. I was glad we got Grasu because oline is always a need but he was basically a redshirt pick.

If we by chance end up with a top 3 pick and have choice of QB, you have to seriously consider Jared Goff of Cal. He will have questions because of playing spread offense and being skinny (200#), but the kid has the "it". Why I see that factor is his completion % and TD to INTs. They are both great because he sees the whole field and uses progressions. He doesn't have a go to #1 nfl WR prospect. He knows how to look off DBs and find the open man. Nothing spectacular in athletic or arm strength, but nothing poor in those caregories either. He is clutch and plays big in big games too. He has surpassed all Cals QBs in stats, including Aaron Rodgers too to throw that in. Having Cutler will allow him time to adjust to a NFL system, like Mariota is adjusting to now. If we get the opportunity, I would be torn because of other needs to improve on while having a serviceable guy in Jay, but finding a QB in the draft would be pretty cool too.

We need to find the talent for sure 10 years of misses. I think Carimi could have stuck around if it wasn't for the knee injury, that took away his biggest asset of power. Williams was just piss poor evaluation imo, you cannot miss red flag back problems. Many of us called for Brandon Albert that year even if he was considered more of a G. I am high on USC C, Max Tuerk. I think he will be a great G or possible RT in the NFL. I hope he is our Rd 2 pick if he doesnt keep climbing into rd1. Then we can take a later flier on a OLT development prospect like Joe Haeg of North Dakota St U. This offense is loaded with potential if they can just block or not draw a flag. Defense has a way to go, but they have a young solid front 7 to start. I think Pace should target the best CB and S in FA and buy some time with the D. Add a first rd 5T in Bosa/Nkimdiche to boast the front while waiting on the contracts of Houston, Young, Allen to expire. This is of course if we keep tanking to reach those guys in the top 5. If not, there are some great ILBs in this class with J Smith, S Wright, M Jack we can think about too.

We definately need to invest more draft picks on the O line. I would like to see a first or second round spent here in the next draft. I think on D, we can spend some cap money on defensive backs to improve that unit. I am torn between taking QB with the first or OLT or 5T DE. Cutler can be servicable with a complete unit I feel, but a new face would excite the doubters (Goff). If they go QB or Bosa etc rd1, then round two needs to be on the oline. Right now, Colts fans are angry. They are starting to call for Paganos head and the young GM Grigson. Their D is getting old and they have a poor O line. Sounds familiar. With 7 draft picks, you hope 3 or 4 make it as contibutors. Building a team is tough in this era yet Patriots and Packers seem to find success. It is about having a sucessful gm that picks good coaches that can stay together for years. Together they pick players they will believe in to develop long term. We may be disappointed today, but this is year one of a turn around.

I get what you are saying. The quickest way to win now with the core we have is to draft/add defensive playmakers. The best way to win long term is to find a top 5 QB. How long does Virginia want to wait?

I agree that I think Jay can get it done with a better D and Oline. We also have more cap space next year than most teams, so we can make a couple big moves in FA also. I prefer to avoid FA, but without many players worthy to re-sign, we have to spend somewhere. A 5T that can rush the pass would be huge, but we have 3 young drafted players that are playing now. Bosa or Nkemdiche would be a bonus. OLB we have McPhee, Houston, Allen, and Young all signed through next season, so drafting one high also seems unlikely. CB or S seem logical to draft. QB is highly possible or offensive line. I would sign the top CB and S in FA this offseason. Draft QB round one, best 5T round 2, and OG round 3. 1-Jared Goff QB 2-DeForest Buckner DE/Bronson Kaufusi DE 6-6 280-290 3-Nick Martin C/G That should solidify the offense for 4-6 years, then the following drafts can go defensive heavy.

This could be a tough decision come draft day. Top QB, great OT, or 2 forces on dline, I will even throw in 3 great ILBs with two now hurt. A CB compared to Revis and a top 5-10 S. RD 1 Jared Goff QB-sounds too much like former Cal QB Aaron Rodgers in profiles RD 2 Max Tuerck G/RT - plays C for USC but better used outside IMO. Rd 3 best CB? OR RD1 Ronnie Stanley OLT RD2 Scoobey Wright/Myles Jack ILB RD3 Kevin Hogan QB