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How does ESPN know where the Bears are drafting?
ASHKUM BEAR replied to GakMan23's topic in Bearstalk
I can see the benefits of Smith, Jack, or Ragland. I know Smith and Ragland both play on teams with loaded defensive lines and Jack has Kenny Clark. Having talented fronts will free up the LB. I would be happy with any of these 3, but with Ragland if we traded down as you've stated. If they do plan on drafting LB, I do not think they sign one in FA if Shea is in the works still. My thought process is if they want speed and coverage they go Myles Jack. Big downhill run stuffer is Reggie Ragland. A do all with higher leadership traits, Jaylon Smith. I wont be surprised with going O/D line either with Stanley or Buckner. I left out Ramsey and Hargreaves, but one of those could be in the mix if we select above 8 also. -
Well said AZ! Nearly hit everything the way I feel. Ego/Sutton, hard to give up on guys that are on rookie deals and have started. If the Bears were not short handed, I think Sutton would get shut down too for his arm injury. Porter, if he continued to play like the GB night game, would have played himself into a 5 million contract. But his play seemed to have dropped. Acho's spot should be replaced by a rookie. Young/Houston are playing better and should stay unless we get a great trade offer.
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How does ESPN know where the Bears are drafting?
ASHKUM BEAR replied to GakMan23's topic in Bearstalk
Mock: not authentic or real.... or to tease or laugh at? Is McShay teasing us? Nothing wrong with a little "mock" draft to generate some interest. As for DeForest Buckner, I wouldn't mind him if guys like Ronnie Stanley OT, Jaylon Smith LB, and Myles Jack LB, and Vernon Hargreaves CB are off the board. Too me, he is late first RD material like Eddie Goldman. He would be a force on the D line, but not a JJ Watt type. -
That statistic thing was about saying Carolina has this many picks on the oline compared to Dallas... etc. Using a stat like that barely skims on why a team is playing well or not. All three of our drafted offensive lineman that you refer too as being failures, two were due to significant injury after the draft (Columbo/Carimi). They both suffered right knee injuries, that would require years to regain strength. They were both selected with the 29th pick in the first round also. No player will want to be taken by the Bears again if they pick 29th. Chris Williams was an awful pick, they clearly didn't do there homework since he had a herniated disc also. I wanted Brandon Albert that year and was like Chris who? Finding proven players in FA usually costs a fortune or takes many trials and errors. The consistently good teams in the nfl only use FA on rare occasions. I am waiting for the Bears to get to that level. I am not saying Oline is the only way to go RD1, I want BPA that fills a need.
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Unless you can get a Luke Kuechly.
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The Cowboys oline is great, they are better suited to run than pass imo. The issue should be take the best player that suits a need, not take a certain position like a skill over trench bc of a statistic made up to prove a point. The O-line is a position of need on the Bears, just like LB, S, CB and DT will be. When the Bears turn comes up to pick, they will have a handful of players on their big board that may look like: 1.Robert Nkimdiche DT 2. Ronnie Stanley OT 3. Jaylon Smith LB 4. Myles Jack LB 5. DeForest Buckner DT 6. A'Shawn Robinson DT So now they have to decide which player will give the Bears the best shot at winning. Any of these names would not surprise or upset me unless they say, we have to grab the best skill player.... Laquan Treadwell is the top skill on the board lets load up on WR.
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I wouldn't be opposed in taking two OT's if the right guys were available. 1-Ronnie Stanley OT ND 2-Scooby Wright LB ARZ 3-Jarron Reed DT AL 4-Joe Haeg OT NDSU 5-Miles Killebrew SS Utah 6-CB 6-OLB 6-TE 7-WR
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Anything is possible. The bad part is hoping we get swept
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Cleveland 3-10 @Sea, @KC, Pit..................3-13 Tennessee 3-10 @NE, Tex, @IND................4-12 Baltimore 4-9 KC, Pit, @Cin.......................4-12 San Diego 3-10 Mia, @Oak, @Den.................4-12 Chicago 5-8 @Min, @TB, Det.......................5-11 San Fran 4-9 Cin, @Det, Stl........................5-11 Dallas 4-9 NYJ, @Buf, Was......................5-11 New Orleans 5-8 Det, Jax, @Atl..................6-10 Jacksonville 5-8 Atl, @NO, @Hou................6-10 Detroit 4-9 @NO, SF, @Chi.......................6-10 Miami 5-8 @SD, Ind, NE..........................6-10 St Louis 5-8 TB, @Sea, @SF....................6-10
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Knowingly that we have 9 picks in this coming draft, I wouldn't want to trade down unless the price is ransom. If they can have another repeat draft like last, I would be pleased. This turn around will take a few drafts. With the first pick, getting a OLT, CB, DT, or MLB that can be a difference maker would be a huge start.
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I was just doing a couple mocks and one was with Stanley and then Scooby. The other was Stanley, DT Kenny Clark, and 3rd Rd LB Tyler Matekovich from Temple.
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I think they need to draft a OT in the top 3 rounds. Tunsil, Stanley or Conklin would make a nice addition. I would re-sign Montgomery again to push Grasu, who needs more strength and better technique.
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They can have him. He doesn't seem like a good team player, but has loads of athletic ability. If the Bears select top 10, hopefully a QB or two go ahead of us and we have a shot at Tunsil, Stanley, Ramsey, Hargreaves, or Jaylon Smith/Myles Jack. The way the Bears work, they will probably win out and draft 17-20.
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The Bears depend on having a great kicker, but the old good as Gould has checked out. Time to hang him up. His head is now out of it. Can he get it back? Not worth 4 million for that head game when they can pay a young Gould that is hungry to make it.
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I wouldn't just cut Bennett. He is under a reasonable contract and it is not like TE's grow on trees. If they can get a minimum 5th round pick then maybe. Miller is looking great and has a much better attitude though. If we can draft another solid starting OT/OG, I think we can free up our TE's more. Every comment you here from the team is Bennett will be missed in the blocking game. He was leaned on a lot to block.
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RG is a place of need. I would have no issue in starting him there to get him accumulated to the speed of the NFL. If he progresses like Long, move him outside. His foot speed may be something that can be improved. I like his heart though, to walk on and earn his scholarship shows dedication.
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Here is my take: 1-15 Jack Conklin OLT Mich St 6-6 325 2-47 Jonathan Bullard DL FL 6-4 290 3-79 Cordrea Tankersley CB Clem 6-1 195 4-111 Tyler Matakevich LB Temple 6-2- 235 5-143 Miles Killebrew SS So Utah - 6-2 223 6-175 William Likely CB/KR Maryland 5-7 176 6-189 Travis Feeney OLB Wash 6-3 230 6-190 Montese Overton OLB E Car 6-3 220 7-208 Devon Johnson FB/RB/TE Marshall 6-1 243
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With our WR depth, I like him in the slot. Poor mans Wes Welker. But on returns, maybe time to try Thompson on punts.
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Crazy. They play to the level of competiton. Gould owes this one to the team.
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I think he see the writing on the wall himself, but hopefully they offer a modest contract to him. The Bears have a nice group of backs that will all want the rock. Competition is a great thing.
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Per PFT, we'll have $60 in cap space next season
ASHKUM BEAR replied to madlithuanian's topic in Bearstalk
Ha, you are correct on spotrac. Porter and McClellin I think will take a little more. I figured ILB's going rate at 4yr 20, CB may take a little more. Porter may be 3 yr 18. -
Per PFT, we'll have $60 in cap space next season
ASHKUM BEAR replied to madlithuanian's topic in Bearstalk
As the cap goes up, so does the contacts. We will have 34 players under contract and I would think to keep any kind of faith between players and the organization, you have to reward the players who's contracts are up that have played well. Jeffery, Porter are two that stand out the most. Looking at Sportrack, them too could easily eat 20+. After taking care of our own first that we feel deserving, I can see 20 left to mingle with. -
Rodgers should look in the mirror and see that he has struggled nearly all year too. Hopefully we see improvements on the ST's as a whole. I do understand that until we get a core of set starters, ST will be a rotation and hard to get consistency.
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Immense talent, but nearly every week is a different group. I think we are one or two Olinemen away and if we have this group all healthy, they can be top 10 on O.