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I wouldn't be surprised if Cook still goes top 15. I doubt Lynch goes pro, but he has drawn praise from draftniks. I am only on the QB bandwagon if they think there is one better than the one we have available.

The thing guys don't realize is you can sign him with upfront money. Year one, over pay some but after that he becomes expendable. Bear fans have always wanted to get rid of there best players smh. I keep hearing about Langford, but I haven't seen him make Forte expendable yet. You have to earn that right and this staff has no ties to Forte to hand it to him. When that happens, lets talk letting him go.

You also have to realize that teams know Forte is our focal point on offense. He is keyed on more so than say Cutler and the scrap heap WRs we have been trotting out each week. We finally have Jeffery back, so he will at least have another weapon teams will have to worry about. No team will be trading away anything higher than a 5th RD pick for him anyway. The best we may see is a 2017 4th rd pick. I would like to see him re-signed with a modest "team" deal and let him fade to a #2 back behind Langford if Langford can become an NFL #1.

I seen an interesting one two combo, which was ND LB J Smith and Duke S Jeremy Cash. Those two both fly around the field and are in almost every play. Cash is an intersting prospect and the LB/S combo would bring back Urlacher/Brown talks. Not sure McClellin would get re-signed w/o seeing if he can play outside... again. If he gets re-signed means he progressed enough in the middle to see another 3-4 years of him.

I am a Golden Domer homer you might see. I do want to see another starter added to the oline. RG makes the most sense since Ducasse has been the weak link imo, I just pick him since he is a name I know. I would be fine with Smith if we a picking in the 7-10 range. If that is the case, options may be slim. It might be the #3 OT, #2 QB etc. But Kearse is a kid i would like to see. Once the mocks expand to 4 or 5 rounds, his name will start to get known.

A late round prospect I would like to see taken rd4 or after is Clemson S Jayron Kearse. He is big, 6-5 215 and would be more of a Nickle rover type DB to start. Give Fangio and Donatell a year to groom him and he can be our Cam Chancellor. Not sure where he gets picked yet since he was one of my sleepers, round 5 would be nice since I think he will need developmental work. But his measurables and family line (Jevon Kearse/Phillip Buchanan S) help. 1-Jaylon Smith LB 2-Cameron Sutton CB 3-Nick Martin G 4-Jayron Kearse S

I see Biggs's point though, IF one of the QBs happens to be a can't miss prospect and BPA then they should still take him even if Jay is playing decent and they have bigger needs on defense. Me personally would prefer to go D because the QBs I see so far are middle first round talent. A lot can change by draft. I just thought it was strange to hear Biggs promote taking a QB.

I also agree. You just do not take a QB because one is available, unless you are pretty sure you are taking a sure thing. With that in mind, if you do take QB then as a franchise you better be committed long term into developing that player. Which may take promoting Adam Gase to Asst Head Coach to try and hold on to him.

Beat writer Brad Biggs thinks different this morning. He said the Bears should not pass up a 1st RD QB in this draft because they may have other needs to fill. Getting the QB position right is how teams become great. Other needs did not keep GB from taking Rodgers when they had Favre. It was an interesting point and understandable, just wanted to share Biggs view from today.

I like Josh Norman, sign me up. Offseason, should we have enough cash re-sign: Jeffery, Jenkins, Acho, McClellin, Forte. Sign: Von Miller/Justin Houston OLB , Josh Norman CB Release/trade: Bushrod and Willie Young (for 2 more 6ths to be modest) Draft 1-Jaylon Smith ILB-Starts right away, with McClellin, Jones or Timu. 2-Carl Nassib DE-rotation guy with Jenkins/Feguson/Sutton. Having a huge yr at PSU. 3-Karl Joeseph S-can compete with Rolle or be groomed 3-Nick Martin G (trade 4th and 6th to move up) starts RG 4-Joe Haeg OT - swing OT(trade 5th and 6th to move up) 6-QB- Jacoby Brisset or Kevin Hogan to develop 6-Ryan Switzer NC WR/KR- returnman 6-Sean Davis DB MD-Great S, moved to CB. Needs some work at CB but a project 7-NT -Another Terry Williams type and I would also get Williams back on the PS soon.

If you can re-sign Forte to Frank Gore dollar range, do so. Langford looks promising, but he must not be doing some things right as of yet to earn more time. I think Fortes ability in the passing game is his biggest asset. If Forte wants more than the 4 million per year, then move on. Make it a 3 year with most money up front, that way year two does not hurt cap wise and year three is simple if they want to move on. If he wants more and gets more money, the higher the compensation pick the Bears get. No reason to part ways with one of your best players if he can be retained fairly.

Great breakdown. It will come down to BPA in the draft I hope and I would also prefer to be limited in FA to one or two major signings, other than our own. The one year deals in FA seem to be be the wisest moves. Your priorities have matched mine, except I have two OL and 1 QB. If we keep all 9 plus draft picks and add 3-4 FA's, we are looking at possibly a 1/4 of the team turn around. With the needs about the same, my take on filling them would work as: RD1- DB/DL/ILB. Bosa, Nkimdiche if we are high enough. Ramsey, Hargreaves, J Smith if we are between 5-10. RD2- DB/DL/LB. Same position targets, fill one we missed RD3- OL/QB get added in. I think we need a QB to groom and a better #2. 1-Jaylon Smith LB, 2-Nate Andrews S, 3-Nick Martin G, RD4- Maurice Canady CB would be ideal. Free Agency, I would like CB a high target and why not Von Miller OLB orWilkerson DL? Possibly trade Young for a pick too. This offseason can put a huge shift to how the Bears are viewed by putting focus on the D and OL.

Dan Bernstein on the score has been throwing a fit over this. When will the local media learn that this new regime does not cater to them. News does not come easily from this regime and I kind of like it that way. Ratliff screwed up big time and the Bears did their best to protect the player and his privacy by withholding this. Hopefully he gets his life together because the NFL is a privilege to be in and make a living from.

I know it is early to talk draft, but building things is an interest of mine. Right now we are on the bye week and sitting at around a top 10 pick. Talkbears is a site I enjoy because it is small and the group that participates has passion and knowledge. I have spent nearly 15 years here it seems give or take. This offseason, we should have the resources to add some great players draft and free agent wise. Which way should a young GM go? This draft we can start the process 5-6 different position ways. 1-QB - Jay Cutler is showing he can be a good enough signal caller. How many years left can he be a guy to count on is my main concern. With a high pick, we can grab a guy to groom and hopefully take the reins. The top 2 QBs in this draft right now are Jared Goff and Conner Cook. Would taking one this year and letting them learn the NFL be the best decision going forward? With that in mind, we sacarfice a player that should be contibuting on the team for possible a season. 2-DT/DE - The Bears are young upfront now with Ratliff released. We still have Goldman, Sutton, Ferguson to look forward to. Washington will be in the mix again too. Would Joey Bosa or Robert Nkimdiche be a wise investment knowing we can add a dominant playmaker upfront? Defense is Bears football and Pace said from his hire that he will get the Bears back to it's roots of Monsters. 3-OT - The offensive engine is the guys on the line. We have seen many horrible years of protection and run blocking, yet have gave the grief to the QB or RB. This draft has two that should be great, Ronnie Stanley or Laremy Tunsil. With Leno emerging at LT, do you upgrade to potential probowl? Offensive line is still a need at RG, which should be addressed in the later rounds as well. 4-CB - Right now, the Bears seem thin in the backfield with patchwork players. Fuller is still learning and Porter/Ball are on prove it deals. Vernon Hargreaves, who has shutdown abilities gets compared to Darrell Revis. Would a shutdown CB be the best choice? It could make Fuller look better getting more match ups against #2's also. 5-LB - Chicago is known for great LB's and Fangio is the best LB coach in the business. Would Jaylon Smith who has drawn Patrick Willis comparisons give us the best shot? Not only is he a playmaker, but a great leader for the unit. Myles Jack will also be available. 6- S/CB - Amos has played above and beyond initial expectations and Rolle will be back in the mix. Would an Ed Reed leader and playmaker in centerfield be our best choice. Jalen Ramsey is a guy that will be a difference maker and can solidify the defensive backfield. There is a lot of potential the Bears can go with to build upon. The question is which direction would be the best to build a solid future on if we had our choice?

Sometimes guys put in the right position at the right time succeed. The Bears have been terrible at putting players at wrong positions previously. Hope he works out and can hold that spot for years. Finding a RG would be the next piece. Unless the 7th rd kid we drafted this year can come in and win the RT and move Long back inside. Regardless an olineman will be needed to groom to replace Slausen eventually.

After last night, Eli will drop back too. Thanks for this. It shows Gase has done something to keep Cutler from making errant throws.

Ball with missed tackle. McManis on one earlier. Need some DBs next season.

I never thought he would miss the entire season. The surgery was done to speed up the healing and now he is conditioning. I think he will start practicing the first of November and be playing before thanksgiving. We need help from the injury gods to help this team out though.

Harsh fans, no more AJ love. He has to be faking it, we better burn him at the stake just in case.

Glad he rebounded, that sack fumble for a td was up the middle. The whole oline gets props.

I am not sure I would like Cook either. He is not even a team captain, which was voted on by teammates. I want a first round difference maker whichever posistion they decide on, QB, CB, S, ILB, DT, or OT. I have my guys and my top 10 go:Goff, Stanley, Nkimdiche, Bosa, Hargreaves, Tunsil, Ramsey, Jaylen Smith LB, M Jack LB, and S Wright LB.

And you were correct....John Timu signs back to the practice squad.

Grasu was missing the strength and knowledge from what I understood. They wanted him to put on 20 pounds and learn the nuisances. He also showed the lack of strength early on.

2 moves I don't like, but with injuries accumulating it understandable. They need WR, offensive lineman and S help up to speed.

Seeing this D ascend and they a getting a personality under McPhee and seeing Jay doing well also, we may play out of the top 10 draft pick. If they do, any thoughts of going ILB with the pick like Jaylon Smith? Still way to early to speculate, but always fun to run look at prospects.