Stinger226

Sorry man, I knew you really wanted a OL with the first pick(hey hey the witch is dead)

Two in the first 100 picks, give us a WR, and Fs(sorry NFO) and I will be smiling all the way to training camp.

Anybody being negative today needs to stick a gun in there mouth. I havent been this excited since Hester run the opening KO back for a touchdown.(I was later disappointed)I was in Mexico that year and won 500.00 on one play.

I think in a bidding war with deep pockets skins, it might take a 1 and 3 this year and a 1 next year, and may have to throw in a guy(Harrison)DT. How far would you go?

I think if JA believes he will be good, take him at 28 because we dont have the 25th pick where he might be slated.

I will take TB, but the cowboys can blow me, what ever it takes to get the party started

I actually have a lot of respect for your opinion, my fear is Williams is shitty or get hurts again, then were rearranging the OL to accompidate the problem, but agree you need to play people to find out if they can play. I guess I am a little worried Williams could be a problem. Im gun shy.

I am trying to figure out what JA might be thinking, not necessarily what I would do. I personally would like to draft a big guy we could slam in at the goal line, like Jenning/Liberty. 235lbs. The only way the Giants are moving up is if a WR drops to us that they dont think will be there with there pick.

I dont really care if he developes, I want the best player out there, and if he aint good enough or needs more time so be it. Your stuck on this draft a OT high and play him so he can develope. I agree that is the best senario, but Colombo was a high draft pick, that didnt work in that case. I just want the team to be better, and we still dont know if Williams can play? You want Williams to play and if he's bad, just part of the process? Screw that. None of us know if Pace is still any good or if Williams will be good. Lets at least have options, if something doesnt work out.

If you could get him for little of nothing, it would be ok, but he hasnt proven anything since he has been in the league. Would be better off with Orton being the fact he wouldnt have to learn a new system and will this year show if he has it or not. If we got Cambpell, you would have to give him two years being he has to learn a new system. He had a better RB, and better receivers in Wash, and didnt shine.

If we try to get him and fail because we didnt have the right people to offer, so be it, but at least be in the mix and the effort will give me some hope.

Sign Pace and let the best man win, with the uncertainy of Williams and Paces injury history, they both will end up playing. Pace can teach Williams some stuff. Let Shaffer play RT, Omilyale LG and Buening or a draftee than can play OG, and OT fight for the RG spot and build from there.

I think the more bodies the better chance we have at being a better football team.

Let me say he will be in Detroit! If I was the onwner, I would send him to the worst situtation as possible. He screwed me and I get to screw him. Higher draft picks, although the first pick has its down side.

Ill take SD and Titans if you need more teams filled.

Everybody can stop figuring it out, I just did. If you were Denver your going to get good valve from probably everybody, so I would trade him to the worst team I got the offer from, Detroit.

I am afraid to get it done, it might be 2 #1s, and maybe Briggs, and Orton.

So what do you guys think it will take? I think offering 2 #1s, this year and next and Orton, may not be enough. Detroit can give them there #1 and whatever, so that have there qb of the future, there wont be one there at our pick.

I see your point and agree with the numbers for hits, makes alot of sense.

I like the second draft better, but why would the Giants move up? I think the only ones moving up would be for a QB, or RB, maybe Macklin if he falls, otherwise I dont see the Giants having the need to move up . I also dont see us talking a RB before 5, with the resigning of Jones and Wolfe expected to get more carries.

I agree this move wont make us younger, but the last two OTs we drafted high didnt play there first year, and we dont even know if Williams is any good. Its all about having a better team, and I frankly dont care how they do it. Drafting hasnt been there strong suit lately, and as long as we draft one by the 3rd round to develope , I will be happy. I too dont want anymore 7th round OLs.

If we get Culter,. why draft Harrell? Kelly and Robiskie are similar type of Wrs, I would think they would add a speed guy later like a Knox/AB-4.34 speed. I would say with Shaffer and Williams playing guard, you already on backups in Beekman, Bueninng, Garza. Which means they draft a developmental OT for the future with Pace, and Schaffer not being youngsters.

If they sign him, I would say it puts Vasher on notice, or maybe they move Tilliman to FS?

There is talk he will now play RT to prolong playing time. He competes for the RT job and the best man wins. We have Schaffer as our swing tackle and draft a developmental RT to play in 2 years. He left the Ravens without a contract and the only other player for him is us. He takes what he can get at this point with an incentive laden contract.

Do you need more people or do you have enough to get started? At least draw the Bear spot so everybody waiting for that can pick a team