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Bradbury didn't have a penalty or give up a sack last year. To many people gage players by PFF ratings. By next year, no one will notice Dalman was gone.

I watch a lot of podcasts, bears related, and it bugs me with all these pundits that think they're experts on draft prospects. How much actual time do they put in evaluating prospects? I think they read a lot of other people's information and then they watch 4 or 5 games? Hundreds of prospects they can't have the time to do that. People like Dane Brugler actually has a network and puts in the time so I trust his opinion more. I don't agree with everything and he's not always accurate but has more input to make better evaluations. I'll watch 2 or 3 games and highlights films but no way I think I'm smarter than the people that put in the time. Also a lot of people use PFF for much of their view. PFF has some input but you just can't use that for perspective. It's funny to me that Dane rates a player at 49 and then some pundits think they are 25 valued. Some may very well put in the time but it's hard to figure out who is guessing and who actually does it. I keep everyone's opinions at bay but trust a few over most other people. I think the bears are more in on some of their own players than most of the fandom. Example, they will count on Turner much more than fans that write him off because he was injured. So when I evaluate I figure what they have and who they might pick.

This rumor is false, we did not contact the Giants. It was started by a Packers fan trolling the fandom. Lots brought in to it.

Never thought of watching last year draft. Good idea. I think unless a top 20 player drops, we trade back for that extra top 100 pick. Basically 20 to 75 are all in the same talent scope. Now some will emerge and some won't pan out. Poles could draft a player at 57 that could be top 40 value, stuff like that. It's about identifying talent and by last year results is looking like they know what their doing. Do not count out Turner, Hyppolite, or Frazier. I think Newman has already shown some talent to maybe be a starter when our IOL move on. Also players like Dushon Wright, Demarco Jackson, Walker, Theo, McFadden all contributed with no expectations.

Many people think his is the most prolific draft guide. He's not 100% perfect but he gives you lots of information that gives you a good look at prospects. I looked at his top 100 and unless players like Theinaman, Faulk drop we will probably stay at 25 but I totally think when we didn't get the comp pick, we will be trading back. Lots of good players of need in the second round range. I think S, DE, CB and DT are in play. Drop back and Young, Lawrence, and Jacas are in play. After the first 2 Ss, Stukes, Bud Clark and Kilgore are in play late in that round. I think DT will be scheme fit over NT types . Those are in third round territory. Halton, Kaleb Proctor, Zane Durant and Rene Konga

Agree with most your takes. I read Danes profile on Proctor and he is not a instant day one starter. Being drafted that high will make him one but has raw traits and will take a year to develop his skills.If he has to be developed, I don't see us taking as a short term player, although long term he could have pro bowl upside. People talk about BPA but when teams do their big board, needs are taken in to account. Let's say a #4 WR is there and. #5 DE, I think they would choose a need.

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How will this defense look if every position has speed injected? I looked up Sweat and didn't realize he ran a 4.42 40. Gervon Dexter ran a 4.88 40. Grady Jarrett 5.06 40 Austin Booker 4.79 40 We already have some speed on the line and Jarrett will be gone after this year. Very interested to see DA run his defense.

That makes sense. Or just drop rule all together. They should be forced to honor the policy or change it.

The new name some bears fans want is Dexter Lawrence.. He had 1/2 sack last year. The next two years he will get 54 mil at 29 and the reason he wants to be traded is he wants more money. He is a better player than any DT we have but at 6'4" and 330. Ran a 5 05 40. Not sure that fits the new speed scheme.

I have seen some pundits say he will play S in the pros? I think he is too small for that. What say you

So far: Jager Burton/ center Kayden McDonald/ NT Zion Young/ edge De'Zfaun Stribling/WR Jimmy Rolder/ LB Seth McGowan/RB Antererio Washington/DT Max Iheanachor/RT Brian Parker/OL/C Dan Villari/TE James Brockermeyer/center Jimmy Rolder/LB This is all I can find so far. Anyone know of anyone else? It has been reported that they only bring in players that they have questions about. Then decide if they don't or do want them. It has been reported that every pick we took last year came in for a visit. Also they are not required to report all visits and tell some agents not to talk about it. Local school and Chicago people get to come in that don't get applied to the 30 visit list unless they want to. I don't think any 30 visit is a smoke screen action. I think they may like or dislike a player and we don't know the answer. So far 3 centers and 3 DL if that may disclose positions of interest.

I still think they're a good old boys network of owners that participate in the league but the new ones control it. This decision is very bad but it's more of the league having a power trip than being against the bears. The referee situation is bad and discriminates against bad teams and in favor good times. Bears are consistently bad so it takes hits. I love conspiracies but this isn't going on in the NFL.

I saw that post too. All of Poles first round picks have been 22 and younger except one at 23. Messidor is probably the best pure pass rusher that could be there late round but he will be 27 next Jan in his first year. I just don't see it. I just don't think he is drafting anyone that will be 25 or older his year. Parker, Young, Jacas and Lawrence fit most of the scheme traits but all seem more like 2 nd round picks to me. Although Parker and Young may go first round. The DT class doesn't really have any high prospects that have high pass rush ability. McDonald and Woods may be good players be to me not first round worthy with limited pass rush skills. Because we didn't get the comp pick, I definitely think we drop out of 25. The second round seems like the sweet spot to take an Edge rusher or run support DT. I think we end up getting 3 picks in the second round. I don't see us taking any older players or pass rush specialist there either. One prospect if drops to 25 I think we consider is Faulk. 20 years old, great size and speed but didn't have a good senior year. People say coaching changes affected that. Malachi Lawrence keeps dropping and could be first round. Great speed and got better every year. Note that Jacas workout he ran a 4.69.

Caleb was the only pick everyone actual knew we were going to pick. Otherwise Poles is full of surprises. For what I understand DA likes is versatile players he can move in an out. Ss that can play up and back. Speed at LB to cover side to side. He likes length, speed and aggressive play. I think Bryant and Bush are those types. Gallimore is that type. Turner fits his mold. I think he had input in bringing in Dayo, Tall DE with long arms that can play in or out. I think when looking at prospects, we find those traits first at those positions. At DE Faulk, Parker, Jacas just ran a 4 .69 40 in a workout. Zion Young? Dennis -Sutton is that type. At DT Woods fits but have heard he has put on 35 lbs since he finished playing games. Don't know if true or what that means. The NTs doesn't fit his type IMO. Gracen Halton, Zane Durant and Kaleb Proctor does. At S it's Theinaman, Bud Clark, VJ Payne and Robert Spears -Jennings. If a mixed review on whether McNeil - Warren is that type. He lacks the long speed but players can make up for that with awareness and short area quickness. A few pundits have compared him to Brisker and we didn't retain him. I'm not sure on McN- Warren. A prospect that interests me is Treydan Stukes can play CB or both S spots. He has moved up draft boards probably is the second round now.

The rule is ( to get promoted) and that happened. Now they add to the description ( top football guy). It hurts no other team, just extra picks for promoting a minority canadate. It insane they are taking this stance. The bears should sue them over this. It will force them to give us the picks or dump the policy. The NFL brass won't like that but it's not like they are doing us any favors now.

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Looked this guy up, a 10.00 on the RAS score. Run a 4.66 at 306 lbs. 39" vertical. 10'10" BJ . That's insane. AND 35.75 inch arms It sounds like a Poles third round pick.

Wow, I didn't know you were into draft porn. Obscure video of someone no one has ever heard of. I would like if more of these type prospects actually hit it big once. I know the Eagles drafted a huge rugby player several years ago as a late round pick that is starting at LT for them so it happens. Jordan Mailata

I think they are just checking out options which says they are planning a DT somewhere in the early draft. I don't think we can read anything extra in it but is a maybe.

Didn't know where to stick this but PFF has been purchased and people are getting laid off. I don't know if how it changes but something is happening. There's always a place for stats but to much credit was given to a flawed system. Cris Collingworth was the original owner.

Stevenson with all his talent still has to prove himself. As far as players like Zak and Hyppolite can still develop into contributing assets. I think to quickly a lot of people blow off players that don't show instant success. We have coaches now that can develop players. Some take longer. Dushon Wright is like that and was a complete surprise. I think we do draft both S and CB in the draft. I am curious to see what a faster team looks like for DAs scheme.

I must have put my email on there site but everyday NFL Mock Draft Database sends me any published mocks. 18 today. Four have us taking Messidor . He's a beast but I don't think we are going to draft a 26 year old rookie that has an injury history. 3 has us taking Theinaman. I don't think he makes it to us but would like that pick. It's not that I think any of these sites have a clue where they will go after pick 15 but it's a point for discussion.

What a great day today. I can now have proper discussions with members.

Go to your profile Go to heading,(ignored users) And put my username in it This was suggested months ago to both of us and I did it for one month. You never did it. Now finally we will eliminate the problem with the only person on here that always goes to name calling until they piss other members off. When I did it, when someone quotes you, the message will show to user not directly. I saw the football God of watching tape still bringing my name up. To do this properly when answering a post just don't quote it and do a normal response. It will save future name calling. I'm doing it right now but make sure the other member that has quit this site twice and been suspended does it. It's sad when adults have to do this but it happened.