ASHKUM BEAR

Packers are in desperation mode. They never signed fa before like this. There recent drafting must have been bad for them to start signing fa's.

I don't think they dislike the QBs in this class, just not going to over draft one. Even a top 5 candidate would take time to adjust and not be ready the first portion of the season. Shaw is coming off a broken leg and may not be ready also. Sanchez is insurance/depth and if the rookie catches on right away then he is cut. They will take one between rounds 2-4 imo, we may get lucky and have Kizer, Watson, or Mahomes.

Unfortunately this isn't the year. If they are lucky, one of the top 3 is available with the 2nd RD pick but doubtful.

They have a lot of mediocre or worse, but many are still young were they haven't had enough time in the league to really evaluate. They are missing a ball hawk S and shut down CB IMO, which leaves Hooker or Lattimore as possibilities RD1 and they both have health questions. Would 2nd round FS prospects Budda Baker or Marcus Williams be a better gamble. I like Williams, has a little more height. Sidney Jones would be my shut down CB choice, he says he will be able to play this season but I would still redshirt him. 1. Allen 3T/5T or Thomas OLB/5T - could make a case for either 2. Watson/Kizer QB or Marcus Williams/Baker FS - if one of the QBs there have to take. Otherwise FS 3-Sidney Jones CB-many would hate drafting him, but could be franchise shutdown CB for years. We have many 1 yr stop gaps 4-Jordan Leggett TE-Butt, Hodges, or Sprinkle considered-great class and need a long term solution 4-Eddie Jakson FS or Peterman QB -depends on round 2 5-Ryan Switzer WR-future slot and KR or Holliday WR 7-Zane Gonzalez K-because finding a gem at a position this late is tough. Missing out on that OT, but can sign another stoo gap and shoot for 2018 class.

With FA signings, I can see them avoid CB unless they really feel good about a prospect. I think there is room for a Safety, which there are rumors DeAndre' Hall may make the move. Cornerbacks- Normally about 6 make a roster. Tracy Porter - lock Marcus Cooper - lock Prince Amukamara - lock Cre'Von LeBlanc - lock Kyle Fuller Bryce Callahan -lock Deiondre' Hall - lock Jon Banks Sherrick McManis Safety - Normally 4 make a roster Quentin Demps - lock Adrian Amos - lock Harold Jones-Quartey Deon Bush - lock DeAndre Houston-Carson Chris Prosinski

http://walterfootball.com/draft2017charlie.php 1-Jonathan Allen DE- The 5T can really tip the scale for making Chicagos front 7 elite 2-Deshaun Watson QB- they feel he is still over drafted here, but it would be a steal in my book 3-Zay Jones WR- With the loss of AJ and unknown of White, I can see this pick. Would be ok 4-Jeremy Sprinkle TE-Early on I was big on Sprinkle as all around TE 4-Brenden Langley CB-Dont know much on him but seems like a good prospect. I didn't catch were Jordan Leggett went, but could pair him up with Watson if he is available. Would also consider OLB or S round 3 if a stud is still there.

That could work, like you I think a 5T holds more value but a stud S can lock down the backfield for years also. The #3 pick is a pain

If that is the case, I hope they have a plan in place to be in the running for a QB next year. Hard to hang a hat on having long term success with Glennon and Shaw.

If they do sign him, cross QB off the first 3 rounds. They can bring in a late round prospect to compete with Shaw.

Round 1- I think they should have it down to Allen, Thomas, or Watson at #3. Allen has the arthritis, reminds me of Tommie Harris in a way, but he could be our good Suh. Thomas could be Lamarr Houston 2. Houston was 273 and beefed up to 300 before dropping down to 285. He also can become Justin Smith. Watson could be RG3, being limited or Russell Wilson. I avoided the DBs because the house is full of young unprovens and the draft is deep. Round 2 - Kizer, Mahomes at QB, Baker, Obi Melinfonwu S, Conley, Wilson, A Jackson CB. A OT, TE, DT, OLB might slip and be our choice too. A lot depends on if Ricky Jean Francsis gets signed, that happens and I see QB as our pick and S round 2.

If Bears sign a 5T, I do not see it far fetched. The guy is a beast and can be considered BPA. ILB is also somewhat a need since Trevathan can possibly miss half the season and Freemans age/contract shows he won't be around after his contract expires after this season. It is a dark horse pick, but Chicago likes its great LB tradition and he can carry on the legacy.

Thomas does play at a high motor. It is possible they go that route, but I still think they sign another DT like Ricky Jean Francis and go QB/CB/S with the 1st. Bullard will also be in the mix more, being a 3rd round pick they will eventually look for him to start.

Greg Gabriel thinks different. He does not think he can play 5T. He played at 260 last season and should be about 290. He gained weight for the combine but still measured at 273. At OLB, he would be a pass rush only as he has never played much in coverage and would need to learn there. He basically said Thomas can be a great pro more so in a 4-3, but not a good fit for the Bears. At pick #3, the Bears would take him for OLB, but he would be over drafted since he is a tweener and would need work in coverages.

I'd be ok with that. I hear rumblings of Trubisky or Watson though. Pace has a two year crush on Watson and really likes Trubisky this year. I can see him going elsewhere now with Glennon too. I see them set up now to go QB Watson/Trubisky, CB Lattimore, S Adams/Hooker, or OLB Thomas/Reddick with #1. edit: I have been mixed up on John Jenkins and John Hankins, smh. Hankins would have eliminated a 5T need, Jenkins is depth at NT like others have said. Might still want Allen who can play that, unless they can still sign Hankins.

I have had him on fantasy the past 3-4 year. Nooo, he is only healthy and productive when I do not have him.

I am a no also. We are young and do not need a guy at the end of his career at the RB position. Draft a late rounder if a stud is out there.

Bears sign John Jenkins DT, possibly a Goldman move and draft can go to QB/S/CB.

I felt that with Hawkins in today. He signs and Goldman moves to 5T. Poe signed with Atl I believe.

I think it is in the plans. Maybe not down as far, but enough to get them an extra 2nd and 3rd. They can go many directions in prospects, just need someone to fall for an Allen or possibly Thomas to do it. Whether they take QB or not rd1, I think they want ammo to trade back up to get one like Watson.

That is why I would go for these risky guys. Does anyone think we are in playoff contention this season? I think we are closer to a top 10 pick in 2018. At CB, we have a squad of young players and will have to cut a few as it is. At TE, we have enough to fill a roster with Sims, Miller, Brown, and Braunicker. If the Bears feel Jones or Butt can rehab and contribute big in 18 then picking one if available in the 4th if good.

Rookie stats, added thoughts: comp att % yds tds ints rating Player1: 247 416 59.4% 2608 19 9 83.9 Player2: 339 627 54.1% 4374 23 18 76.5 One was drafted as a sure thing and is considered "elite" the other was drafted RD3 as a project. Both played most games their rookie season. Player two is Andrew Luck, it took him a couple years to settle in and to produce at elite levels. Glennon, was in a better balanced offense but poorly talented team and put up solid numbers. For some reason, they pulled the plug on letting him grow and eventually took Winston, they should have stuck with Glennon and drafted Amari Cooper or Leonard Williams.

Now Alaska sees the light

Sage Rosenthals breaks down Osweiler and Glennon signings and says the Bears invested wisely. http://www.thescore.com/news/1254088

I don't think I would spend a 3rd RD pick but that 4th would be tempting. I think they can survive letting an 4th rd redshirt for a potential shut down CB. 4th rounders Bush and Houston-Carson sat most of the year and we are already talking about drafting replacements over them.

There has to be a fine line, but taking a risk on Sidney Jones, who was projected mid 1st, would be worth it if you get him with your early 4th IMO. Dallas on the other hand risked on a large scale with ND LB Jaylon Smith last year with their 2nd RD pick. Smith was projected as high as the #1 over all before his injury. If he is healthy this year and plays at the level projected, they made a bold wise risk but losing that 2nd in 16' was costly.