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I think that is what Poles is doing. He valued McG at a certain value ,over paying for a very average RT is not good long term for a franchise. Its hard for me to be highly critical 2 months into his second season on the job. Tell me what you would had did different is first year?

Overall I agree with you, best players should be playing. Both of those projected players we would be lucky to get, and are better than Jones, maybe. I think the Jones pick is the signature move Poles will be looked back on the beginning of him being a good GM. I think he lets the Jones experiment go one more year then will do what's right to correct it if he needs to. What ever OT he brings in will play RT this year and then move to LT next if needed. I think people let their ego get in the way sometimes but Jones was a successful move so far. It still has a year to prove itself. If I remember he was ranked the 19th best OT this year by PFF. Not bad for a 5th round pick. He has a Long way to go but the arrow is pointing up.

Actually they did try to fix the OL right out from the start. This new regime isn't responsible for the wasted first year under Pace. Poles offered more money to both Brian Allen and the Rams LT ( can't remember his name) they both stayed with the SB champs.. Then they tried to get Ryan Bates and that failed. To say they didn't do enough is correct but they did try. They brought in new WRs but none of them were successful. My point is they tried to help the offense in his first year, but it didn't work out. Poles came in having to evaluate what was already here , Fields also. Jenkins, Borom, there wasn't A lot of high level starters already in place. In the draft he took BPA and is going to use that theory going forward. Good GMs do that. No way he thought we could be successful in one year. He is roster building with 3 years in mind.

My point was I don't think Poles is doing that, I would love to get PJJ and Mauch in this draft. Not draft 3 OL in your first 4 picks. If you're a GM and you got a 5th round pick that played way above expectations, he ain't throwing that move away in his second year. He may not be the LT but he's starting one of those spots. Say that happens, he would try Mauch at center spot in that scenario. None of these OTs this year are considered blue chip pro Bowl types anyway. Maybe above average 10 year starters which would still be great draft picks. Skronoski is a considered a blue chip prospect but not as a OT.

I don't see any way we draft OL with 3 out of our first 4 picks. Cody Mauch can play OC. We have two above average OGs now and Braxton Jones is one of our tackles. An OT, Edge, DT, maybe CB, maybe RB, maybe another DL. I think pick 103 will land us a OC. Stromberg, O O, are in that range.

Bijan Robinson could be in play there for someone needing a RB.

Late first round?

I would say that 2 visits means they are thinking about it and want to get more info to solidify that decision. If he had a bad attitude or bad work ethics they wouldn't bother with another visit.

How many and who are your sure things in this draft? ( be potential pro Bowl type players) not QBs Anderson--Carter-- Skoronski--Robinson--Weatherspoon Tier 1 Murphy--Wilson--Gonzalez--JSN Tier 2. ( very close but ?) If Poles goes BPA , Is he going to pick JSN, Nick Weatherspoon or Bijan Robinson? I don't think Skoronski will play OT in the NFL I'm totally against Robinson or JSN because we have added assets in those positions groups but they may be BPA at 9. Poles stated he will not get all positions upgraded his year so does he go true BPA at 9. Foreman is on a one year deal, and Claypool may be gone after this year. Weatherspoon will put us in the position to not have to sign JJ to a big contract. You could make the case for Skoronski and play him at OT for this year or they move Jenkins to RT. The more I read the more I think 9 may not be in the trenches.

Georgia draft? Jalen Carter Broderick Jones Nolan Smith Darnell Washington Kelee Ringo Christopher Smith Kenny McIntosh Warren McClendon Not sure which draft would be better off.

I'm sure that's agent talk. If Poles is taking 2 interviews , there must be some thought to want to pick him. I trust them to make the right decision. Hard work and loving football are important. If they don't see that, they won't draft him.

Didn't know that, clearly would matter if taken in the top. 10. Jalen Carter is making a second visit to the bears. If he's available, they will take him. Getting the top rated player in the draft at 9 is huge . Of course there's risk but I trust Poles to make the right call.

One of the bears scouts at the combine was interviewed by a reporter and said the Bears liked 2 OCs better than Schmitz. Not sure who but Avila, Stromberg, Wypler and Tillman all got attention from the bears.

Poles takes shots with these type of players Harry, Leatherwood hoping one will hit but rarely do they. They are usually cheap additions with good traits but I doubt if counts on them to make major contributions. I would say if one hits of that group , Piles would be happy. Akim Hicks was that type of find that happens once in awhile.

The way I see it is Eisien and Carter are the backup OGs, which means Patrick could be odd man out. Especially if he drafts a center.

Its a mystery to know what existing players can contribute and how that effects who we draft. Biggest question for me is at OC. They have Whitehair , Patrick and Doug Kramer. How much does Poles value Kramer as a future starter. And where would we draft a center?

If we picked up Ngakoue, that would fit perfectly. I forgot Gipson was good against the run.

Unless they get a high round pick RB that would start on the team( Robinson, Gibbs), what do they need to add as a compliment back? Speed? Power? I think a Duece Vaughn would e a perfect change of pace back. Devon Archane and Kevin Mitchell would also give you the speed. Foreman is going to be the power back, with every down potential. Herbert is the one cut and go guy with decent speed, 4.46. Homer is strictly a role player on passing downs. Duece Vaughn would fit in perfect and could give you lots of reps if someone got hurt. If you want a speed guy Devin Achane is local man. 4.32 speed. Good tape to.

Gipson, Robinson and Jones are not lead guys, they had to be last year but will look better in rotational roles. If Jones is a backup to Billings at the 1 tech, he will be fine. Not that good at 3 T. Robinson has the most upside, hope his second year is a big step forward. Gipson needs to show more or he could be cut .

I personally would rather see Joe Tippmann instead of Wypler. We have a young center on the roster similar to Wypler. Doug Kramer, same size both were second team big 10 behind JSM. Tippman is bigger can also play OG, Wypler is strictly a OC.

I have always dismissed Nolan Smith because he clearly is an outside edge LB. Don't think he fits our scheme. Am I wrong about that? I always saw Murphy as one of the Prime DL, he seems to be ranked in the teens now. Did I miss something? Injuries? Bad interviews?

Other than QB, Poles says there are 7 blue chip players . If we move back from 9 , who could fall we could still get? Carter and Anderson will be gone. That leaves 5. Wilson, Gonzalez, Witherspoon, B. Robinson, Skoronski ? Using Dane Blugers top 100, Van Ness and Paris Johnson are next? Is Paris Johnson the pick? Or a trade back, and Broderick Jones? He's ranked 15 th. Van Ness and Nolan Smith are the edge players on his list on the DL. Levis and Richardson are ranked 13 th and 14 th but will go ahead which causes someone to drop. Doubt we take B Robinson, but maybe a CB as best player available. Im calling Paris Johnson or Van Ness.

Thai people are very kind, you want fresh fish and they go out their way to help you out. It's over 90 here every day in April, so they dress accordingly. No other place like it in the world. Now you know why I post so much these days, not much to do .

Van Ness is not ready for Prime time yet but I think he could end up being a beast if they play him inside. I wish it was draft time now. I hate the wait. Bored in Thailand.

You can backup any argument you want with selected tape. I will have to say Edmunds is going to be very good in this defense. If we got no one else to play in the DB backfield, we are going to be a better pass defense with two new LBers that do that well. We got killed on some of those routs that will now be challenged. If we can get two above average draft picks in the DL, this defense will be much better. I got a feeling our first pick will be OL so we will have to have some luck to get two plus DL. I hope he does.