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I accept that can happen, what's funny is you completely dismiss he could stay. I will leave this site if he gets traded before free agency. You can't say that because you already left and popped up one day later, I hold true to things I say.

You speak in absolutes, Justin is terrible. I get blowing off anyone's opinion in here, we're just fans but many football people doesn't agree with you. You keep dismissing anyone that disagrees with you. I value Dave Wannsted 's opinion over you. I value DJ Moore's opinion over yours. I can list 20 people that I trust more than your opinion but that's a mute task because you think you've smarter than them. You have every right to have your opinion but so does everyone else.

I heard it on the SCORE and have now seen on X. It's about the medicals, not a 20 minute meeting at the Combine. To complete their pre draft process they need the medicals. Caleb blow off the Combine and now has turned down the immediate meeting right after the combine. I think their buying into Caleb and that's why they want to finish their process but he delayed that for 2 weeks. They are not trading Fields before they know who their drafting, clearly this screws up their plans. That's a red flag to not want to visit the most likely team that drafts you after blowing off the medicals at the Combine. He is only player to ever not do the medicals at the Combine. Is he hiding something? No one knows because he's not playing ball with the information process. It's a red flag

One of the reasons Caleb bailed from the Bowl game was because he had a hamstring injury. Also he had a hand injury during the season but played thru it. No GM is not going to consider medicals when planning their draft strategy. You gamble on players in the third round and above, not with the first pick in the draft. We're talking about what Poles is going to do, he's to smart to gamble with the first pick in the draft. He may end up drafting Williams but he is not trading Fields before he has that information. Right now everything in NFL circles is assumptions. Caleb is generational, Bears are automatically taking Caleb. Fields has no market. Their will be no market on Fields until the draft. 9 teams could upgrade their QB position in this draft. There are 6 draftable QBs that could be future starters. According to experts. There are few options in Free agency, Cousins and Mayfield come to mind. The teams are just now making their plans after the combine. Fields is not anybody's first option if they can still draft a QB of which won't be clear until after free agency . Wilson is now part of the options so until him, Cousins and Mayfield are signed the starter questions are up in he air. That brings it down to 6 teams still needing QBs, until they figure out they can't get their guy in the draft, then they will attempt to get Justin. It will be on draft day if he gets traded at all.

Breers is clearly wrong, that's not a rumor . Most news you here now are opinions. Poles lets no information out, we have two years of proof of that fact. Any GM that plans on basing its off-season choices with incomplete information, will not be a GM very long. Poles already got burned with signing Larry O and then he flunked the physical, that changed his whole plan his first year. Poles was all in on Caleb and that's why they scheduled the visit right away to finish the process. Caleb blowing it off matters with trading Fields but may not affect drafting him. I guarantee Poles is pissed about this. Caleb is the only player to ever blow off the Combine medicals . That's not a feather in his cap.

It was Caleb that blew off the physical. That's not a rumor. The Bears requested the interview immediately so they could finish the important part of the pre draft process, the medicals. That's the whole reason the Combine was started. Anyone that thinks the medicals doesn't matter will never get an NFL job. You are not basing your whole off-season plans on a player you don't have all the information on. To risky for that high of a pick. Now they will get the info before the draft but not having it now affects trading Fields . Poles still thinks Justin is one of his options. We have no idea which way he's going to go yet and the fact Caleb's process is incomplete changes what he does now.

Yes it hurts the trade market.

Listening to the SCORE this morning and he blew the visit off . It's now supposed to be until the end of March. Free agency will be almost over by then. Not being able to trade Justin this week going to change the story line. Look for the first pick traded this week. The top rated CB going into the Combine did the physical and they found a Johnson fracture in his leg. I have no idea what that is but it will affect his draft position.

There is a problem blowing in the wind right now. With Caleb not doing the medicals at the Combine, the Bears tried to schedule his visit on Tuesday and he blew them off . It won't happen for a few weeks. No way Poles is trading Justin without doing the physical on Williams. Poles ain't going to bank that his medical is okay with that number one pick so it will screw up the time line. A bad decision on Caleb's part. Bad JuJu.

He is absolutely in play. Odds of getting JPJ are slim . We may have a shot at Zach Frasier in the second round but if we bring in a quality center we will get one later in the draft. Why Tanor is interesting is he literally has played every position on TBE OL. That's a huge value.

If he passes all the character tests by Poles, he will be drafted by Poles.

I never go with one post but was looking at Giants X and seen it posted by two sources. Trying to be the first to post news so I posted it and went back to find more verification. Tried to drop the post but the software wouldn't let me delete it.

Not true , they got me.

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There is a big difference of thinking Justin is great or he can get better plus add numerous blue chip players. I trust Poles to make the right choice. Williams might end up being great , Poles knows the answer to that. Many are Justin fans on here and still know that Williams may be the better choice, it's okay to not be absolute with our opinions .

I guess not everyone has bought unto the draft Williams narrative.

It's foolish to dismiss all of the options that Poles has. Most likely we draft a QB and trade Justin Most unlikely we draft a QB and keep Justin Still probably trade picks , get a haul and keep Justin. Everyone wants to argue Justin to Williams but a bevy of draft picks is the key.

If we go by his first 2 years of the off-season, he will sign one expensive contract. That may very well be JJ but I think JJ gets tagged. Lots of Ss, WRs and fortunately centers. A couple middling signing. Last year. Edmunds was the big contract Last year. Edwards, Davis, Nagakoue were midrange Lesser contracts. Travis Homer, Demarcus Walker, Foreman, Tonyan, Billings . He will have a similar off season.

With the Free agency period starting next week, the first thing that will be a sign of what's coming is Justin won't be traded. The predictions that we're drafting Caleb will take a hit when their prediction( Justin gets traded right away). I think it is more likely the first pick gets traded . That will be stroking the fires of social media.

As you point out, it's not his football skills that will doom him, it's his excessive ego that presents the image he wants to be treated special. Character issues are important to Poles. Waldron has been up close and personal wit him at that football school, he would have input into how coachable he is. Poles passes on the best player in the draft last year because of that. He will throw a hissy fit if not drafted #1.

I seen a PFF end of the year rankings for center and Connor Williams was the top FA center available, (37 overall) Andre James (44), Cusenberry (57), Aaron Brewer (77), Tyler Biadasz (93). Looking at their run and pass block grades, Cusenberry is the highest rated , he got knocked down because of penalties. Brewer could be the one because his OL coach is here but he gave up a lot of sacks.

Odds are Justin will get traded. He has a long way to go to be a tier one QB, but you could win with him. He has some special in his game. Time moves on but one day Justin will get to a SB.

Justin doesn't look any differently throwing the ball than Williams does. Small sample size. He can throw short quick passes or a longer throwing motion, it depends on the route their running. To watch the video you just click on Watch on YouTube.

I don't think it's set in stone he's going to draft Caleb at number one as the total football world thinks he is. If he does a historic trade down or downs and brings in 5 or 6 blue chip players, he will go to the GM Hall of Fame in his 3 rd year. That is still in play. If he likes another QB and takes a few trades, he would ignite the football frenzy that we already have. Another thing to consider is no one is offering a 1 st, or even a second round for Justin, he's not taking 3 rd picks for Justin. He will do something to surprise us.