CrackerDog

Not entirely what I said but let's just go with this. What will happen if we have a game manager? Certain element of the board will start claiming the offense is too predictable. It's boring. Why can't our GM find talented WR's? Certain folks will grow more envious of teams with great QB's. Why are the Bears always stuck in the past? Look at what Team X is doing! Our GM sucks! Look, I honestly don't see what all the drama is about? We're all on the same page that Cutler is overpaid given his production. The boys who gave him that deal are gone. New management, who looks like they've got their shit together, has assembled what looks like one of the best coaching staffs in the entire NFL and THEY are working to put the best product on the field they can. If THEY decide that for now, giving Jay another shot is the right thing to do, so be it. I realize everyone here is a football genius and could've guided the Bears to multiple Super Bowls in the last 20 years if only given the chance... But seeing as you aren't in charge, maybe we should see what the new staff can do before we condemn them.

Interesting you cut off the rest of my post where I kept an open mind. Yes, I'm convinced that given what we know about QB's available right now and those in the draft, we're going to take a big step backwards in 2015 at QB. That doesn't mean trading Jay isn't the right thing to do, regardless, for the long haul. Bring in a kid to throw to the wolves? Not better than Jay. One of these stiffs available in FA? Not better than Jay. We could just turn into the 1977 Bears and run the ball all three downs with Bob Avellini throwing it 5 - 10 times a game. Hell if I know. But that wouldn't be better than Jay at QB. And it would be boring as shit. But if they unload him, as I said, nobody is going to cry over Jay. And the negative nancies here will just hate on the next guy and the guy after that. Assuming we don't draft the next John Elway, which would then shut them up. But gentleman, buckle up. If you think we're going to see an offense anywhere near as productive as what Trestman's was in his first year, without Jay, you're in for a huge disappointment. This is going to be a lot of work and will require patience. More than most of us here have.

Ha. And then all the Jay haters here will have someone new to hate... who will VERY likely suck harder than Jay ever did. But if they move him, they move him. Jay hasn't made any believers here in Chicago with his schtick. What an amazing year it's been for football in Chicago and the season is still almost 1/2 year away...

If Kaep was still on his rookie contract I might think about this. But given we'd be trading problem contracts, no thanks. Hell, I think Jay is the more talented of the two with both appearing to be head cases of equal idiocy. Kaep is younger so there's a bit more hope for him, I suppose. If Jay survives the week as a Bear, this season is his last to prove he's capable of producing the numbers his contract demands. Then, if he has a great year, our issue will be that Gase will likely be hired away as a HC because he's the guy who finally got Jay to get his head out of his ass. And then we'll be starting over with Jay's 19th offense or some shit.

That's what I thought.

Don't you only get comp pick for losing a player in free agency? I'm probably wrong but let me know. Can you trade players for value and still get comp picks?

I think what they said matters to you because they're of the same opinion. Look, you posted a long list of distractions he caused and dismissed each one. Hell, you may be right! But doesn't the shear length of the list telling us something? Your comments about ownership meddling are pure conjecture. Do I believe he embarrassed the team and someone wanted him gone? Yes. But I'm guessing just like you. Our coaches and GM came to this decision and I still have faith in them. His skills don't differentiate enough from Alshon. His salary and age are out of whack apparently to Pace. When you add it all up, one of my favorite players these last few years didn't fit well going forward. It sucks but that's life in the NFL.

And Bernstein, who I dislike immensely, said the same things here.

You'd be a fool if you weren't. Damn it man, I'm tired. But you know, when you see a guy like Rocky come in and fix the Blackhawks, it gives you hope.

He's probably an "old 31" too given how he plays. Lot's of wear and tear compared to pussies like TO who ran out of bounds and never took a hit if they could duck under it. Marshall's a warrior and that kills your career later in life.

Pretty irrelevant that the team hasn't lived up to expectations. In all those years I don't recall one positive thing he's had to say. You mean to tell me that in all that time the team hasn't done ANYTHING worthy of a thumbs up? This is a fan's board and trolls aren't tolerated here. The only thing that separates him from being any other troll is that he claims to be a Bears fan although he hates the team and everything it does. It creates all this meta BS on the board that isn't worth a damn. For all I know he could be a Packer's fan in sheep's clothing, just here pretending so he can get a bunch of Bears fans pissed off. I'll move on now because I started this with him today and I'm an idiot for taking the bait. I'll just block him like I used to and that'll be that. Peace.

And here's another reason I'm not crying... Guys, it isn't like we were ONE player away from winning the Superbowl. So, anyone who thinks one move makes or breaks Pace are missing the big picture. Of course, time will tell if Pace's big picture is any better than Angelo's or Emery's but damn it, give him a shot.

If you can rebuild the D, run the ball and have Cutler (or whoever) be serviceable with a couple of decent WR's, you can win enough games to make the playoffs. This year. I'll add they have to completely overhaul ST's too. So, it's a huge undertaking and I think, for what it's worth, you have to at least commend them for having big enough balls to make the moves they feel are needed, regardless of public opinion.

Yeah. He's been a classless peckerhead his entire stay with the Bears. Played great next to #54 but won't even get HOF consideration because of his attitude, etc.

All true. But I'm not as upset as you about the deal. Guess it's mostly because I expected moves from the new regime and this one was telegraphed by many "insiders" for a while. Disappointed in the apparent 5th round pick they got. Not enough. But as with any trade, it'll take a year or two to judge this one. If BM lights it up in NYC and we don't put the cap space and pick to good use, this will go down as a terrible deal. He's been a great player and pretty good role model here. Something he said last year rubbed someone (Virginia?) the wrong way and now he's not a Bear. Hopefully Pace had more reasons for this move than just the old bat being pissed but we'll see. I'm still in the give them the benefit of the doubt mode so I'm going to see what else happens here before getting irate over one move or another.

Crazy year, so far.

A house cleaning would be cutting Cutler and Forte along with a few of the older D guys. I haven't seen enough to say they're blowing it all up but maybe. The rumors about Marshall pissing off management appear to be true, however. Good article here: http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/03/06/ber...t-of-no-return/

Probably use a 3rd on WR or pick someone off the FA market and then use a later pick on WR. If it's a 4th and a 5th I'm OK with this as long as they use the cap savings wisely. At 33 and after last season, Brandon wasn't likely going to be a top ten WR, going forward. And even though he was a solid citizen for the most part with us, you've always got to worry about him doing something really dumb. Now the Jets have that headache.

If you can't root for the Bears (which has basically ALWAYS been the case) then you're on the wrong board. All you do is bitch about every god damn thing. I'm friggen sick of it.

Ha. I do wonder what this means about Cutler's future. They just traded away his #1.

Are you 7 years old? Because if you're older than that you might remember a little more of Brigg's history than that.

Then get the f*ck outta here ya crybaby. I didn't want Marshall traded either but I need to hear the details. Quit whining.

I almost wonder if this was more a reflection on Cutler than any of our WR's. Cutler had developed such a reliance on Marshall that when he was gone, Cutty was lost. I'm on record as wanting Marshall back but if they can clear caps space, get a good pick and find a suitable replacement who fits the new offense, I'll be OK with life after Brandon.

Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out, Lance. You were a helluva player for us but you're an awful human being. I hope you find your way but I'm not banking on it. I see Lance being in jail someday in the near future. I hope I'm wrong.

Probably too old and I'd rather get younger at the DT position. But I just read he's not being picked up by the Pats so figured I'd ask your thoughts. He's big enough for NT, too. But he's also got some character issues.