AZ54 Posted July 24, 2023 Report Share Posted July 24, 2023 ALS is brutal. To kill a bit of time lately I’ve watched some of the 85 Bears games. McMichael gave me one of my favorite memories with this 44-0 win over the Cowboys. The state of Iowa is filled with Cowboy fans. Sitting in a packed den in our dorm at Iowa State were 7 Bears fans from Chicago. One by one the Cowboy fans shut up and then eventually left the room and just 7 finished watching the game. McMichael was a beast in that game. That is how I’ll always remember him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted July 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2023 At 70 , I forget some things temporarily, A bands name, or that football player but I have very defined memories of the day the Bears won in 85. Waśnt it the Dallas game where we took out 3 QBs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 Saw another post elsewhere about Pace and his influence. Meanwhile down in ‘Chicago Bears south’ where Ryan Pace rules as the Falcons GM. Eddie Goldman once again appears to be retiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted July 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2023 Just seen where Danielle Hunter just signed a one year deal to stay in Minnesota.17 guaranteed and potential 20 with incentives. He had a yr left so not sure if this is an added yr or just threw out his current contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted July 30, 2023 Report Share Posted July 30, 2023 28 minutes ago, Stinger226 said: Just seen where Danielle Hunter just signed a one year deal to stay in Minnesota.17 guaranteed and potential 20 with incentives. He had a yr left so not sure if this is an added yr or just threw out his current contract. Over paid. Glad they did that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted July 31, 2023 Report Share Posted July 31, 2023 Who's this idiot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted July 31, 2023 Report Share Posted July 31, 2023 Are we talking about the idiot who put the list together or the one residing on line 8? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted July 31, 2023 Report Share Posted July 31, 2023 27 minutes ago, AZ54 said: Are we talking about the idiot who put the list together or the one residing on line 8? 🤣🤣🤣The idiot that ranked the idiot...😊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted July 31, 2023 Report Share Posted July 31, 2023 6 hours ago, Mongo3451 said: 🤣🤣🤣The idiot that ranked the idiot...😊 I think Mahomes and Co will make #8 look great, but #1 gets me more. I can see detroit being a top 5-8 offense but first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted July 31, 2023 Report Share Posted July 31, 2023 I actually had a little Twitter spat with ole Sam back in the day. They literally cannot backup their PFF grades with actual data, it's comical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted July 31, 2023 Report Share Posted July 31, 2023 12 minutes ago, adam said: I actually had a little Twitter spat with ole Sam back in the day. They literally cannot backup their PFF grades with actual data, it's comical. PFF is worse than stupid. It's a bunch of formulas that dont work, as evidenced by the output they create. And you cant argue with the guys from PFF because they can only tell you what their formulas say.| If I say 2+2=5, you can tell me Im wrong, and show me. If I have an algorithm that says 2+2=5, and you tell me Im wrong, I can say "no its true, thats what the algorithm says" PFF is worse than wrong, it's misleading and ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted August 1, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2023 Dont agree a lot with Sam Monson. Without knowing who the OCs are KC-Philly-Buffalo-Dallas and Detroit had the best offenses last yr. Matt Nagy doesnt call the plays for KC, so how many other OCs are just figure heads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted August 1, 2023 Report Share Posted August 1, 2023 3 hours ago, BearFan PHX said: PFF is worse than stupid. It's a bunch of formulas that dont work, as evidenced by the output they create. And you cant argue with the guys from PFF because they can only tell you what their formulas say.| If I say 2+2=5, you can tell me Im wrong, and show me. If I have an algorithm that says 2+2=5, and you tell me Im wrong, I can say "no its true, thats what the algorithm says" PFF is worse than wrong, it's misleading and ridiculous. It depends how you define the value of 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted August 1, 2023 Report Share Posted August 1, 2023 32 minutes ago, AZ54 said: It depends how you define the value of 5. lol exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted August 1, 2023 Report Share Posted August 1, 2023 7 hours ago, AZ54 said: It depends how you define the value of 5. or it depends on the perspective, are you looking at the 5 from the front or back? Is the 5 at home or away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted August 1, 2023 Report Share Posted August 1, 2023 Steve McMichael has made the top 12 for the NFL Hall of Fame, senior group. Another for will take place in a week or two. I know Halas Hall and the crew at ESPN1000 are pulling all their strings to help him. From his recent picture, he won't be there to give a speech. It sure would be heart warming for him to know before he goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted August 1, 2023 Report Share Posted August 1, 2023 https://quickshare.samsungcloud.com/6L33a9aeVxV8 This is an article from The Athletic. I hope you can open it. It's an expert panel's rankings of NFL QB's. Justin is 21... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted August 1, 2023 Report Share Posted August 1, 2023 21 is not bad at all after the season he had last year. 21 is the sort of position that could increase to 15 or 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted August 1, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2023 Didnt realize that these two OL were so similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted August 1, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Mongo3451 said: https://quickshare.samsungcloud.com/6L33a9aeVxV8 This is an article from The Athletic. I hope you can open it. It's an expert panel's rankings of NFL QB's. Justin is 21... I have an Athletic account. He should be in Tier 2, 10 spots better. I think Watson is ranked to high. He didnt play well last yr. Something he did 3 yrs ago should not give him cudos for ratings with such a bad yr last yr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted August 1, 2023 Report Share Posted August 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Stinger226 said: Didnt realize that these two OL were so similar. That is damn near identical. My guess is Wright has a little more discipline, punch, and tape to be penciled as RT. Jenkins has said earlier he will be ready to move out if needed and I think with experience from last season he can play there with no hiccups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted August 1, 2023 Report Share Posted August 1, 2023 Right, they both measure really well, but it's important to remember that every player is a person, and uses their measurables in different ways, and with differing levels of talent. For a long time we've suffered through the drafting of physical specimens who werent football players. So we all have seen the difference. Finally, thankfully, we do have an organization that prioritizes not only physical traits, but human football players - the kind of thing that's invisible to PFF for example. It goes beyond the stats, and beyond the understanding of sportswriters during draft time who write looking only at stats; how long someone's forearms are for example, instead of who they destroyed repeatedly on tape. So we do clearly see that Poles definitely has a physical type he looks for on the OL. In drafting Wright, and keeping Jenkins. And both are nasty blockers too, so they have HITS attitudes. But they're not really the same level of player. Jenkins could well be a dominating guard, maybe a top 5, but Wright has a ceiling to be a Hall Of Fame Tackle. He is all kinds of special. You see it on tape, not in numbers. Jenkins at his most promising was the 39th overall pick. Wright went 9th. Anyway none of this to take away from Jenkins' ceiling. I believe he could become a very important piece of a dominating offensive line. He could be All Pro. I cant wait to see him blow people up and move them out of the way. But - and I realize it's early - I don't think people really realize yet what we have in Wright. This guy is gonna be a legend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted August 1, 2023 Report Share Posted August 1, 2023 On 7/31/2023 at 2:39 PM, ASHKUM BEAR said: I think Mahomes and Co will make #8 look great, but #1 gets me more. I can see detroit being a top 5-8 offense but first? Curious to see Bienemy move to Washington for the same role. I'm suspecting he did so to come out from the Andy Reid play-calling umbrella to give him more validity as an independent play-caller. Nagy's failure as HC did him no favors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted August 1, 2023 Report Share Posted August 1, 2023 32 minutes ago, Alaskan Grizzly said: Curious to see Bienemy move to Washington for the same role. I'm suspecting he did so to come out from the Andy Reid play-calling umbrella to give him more validity as an independent play-caller. Nagy's failure as HC did him no favors. exactly right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 Saw an interview with Poles and Scott Pioli today. Pioli asked about Wright and scouting process. Poles went on to talk about the workout that he and our OL coach put Wright through was grueling. Toward the end, Wright told Poles, "I'll never f'n quit on you!". Poles said that that gave him goosebumps. I love that shit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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